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Message started by shovelbum87 on 06/17/13 at 16:44:12

Title: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a noob?
Post by shovelbum87 on 06/17/13 at 16:44:12

I was just wondering? How many miles do you feel you need under your belt before you consider someone a noob?

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by gizzo on 06/17/13 at 16:51:08

Haha it depends on how they ride. Some riders are noobs for life.

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by shovelbum87 on 06/17/13 at 16:57:47

I will agree to that! Ive seen guys that have had bikes for many years that I look at and think "oh hello no! I aint getting on that or ridning anywhere near your sketchy rearend"

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by LANCER on 06/17/13 at 17:33:46


6F74736A79707E6971242B1C0 wrote:
I will agree to that! Ive seen guys that have had bikes for many years that I look at and think "oh hello no! I aint getting on that or ridning anywhere near your sketchy rearend"


Well, see there, you already knew the answer to the question you asked ... it all depends on the look of the "sketchy rearend".   ;D   8-)

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by apache snow on 06/17/13 at 17:43:53

I suppose when you figure what a biker is. :)

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by pgambr on 06/17/13 at 17:55:08

It took me alot longer than I will admit too.  My grand dad used to say, "you can learn something new everyday and still die dumb."  

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by Serowbot on 06/17/13 at 18:02:21

Hmmmmm...

Okay,... 100 point system...
1 point for every 100 miles...
10 points for each roadside breakdown...
5 for each oil change, valve adjust, brake replacement, etc...
10 for crashing,  7 for a slow dump...
-5 for each time you forget to put the kickstand up or down, and the bike falls over... or dropping it while checking the oil...  ;D...
-5 for running out of gas...
-5 for leaving your keys in the bike... (guilty)... :-?...
-20 if you post asking why it won't start,. and it turns out you left the sidestand down, didn't pull in the clutch, or left the kill switch down... (but only if you post it)...
oh!.. and +10 points for every 100 posts here at SS.Com... ;)...

... a few members may actually be in the negative...
You know who you are.... :-[...



Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by engineer on 06/17/13 at 18:03:02

That is a good question and I think Gizzo is right, it's how you ride.  I was a darn good rider in the late fifties and through the sixties and early seventies.  Then I quit riding until a couple years ago and I am no longer a good rider.  I feel clumsy and inconsistent.  

When we are young we learn fast and have fast reflexes and we are also fearless because we don't know any better.  In the sixties I rode many different bikes on all types of surfaces and was always pushing the limits.  I think that improved my skill level.

During these last two years as a re-entry rider I've just been putt-putt- putting along at the same pace over the same good roads.  I won't get better doing that.  Practice makes perfect only when the practice is structured to constantly push you to a higher level.  So this summer I decided to try some new techniques on some more challenging roads and each week I push on my comfort zone.  There is improvement but it is slow going probably due to age but I am getting smoother again.

So hours alone will not make for improvements.

Title: Re: How many miles d ya think before you're not a
Post by apache snow on 06/17/13 at 18:25:32

Yeah, I no longer ride with reckless abandon as I did in the 60s and 70s. 8-)

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by Dave on 06/17/13 at 18:33:37

I passed through my Noob stage in 1970, progressed to being experienced, and am now proceeding on to being forgetful and cantankerous!

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by Charon on 06/17/13 at 18:37:58

My father used to say something to the effect that there is a difference between ten years of experience and one year's experience repeated ten times.

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by old_rider on 06/17/13 at 18:45:47

LOL, after this past week, I still have some NOOB in me too.... I dumped the wifes bike turning into a parking lot at about 10mph (lots of loose gravel), was looking into the lot and not at the ground before I turned.
I was too sure of my abilities...let down my guard...experianced riders never let down thier guard, guess i'm getiing old and cantakerous too  ;D

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by oldNslow on 06/17/13 at 19:12:21

I think I need a definition check.

Newb - a beginner, but someone who has the potential to learn and get better. Not meant as a derogatory term.

Noob - a beginner, but one who will never get better due to being stupid, unwilling to learn, or just generaly incompetent. Usually meant as a derogatory term.

Or are the terms interchangeable?


Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by Borracho on 06/17/13 at 20:52:27

Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a noob?

5000+ miles

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by verslagen1 on 06/17/13 at 21:00:12

riding and doing all your maintenance.
battery clean/fill
oil change
carb clean/rejet
sparky

tire change (you take wheels off, shop can change them)

You do all that and you definitely not a newb.

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by old_rider on 06/18/13 at 05:43:48

OK, then lets add a new catagory then
Nube- an older rider that falls back into newb practices.....
How's that? LOL, I know I fall into that catagory  ;D

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by wambr on 06/18/13 at 09:38:21


445E5A585967564543455E535052370 wrote:
Haha it depends on how they ride. Some riders are noobs for life.

I agree..

and like I don't feel myself as a newbie in the saddle, each time after a long Russian winter falls a couple of weeks and remember all the skills.

Title: Re: How many miles d ya thnk before youre not a no
Post by shovelbum87 on 06/18/13 at 15:00:07

I never thought of the NEWB vs NOOB I guess it could mean different things. Basically I was just curious what everyones opinion was. I personally only have around 5k miles under my belt but I dont feel like a newb anymore. I guess maybe it does have something to do with how much you work on your bike, and how you ride. I spend more time playing with mine than I do riding it lately! Its just because in NH it seems like it only rains when my bike is ready! haha

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