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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Had the Savage dyno'd today /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1370726678 Message started by Greg on 06/08/13 at 14:24:35 |
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Title: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Greg on 06/08/13 at 14:24:35 A local repair/speed shop was having a grand opening kinda thing and had the dyno plus print out for $30 plus a discount if you bought anything. I was thrilled to see that I didn't hurt my bike's performance with all the screwing around I did! I have the print out for HP, torque, and air-fuel ratio. They are supposed to be emailing me a copy later today. For now, I will post the scans. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Greg on 06/08/13 at 14:52:58 And my bike on the dyno. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by paulmarshall on 06/08/13 at 16:20:20 Is your bike stock? I cant read those charts. Can someone tell me in laymans terms what that chart says? |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Greg on 06/08/13 at 16:30:49 My bike has a K&N drop in air filter, a NOS HD fishtail muffler, and the carb was rejetted. The top chart shows a max of 31hp and 43 ft-lbs torque. Since the torque has a weird peak at an ungodly high RPM, I would say the real number is around 35 ft-lbs. The line that starts high and goes down is torque. The other is horsepower. The second chart is the air to fuel ratio. The dashed line is optimum. The middle line is the AFR and the top line is the hp overlay. My line is on the lean side of optimum. It isn't bad though. It leans out more at higher rpm and upper highway speeds. I don't know if I am going to worry about it or not. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by paulmarshall on 06/08/13 at 16:42:36 Thats really interesting thanks. :) |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by verslagen1 on 06/08/13 at 17:33:55 You're between 14 and 13, optimum is 14.5 I'd say you're perfect. How's the gas mileage? |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Greg on 06/08/13 at 18:35:02 Depending on how hard I beat it, it is usually between 48 and 52mpg. Even the lesser beating is nothing like driving old lady style. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Serowbot on 06/08/13 at 18:36:17 5E4D5A5B44494F4D4619280 wrote:
..just the way you are... (should be sung)... :-/... Good numbers, all 'round... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/13 at 19:53:49 Okasy you smart guys,, HP & Torque meet at 70 MPH,, what does that mean? He can run 70 & get good MPG? |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Serowbot on 06/08/13 at 21:17:56 Torque/HP always meet at 5250 rpm... that's how it's calculated... I guess that is 70mph in top gear... (don't know why some Dyno's measure in Mph instead of Rpm's)... It don't mean best mpg... I've gotten my best mpg at 35 to 45mph... mostly in 4th gear... on my Mt rides... (in the 70 mpg range, averaging both the climb and descent)... |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by LANCER on 06/09/13 at 05:34:10 Very nice numbers for sure. What jets and needle setting and pilot screw turns are you running ? |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Charon on 06/09/13 at 06:22:34 It is easier to measure in MPH than to measure RPM, since the dyno "knows" how fast its drum is turning and doesn't have to care about gearing. Nor does there have to be any connection to the ignition system to measure MPH. Air/Fuel ratios look pretty decent, except that they are only measured at wide-open throttle. That tells you the main jet is probably OK, along with air intake and plumbing. It tells you nothing about mid-range or pilot, since unless you make dyno runs at part-throttle those ranges are not checked. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Greg on 06/09/13 at 10:11:20 6C616E6365723237000 wrote:
I am not sure anymore. I believe I am running a 52.5 pilot and a 152.5 main jet. I didn't do the white spacer mod. Turns out on the screw? Your guess is as good as mine. I was fine tuning it last fall when the head stripped. I bought a new screw but never got it installed. I believe I started at 2.5 turns but don't know where I ended up. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Serowbot on 06/09/13 at 10:14:50 Grease monkeys in pink jumpsuits?... clearly not the Harley dealer... :-?... ;D ;D ;D... |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Jiggyfly on 06/10/13 at 23:25:36 thirty one horsepower?! Holy crap. I had a 138cc air-cooled single that made 19! |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by paulmarshall on 06/10/13 at 23:50:19 50737D7D637C76631A0 wrote:
I know sad eh. embarrassing really. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by paulmarshall on 06/10/13 at 23:52:27 But I am convinced that the Savage engine is a diamond in the rough. Will never be a crown jewel but can be polished up to shine. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Jiggyfly on 06/11/13 at 01:07:28 I dunno how much of a "gem" it is......but I need one! LOL |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/13 at 02:19:20 When I was about 16 I saw a hot rod magazine that had an article in it about a lawnmower motor someone had hopped up. Started with a 3.5 horse & massaged it into a 30 HP lump. ( Thats IF I remember 42 years ago as well as I think I do. It was memorable because it was so amazing) |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Jiggyfly on 06/11/13 at 07:32:39 I doubt it was 30hp, unless it had some variety of forced induction..... If so, then more is possible out of a savage engine......as it is a glorified lawn mower engine. The max hp per displacement theory suggests that 65hp is possible. (100hp per 1000cc)....but this rule is blown out of the water with modern technology & high rpm motors...... None-the-less......31 hp is a low number. Alas, remember, that every dyno is different. A gsxr 1000 might only make 125 hp on that one,?& it's a suggectibe number that should be used to measure performance changes. I.e- make an exhaust or ignition change & now if produces 34 hp, you know it was a positive change. That same bike might make 55hp on a dyno in Iowa. It's just a number. (but a low one!!!!! LOL) :P |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/13 at 08:05:19 Well,, 30 HP Is a lot & I dont think it had more than a fancy rod & high comp piston & head & valve work. And, lets not forget,, Odds are, way back then, it was a flathead design.I just remember seeing a HP number on what Had been a 3.5 HP lawnmower motor & going Wow! I gotta check that OUT! I Thot it was 30,, but, w/o a blower or nitrous & a stopwatch, to keep up with how Long it survived putting that kinda power out,, well,, who knows? Ehh? |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Bubba on 06/11/13 at 08:05:23 paulmarshall...when ya gonna get your 97mm piston dyno'd? It would be cool to see what you gained...then get the new carb...see what you gained...then get the performance cam...see what you gained...you get the idea. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Serowbot on 06/11/13 at 09:12:38 Big why?... ... a basset hound ain't gonna' be a sled dog no matter what you feed it... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/13 at 09:14:52 a basset hound ain't gonna' be a sled dog no matter what you feed it... Now thats some down home, COUNtry wisdom! |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Bubba on 06/11/13 at 09:47:17 I suppose out of curiosity...but , of course, it's not my money either... ;D |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Jiggyfly on 06/11/13 at 11:26:07 But that's what men do, & what motorcycles are for...... To waste piles upon piles of money turning Bassett hounds into sled dogs.... |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/13 at 11:42:51 53707E7E607F7560190 wrote:
To waste piles upon piles of money trying to turn Bassett hounds into sled dogs. There,, fixed it for ya. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by paulmarshall on 06/11/13 at 13:53:21 586F78787B2B2A22291A0 wrote:
Yes Bubba thats exactly what I plan to do as soon as I break her in. Not clocking up a lot at the moment due to poor weather. How does the Dyno work? Do they need to rev the daylights out of our bikes to get accurate readings? If so I want to wait till I have done a 1000km.Open for suggestions. My next upgrade will be a Flat slide carb and Dyno it again. I am happy to be a Guinea Pig by doing the upgrades and running the tests and getting numbers on paper. |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by Bubba on 06/11/13 at 14:02:08 Yea! I'm not sure how the dyno's work and if they red-line them to see whatcha' got... I was on the verge of going all in last year with Lancers performance package...Cam, Jug, Carb...but second guessed myself because I wasn't sure of the performance gains... That, and the suspension upgrades, clutch upgrades etc...not to mention the rider upgrades... ;D |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/13 at 14:07:17 I dont think anyone has shown a need to upgrade the clutch to "hang on" to the max this engine can put out. What we have seen, however, is a few busted clutch throwouts,, & That, Muh Friend, can be a Dead Engine event.. So,, I dont suggest stouter springs or shimmed springs unless the clutch simply can handle the power., |
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Title: Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Post by paulmarshall on 06/11/13 at 14:16:03 I thought I had a clutch problem but it turned out a little adjustment cleared that right up. |
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