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Message started by Digger on 06/25/13 at 20:27:23

Title: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Digger on 06/25/13 at 20:27:23

Do y'all remember a few years back when Lancer spearheaded a group buy of special cam chains, made by Morse?

I bought one from a board member here recently and it arrived today.

A few questions:

1. Has anyone been using the Morse cam chain long enough to see if the stretch is lessened in comparison to the OEM chain?

2. I (think I) remember reading that the Lancer cam chain would have the letter "M" embossed on its links.  I can see no such letters on mine.  Are the Lancer cam chains indeed devoid of any markings?

TIA!

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by LANCER on 06/25/13 at 22:15:12

I don't recall any markings on the chain Digger, but it has been many moons, and it would make sense.
Since they were made by Morse it would not surprise me if it may have been there on some of the orders.

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Serowbot on 06/25/13 at 23:07:55

I bought mine,.. way back... but, haven't installed it yet...
I'm on the second notch of my Versy tensioner...
Don't know if I'll ever actually need it, but... next time I'm in there, I'll probably install it...
If I can remember,.. I'll look for a "M" tomorrow...

..(If I forget,.. send me a PM, to give me a jumpstart)... :-?...

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/13 at 22:17:36

soak in oil a few hours before install

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by verslagen1 on 06/26/13 at 23:00:47

The 1st lot had and "M"

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Digger on 07/02/13 at 20:07:57


6F7C6B6A75787E7C7728190 wrote:
The 1st lot had and "M"


Were there several batches?  Did at least one of the later batches not have the "M" on the links?

I'm asking all of these questions because, if, for some reason, I don't end up using the cam chain I just purchased, I'd like to know a few details about it for when I go to sell it.

TIA!

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by verslagen1 on 07/02/13 at 20:29:15

yep, there was 2 batches.

I used 1 out of the 1st batch, somewhere I have another.

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Oldfeller on 07/03/13 at 06:52:27


The original 2 lots of super chain were built by Morse's subsidiary located in Japan and it had the Morse markings.  The very last on (the third lot) was done by Lancer and Verslagen and I didn't see any of them.

Way back then we were at the cusp of the Chinese cam chain suppliers taking over the market and we intentionally AVOIDED any chance of getting any of those chains.

I don't think you have the luxury of avoiding Chinese cam chain any more, they have run off the Japanese and Morse hasn't built a chain in America since way before when we bought the first two lots.

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by mjs3790225 on 07/07/13 at 12:17:36

So in today's day and market, who should I be looking towards for a good quality replacement chain? I'm getting close to that time.  :-?

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Digger on 08/12/13 at 19:48:02


5C4A5D40584D405B2F0 wrote:
I bought mine,.. way back... but, haven't installed it yet...
I'm on the second notch of my Versy tensioner...
Don't know if I'll ever actually need it, but... next time I'm in there, I'll probably install it...
If I can remember,.. I'll look for a "M" tomorrow...

..(If I forget,.. send me a PM, to give me a jumpstart)... :-?...


Gentle bump for Serow.....

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by WD on 08/12/13 at 20:31:16


50574E0E0A040D0F0F083D0 wrote:
So in today's day and market, who should I be looking towards for a good quality replacement chain? I'm getting close to that time.  :-?


Tsubaki, bulk cam chain. You'll need to get the specs from Lancer, Verslagen or Oldfeller. Hard to find, worth every cent.

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Serowbot on 08/12/13 at 22:14:14

Terribly sorry, Digger.... I completely forgot...
I see M's on about 30% of links,... not consistently... (probably stamped on one side of each plate)...
I think this one came from Lancer,.. but can't be 100% sure...

They show faintly in this pic...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/IMG_0148_zpse5e9da56.jpg

Apologies again for forgetting... (you're supposed to kick my Azz to remind me)... I'm like a dumb mule...
;D ;D ;D...

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by LANCER on 08/13/13 at 04:38:49

I found the file on the cam chain orders burried in a parts box in the barn/shop, so if there is significant interest in trying to get more chains then the feelers can be sent out to see if it is still possible, and at what cost.

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by SteveIsGr8 on 08/13/13 at 07:33:56

I'd be interested in one, but I'd need to know the price before I would commit.

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Coaxial on 08/13/13 at 09:01:36

I also have interest

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Digger on 08/19/13 at 20:44:40


3026312C34212C37430 wrote:
Terribly sorry, Digger.... I completely forgot...
I see M's on about 30% of links,... not consistently... (probably stamped on one side of each plate)...
I think this one came from Lancer,.. but can't be 100% sure...

They show faintly in this pic...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/IMG_0148_zpse5e9da56.jpg

Apologies again for forgetting... (you're supposed to kick my Azz to remind me)... I'm like a dumb mule...
;D ;D ;D...



Thanks, Serow!

You inspired me to take a closer look at the chain I bought (see OP).  Indeed, said chain shows an embossed "M" on some of the side plates.

All is well in Mudville.....

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/13 at 17:39:55

naturally,mine had w's on it..

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by Super Thumper on 08/22/13 at 16:55:10

Count me in as well.

Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by mjs3790225 on 08/22/13 at 17:13:32


091A5E0 wrote:
[quote author=50574E0E0A040D0F0F083D0 link=1372217244/0#8 date=1373224656]So in today's day and market, who should I be looking towards for a good quality replacement chain? I'm getting close to that time.  :-?


Tsubaki, bulk cam chain. You'll need to get the specs from Lancer, Verslagen or Oldfeller. Hard to find, worth every cent.
[/quote]

Thank you!

And yes, would def be interested in seeing a new batch of the Morse chains.



Title: Re: Lancer's Super Cam Chain Questions
Post by LANCER on 08/23/13 at 07:50:23


5D4244435E5968586850424E05370 wrote:
naturally,mine had w's on it..


JOG, you're just Special  ;D  ;D  ;D

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