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Title: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Routy on 06/06/13 at 06:50:38 Anybody know a better deal out there lately ? http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/sYTX14AHL-BS.html I posted this a couple days ago, where'd it go ? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/13 at 08:33:57 AGM? $66.00?? Man,, if theres any "Eye toward quality" in the production, then thats a great deal.. Theres the only way to deal with a Scorpion & not get stung. Good find & thanks for sharing. Hopefully someone will take a run at it & see if its worth a hoot.. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Serowbot on 06/06/13 at 08:44:53 I just got a Bikemaster sealed for the same price local... It seems to be about as good as it gets.... I bought from batterystuff several years ago for my xt225... it was a good battery... |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by clearush on 06/06/13 at 18:19:41 I prefer getting the ebay ones that come with the acid packs so I can activate the battery myself to get maximum lifespan out of it. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Routy on 06/06/13 at 19:47:31 I think I bettered my own deal. I just ordered this one,....hard to beat this price....AGM free ship http://www.ebay.com/itm/YTX14AHL-BS-Motorcycle-Battery-for-SUZUKI-LS650-Savage-S40-650CC-86-08-/290890950938?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43ba73a91a&vxp=mtr |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Dj12midnit on 06/06/13 at 20:09:26 222D242033343229410 wrote:
There is no acid it is a dry cell. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Routy on 06/07/13 at 04:30:30 727C27247B7F72787F62160 wrote:
There is no acid it is a dry cell. [/quote] If you talking AGM (absorbed glass mat) it is an SLA (sealed lead acid) battery. The acid is absorbed into a mat that is placed all thru out the battery. (I sawed one in 1/2, reason I know) AGM lead acid batteries are available where the acid comes separate which you install yourself, and then seal it yourself, never to be added to again. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Dave on 06/07/13 at 04:55:17 If you do buy an AGM battery and it comes with the acid seperate, you must carefully charge it before using it. I bought a battery from my local dealer last year, dumped the acid pack in....it was pretty cool as the acid pack had 6 pre-measured plastic viials that you used to fill the battery without mess or measuring. Then the instructions told you to charge it prior to use...which I did.....but I believe the charger I used was a 5 amp charger. The battery only lasted 2 weeks and then failed to start the bike or hold a charge. I got a replacement under warranty, and then used a 1.5 amp charger.....and that battery worked fine. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Super Thumper on 06/07/13 at 17:40:05 Dave is correct about charging these AGM batteries...the one I just put in a customer's bike specified a 1.6 amp charger MAX or battery damage will result. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Serowbot on 06/07/13 at 18:58:39 726C65696768746F6E000 wrote:
For how many hours?... |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by clearush on 06/07/13 at 20:34:58 Yup I put my float charger on it for 2 or 3 days before I got around to installing and its been going great since then ;D But that's just for the initial charge up, I imagine 24 hours would have been enough. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Digger on 06/07/13 at 21:02:51 3E283F223A2F22394D0 wrote:
For how many hours?...[/quote] Serow, I like to initially hit a new battery with a charging current equal in amps to 1/10 of the battery's Ah rating. I keep this going until the voltage needed to push that current reaches about 14.5 (note that the voltage needed to push the desired amperage will rise slowly as the battery takes a charge). At that point, I then maintain a more or less constant charging voltage of about 14.5. I keep this going such that the total duration of the entire initialization procedure lasts somewhere between 10 and 24 hours. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Serowbot on 06/07/13 at 21:29:05 Thanks... I always got batteries charged... (as far as I know)... This one was fresh... newly added acid... I put it on 1amp charge at 7pm... I should be safe, overnight... seems like that will get me to the ball park... Main thing,... don't try to fast charge, not at above 10% amperage... and give it time... Sounds like good basic advice for a battery anytime... but, I guess, particularly on initial charge... Right?... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Digger on 06/08/13 at 18:32:18 3523342931242932460 wrote:
Well, the battery manufacturers claim that you can blast a battery with big amperage for relatively short periods of time during initialization - just make sure that the battery doesn't get too hot. I don't like doing it that way, however. Makes me nervous..... |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/13 at 20:26:02 163B35353720520 wrote:
For how many hours?...[/quote] Serow, I like to initially hit a new battery with a charging current equal in amps to 1/10 of the battery's Ah rating. I keep this going until the voltage needed to push that current reaches about 14.5 (note that the voltage needed to push the desired amperage will rise slowly as the battery takes a charge). At that point, I then maintain a more or less constant charging voltage of about 14.5. I keep this going such that the total duration of the entire initialization procedure lasts somewhere between 10 and 24 hours. [/quote] Thats an interesting approach. Makes sense, I Number A: Hope I can remember it & Letter 2: Hope I have a charger that will do those things.. |
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Title: UPDATE Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Routy on 06/11/13 at 05:35:33 7F706A716D6B787A727C6B190 wrote:
I received this battery yesterday. It came in record time It was fully charged, and standing at 13.2 volts I hung a load test on it, and it held the same voltage as a large automotive battery. I was impressed. Seems to me a super great deal on an AGM battery,.....if anyone is interested. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Digger on 06/11/13 at 19:09:27 2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
For how many hours?...[/quote] Serow, I like to initially hit a new battery with a charging current equal in amps to 1/10 of the battery's Ah rating. I keep this going until the voltage needed to push that current reaches about 14.5 (note that the voltage needed to push the desired amperage will rise slowly as the battery takes a charge). At that point, I then maintain a more or less constant charging voltage of about 14.5. I keep this going such that the total duration of the entire initialization procedure lasts somewhere between 10 and 24 hours. [/quote] Thats an interesting approach. Makes sense, I Number A: Hope I can remember it & Letter 2: Hope I have a charger that will do those things.. [/quote] jus, I'm guessin' you'd need to spend big bux on a charger that could do this. I use a battery charger/car starter for the power source, a battery load tester to control the voltage in the charging circuit, and two VOMs, one to monitor battery voltage during the initialization and one to measure the current in the charging circuit. All adjustments are then done manually by me. Oh, I use a remote IR thermometer to shoot the battery case temperature every now and again..... IHTH someone! |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/13 at 21:33:25 OHH YEA!,, I feel "Helped"! Youve assisted me to feel ENVY! TYVM,, :) Just kiddin, man,, Its cool youve got such a fine setup.. Ill just hafta keep hobblin along with what I have.. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Digger on 06/12/13 at 20:01:05 3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote:
The tools don't need to be top grade stuff. You could spend $83.00 at Harbor Freight and get everything but the thermometer. Throw in a 20% off coupon on the charger/starter and save another 10 bucks.... That's probably a lot cheaper than a charger that could run through the sequence automatically! |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Ralph_86-Savage on 07/24/13 at 06:03:54 Hey guys, I'm Ralph and new here. I'll post more about me and my bike in the introduce me thread as soon as I can. In short, I have an 86 (all stock) and need to get a new battery and wonder what you guys recommend. I've been sold 2 "junk" batteries from the dealer and will never go back. Is the one posted about above on ebay from ChromeBatteries for about $54 bucks a good one? I'm on a tight budget right now and just need one I can get some use out of that isn't very expensive. I know everyone has different opinions, but what would you guys recommend? Thanks in advance, guys. I've been reading most of the threads here for quite some time and just recently made an account. I appreciate all of the time you have spent putting information on here. |
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Title: Re: Better Battery Deal ? Post by Charon on 07/24/13 at 06:19:28 There are a lot of opinions on the "correct" way to charge a lead-acid battery. The one I like says charge it at C/10 ("C" being its amp-hour capacity) until it reaches about 14.4 volts (some say 14.6). Then hold the voltage constant until the current drops to C/100. Then if you feel it desirable drop the charge voltage to somewhere around 13.2 volts, which is supposed to be a float voltage. This is approximately the sequence followed by automatic battery chargers such as the Battery Tender. For a 14 AH battery, stock on the S40, this means initial (bulk) charge at 1.4 amps. You are unlikely to damage the battery as long as the initial charge rate is no more than 2 amps. If the initial rate is lower, say 1 amp, there will be no harmful effect except that the charge will take longer. |
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