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Message started by nick3501 on 06/30/13 at 21:37:32

Title: can I run another muffler without touching carb?
Post by nick3501 on 06/30/13 at 21:37:32

bone stock 97 savage, the factory baffle has developed that really irritating whistle and Im ready to get rid of it. Question is, can I get a bolt on pipe like a harley dyna and get away without re-jetting?

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by Serowbot on 06/30/13 at 22:27:32

If you keep the stock air filter,... you can probably get by with a full baffled, stock Harley shorty...
It will sound great, save you 10lbs of ugly fat, and make you irresistible to women...
It won't give the same performance gain, as adding a filter and doing a rejet...
You can't have everything.... unless you do everything... ;)...

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by savagerider87 on 08/03/13 at 21:18:25

I run a HD sporty slip on on mine and didnt rejet... it turns heads and sets a few car alarms off from time to time :)

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by raydawg on 08/03/13 at 21:36:13

3E283F223A2F22394D0 wrote:

Ok, what is a sporty? I am about ready to get rid of my stock, but I don't want all the other stuff........... yet. :P

PS: a link w/ pictures, etc will win you extra cookies ( to eat while reading post in the TT board :-* )

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by savagerider87 on 08/03/13 at 21:51:31

6B78607D786E7E190 wrote:

[quote author=3E283F223A2F22394D0 link=1372653453/0#1 date=1372656452]If you keep the stock air filter,... you can probably get by with a full baffled, stock Harley shorty...
It will sound great, save you 10lbs of ugly fat, and make you irresistible to women...
It won't give the same performance gain, as adding a filter and doing a rejet...
You can't have everything.... unless you do everything... ;)...

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by ToesNose on 08/04/13 at 11:01:25

I swapped out for a HD Dyna muffler and didn't have to rejet. I don't know if having a longer exhaust had anything to do with it or not, I did wind up doing the spacer mod which made things smoother but didn't touch the jets at all.

I'm so happy with the sound and feel of the bike now. :D

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by paulmarshall on 08/04/13 at 12:44:55

I put on a after market muffler without touching the carb. It worked just fine. ;)

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by raydawg on 08/04/13 at 12:53:05

Where/what exact muffler did you guys get? Thanks :)

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by paulmarshall on 08/04/13 at 12:56:03

Mine was custom made here in NZ.

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by Steve H on 08/04/13 at 13:12:11

Mine has Harley Dyna muffler. No carb jetting.

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by apache snow on 08/04/13 at 13:17:09

I am running a Harley Dyna muffler, part# 65747-94.

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by raydawg on 08/04/13 at 19:55:45

776677757E7365787961160 wrote:

I am running a Harley Dyna muffler, part# 65747-94.

These?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1995-Harley-Davidson-Dyna-Glide-Screamin-Eagle-Muffler-Set/190878479053?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D344068824467812872%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D190878479053%26

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by ylwf3vr on 08/04/13 at 20:03:04

Someone told me that stock Harley mufflers are fairly quiet. That harley owners take them off immediately and replace with aftermarket. I'm sure they're louder than our stock but is it that noticeable?

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/04/13 at 20:04:43

yep,, goes from a whispering whistle to a rumble,

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by savagerider87 on 08/04/13 at 20:17:00

im gonna recommend a Jardine,... they are LOUD id probably say louder than a dyna. they run about $175 from dennis kirk, im switching to that over the winter. i got a lot of flack from the harley camp bc my sporty pipe has " Harley Davidson" stamped into it... you might wanna keep your stocker handy for state inspection though depending on if your state has noise decible laws. I know here in new york the cops dont really bother the few people i know that have them, just a suggestion though ;)

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/04/13 at 20:33:21

i got a lot of flack from the harley camp bc my sporty pipe has " Harley Davidson" stamped into it.

Really? Phhhht,, Who cares?
Before you dump that $$$ into a Jardine, understand you will be jetting & its not as easy to jet for that pipe.,drop 20 bux, slap a dyna on. no one will hate you for the noise,

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by savagerider87 on 08/04/13 at 20:41:20

37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:

oh i forgot to mention i renamed the Harley Owners Group the Haters Only Group... i cant help it if theyre jealous of the fact that their overpriced bling sounds better on a 27 year old thumper than an '07 Fatboy ;D

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by ToesNose on 08/05/13 at 04:27:45

6F7D6A7D7B796E7578796E242B1C0 wrote:

im gonna recommend a Jardine,...

But he doesn't want to touch the carb :D

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by savagerider87 on 08/05/13 at 08:06:55

6259534578594553360 wrote:

[quote author=6F7D6A7D7B796E7578796E242B1C0 link=1372653453/0#14 date=1375672620]im gonna recommend a Jardine,...

never said i wouldnt i havent had to w the hd pipe but im not gonna rule it out w the jardine rejetting is a given with them, i aint skeered :)

But he doesn't want to touch the carb :D[/quote]

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by Boofer on 08/05/13 at 18:21:49

30373D356D6B6E6F5E0 wrote:

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by raydawg on 08/05/13 at 20:30:49

0A27272E2D3A480 wrote:

[quote author=30373D356D6B6E6F5E0 link=1372653453/0#0 date=1372653452]bone stock 97 savage, the factory baffle has developed that really irritating whistle and Im ready to get rid of it. Question is, can I get a bolt on pipe like a harley dyna and get away without re-jetting?

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by Dave on 08/06/13 at 05:19:57

70637B66637565020 wrote:

[quote author=0A27272E2D3A480 link=1372653453/15#19 date=1375752109][quote author=30373D356D6B6E6F5E0 link=1372653453/0#0 date=1372653452]bone stock 97 savage, the factory baffle has developed that really irritating whistle and Im ready to get rid of it. Question is, can I get a bolt on pipe like a harley dyna and get away without re-jetting?

Yes. HARFXS1584 #65842-07 Bolts on in one hour total with no special adapter or clamp. Uses stock muffler bracket. Serowbot posted photos in Technical Forum under mufflers. BTW, they fit Night Train. Mine was $30. Boofer :)[/quote]

Thank you....all I can find is stuff costing over a 100 bucks and beyond, I thought everybody was in on the conspiracy to make me appear fool :-[

PS: I doan need no help with that, I manage quite nicely on my own....... [/quote]

Here is one for $ 40.49 and free shipping. If you watch eBay you can find these for $ 30 - $ 40 that are in great shape.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Davidson-FXD-1340-1450-Dyna-Glide-Exhaust-Pipe-Muffler-65747-94-/130829620316?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e760d945c&vxp=mtr

If you put a free add in Craigslist that you are looking for DYNA mufflers you might find something. I had a guy contact me and would sell me his for $ 15 each.

I personally think the fitment is better with an angle adapter like the one you can buy from RYCA.
http://shop.rycamotors.com/exhaust_adapter.html

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by Boofer on 08/06/13 at 18:16:05

Dave, I agree with you on your muffler, but mine bolts straight on with no offset. The only work is to grind off the front threaded screw boss so the back can snug close to the stock muffler bracket. I went to a guy who works on HDs out of his garage. His wife took me to a PILE of mufflers and wouldn't quit looking until I had one that was perfect. Stock clamp, 1/4-20 bolt, and a JC Whitney heat guard to cover the ugly joint. I used two wraps of a Dr Pepper can as a gasket and did not cut slots in the muffler. I'll look for a photo, but I hate it. Not good at pics. >:(

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by Boofer on 08/06/13 at 18:30:37

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/Boofer56/DSCF0016.jpg

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by Boofer on 08/06/13 at 18:34:01

Not a close up, but my close ups were too close. This muffler is not loud. Hope this helps you. I turned my "sealed off" screw a little. No problems in around 10,000 miles. :)

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by EJID on 08/06/13 at 18:37:12

Harley Muffler Guide (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1298689417)

You're welcome ;D

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by JRLeathercraft on 08/06/13 at 19:17:16

Thanks for the info fellas.

I was getting ready to ask the same question.
Just made an offer on ebay for one.

I didn't realize you could change out just the end piece of the muffler, I thought you have to change the entire pipe.

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by JRLeathercraft on 08/06/13 at 21:10:45

5948595B505D4B56574F380 wrote:

I am running a Harley Dyna muffler, part# 65747-94.

Did you have to make any type of gasket / fitting to make the dyna fit
The pipe or did the diameters match?

Jay

Title: Re: can I run another muffler without touching ca
Post by stinger on 08/07/13 at 02:12:17

The supertrapp needs no rejetting unless you run more than 8 discs. But unless you find one on Ebay used expect to pump out $300 or more! Great muffler with a deep throaty sound and a increase in performance but they are expensive.

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Post by stinger on 08/07/13 at 02:13:41

By the way, I read where Supertrapp bought out the Jardine line of mufflers

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Post by Dave on 08/07/13 at 04:25:58

383330332533393B520 wrote:

[quote author=5948595B505D4B56574F380 link=1372653453/0#10 date=1375647429]I am running a Harley Dyna muffler, part# 65747-94.

Did you have to make any type of gasket / fitting to make the dyna fit
The pipe or did the diameters match?

Jay [/quote]

Here is a link to the Serowbot method and guide to Harley Mufflers:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1298689417

Here is a link to the ApacheSnow installation using the RYCA adapter:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1371219392