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Message started by paulmarshall on 06/06/13 at 14:52:00

Title: Oil Cooler
Post by paulmarshall on 06/06/13 at 14:52:00

Has anyone fitted a oil cooler to a Savage?
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1151246239

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/06/13 at 15:17:05

I've finally collected all the parts to put it together.
Now I'm watching my temps and waiting.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1361141824

http://www.trailtech.net/media/press_releases/tto/72-ET1_sensor_w340.jpg

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by paulmarshall on 06/06/13 at 15:22:35

So you have one up and running now ?
I am mad enough to take up the challenge too.
Before I venture into another hair brain scheme I want to gather info.
Radiator size.
Where to mount Radiator.
Is there enough oil pressure to pump through a Radiator.
etc etc etc

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/06/13 at 15:38:54

Head temps currently only bordering on 300°F at the head bolt next to sparky.
Oil temp measured at front pressure tap has hit 218°F
And air temps have only broken 100°F a few times... in the afternoon. ('bot you're screwed) ;D
the banjo fitting for the M14 is a b!tch to find.
FN odd ball size. finally found one off a triumph ;D
The M12 is easy, off a subaru.
Oil cooler is from a SV650.
Intending to mount it between the front pegs. More or less neutral to oil level.

Because the ports are dead headed on the oil path, initially I don't intend to block the transfer port and depend on incipant flow. But I may reduce that port to get more flow thru the cooler.

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by apache snow on 06/06/13 at 15:41:02

Heres a really small one. These types can also be picked up in junk yards as they were used to cool power steering pumps on autos.

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/740-502?utm_source=PLAs&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CKOW9tW-0LcCFQHl7AodbEEAqQ

This one is a little larger. I actually had one like this on a Harley pan head.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/140976557119?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

Lots more ideas.

http://www.google.com/search?q=suzuki+oil+cooler&sa=X&rlz=1T4GZAG_enUS439US440&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=2w-xUd30DYSwyQHShoGgBA&ved=0CFIQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=486

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by paulmarshall on 06/06/13 at 15:52:33

Yes yes yes
You guys are great. :)
I have a sneaky feeling I'm gonna need something particularly as I will be running hotter than most with the 97mm.
Even tho days here are sunny, the temp is cooler due to our winter.This is helping keep the engine temp down, Plus I am taking it easy while I run it in. But next summer is going to be a different storey.
Any advice is welcome.

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by jcstokes on 06/06/13 at 16:35:54

Paul the JP cycles one would be $NZ 50-55 depending on pay pals crap exchange rate, plus freight.

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/13 at 16:52:37

A cooler is a Win/Win. You gain volume and it stays cooler.

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by verslagen1 on 06/06/13 at 17:00:38

Get a couple of these...
http://www.trailtech.net/media/press_releases/tto/72-ET1_sensor_w340.jpg
then you'll know what your temps are.

Put one on a head bolt, or sparky is an alternate, but a little harder to do, as you need to do a little machining to clear a little space for it. M14

and put another on the front oil pressure port. M12

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by paulmarshall on 06/06/13 at 17:44:19

7F6C7B7A65686E6C6738090 wrote:

Yes they are good I have something similar.

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by paulmarshall on 06/06/13 at 17:50:07

5F5646415A5E5046350 wrote:

Paul the JP cycles one would be $NZ 50-55 depending on pay pals crap exchange rate, plus freight.

There is a lot to choose from on that site. :o
They have even got oil cooler floor boards. ;D

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by Dave on 06/07/13 at 14:05:35

If any of you do decide to mount an oil cooler - I think it would be wise to have a thermostat or manual valve to control the flow through the cooler. As the oil is cooled it becomes thicker and harder to pump, and at some point if you are riding in cold weather you don't want your oil to be that cold. There will be some flow restriction added from the extra length of tubing and surface area of the cooler, and this friction loss could be significant if the temperature is really cold. This would not be an issue if you install the cooler as a "bypass" cooler - but could be if it was installed as a full flow cooler.

The amount of supplemental cooling you need at 70 mph and 90 degrees is much different than at 50 mph and 50 degrees, and the oil cooler system should be designed to know the difference. Most factory installed oil coolers are regulated by a thermostat.

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by paulmarshall on 06/07/13 at 14:35:30

09323F2839352E28333B36295A0 wrote:

A good valid point.
Some sort of manual gate valve at a bare minimum. Or a thermostat with a electronic shut off valve.
Dave do you think this is necessary in areas that have a mild climate? Because I was going to set up a continues flow.

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/13 at 17:04:14

Thats a very good point,,

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by Gentlemanjim on 06/15/13 at 00:41:05

So how is the plumbing connected for the cooler?

Title: Re: Oil Cooler
Post by raydawg on 06/15/13 at 07:53:27

Can you put a stronger sump in?