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Title: tire sealants Post by Doug B on 06/06/13 at 05:47:15 Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with a product called Ride-On. Their claims of sealing, balancing, and cleanliness seem almost ideal. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/13 at 05:53:10 Ive yet to see anything work on tubes. Tubes tear, |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Gyrobob on 06/06/13 at 06:51:47 I haven't used Ride-on specifically, but for the past half-century or so, I have used sealants like this in every motorcycle I've owned/used. The brand I have used mostly is PJ1 Balance Plus. I started using it when Cycle World tested it in the 1970s and said it worked well, with only two disadvantages: -- It could be messy when you change a tire if it is a tubeless tire, or if it is tubed tire with a ripped tube. -- You have to check your tires for nails more often because it will not leak if you pick up a nail. The couple of times I had a puncture with a tubed tire, it did not rip, or leak any air. It does a fantastic job of balancing because the balance is always perfect, and it doesn't change any as the tire wears. On a really cold day, if the bike was parked outside overnight, you can feel some imbalance for a mile or so while the goo inside loosens up and moves to where it needs to be for proper balancing. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by ZAR on 06/06/13 at 07:02:54 Gyro it looks like the PJ1 is NLA...at least thru Dennis Kirk and a few other sites I checked. Ya have any ideas? |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Gyrobob on 06/06/13 at 07:18:35 091201530 wrote:
I just discovered the same thing. Bummer. I bought a case of the stuff several years ago,.. after this RYCA Double Build, I only have a couple bottles left. Maybe I'll try Ride-On if I can't find anymore PJ-1. The reviews seem pretty good. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142869 It seems like Ride-On is about the same stuff as PJ-1, functionally. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Gyrobob on 06/06/13 at 07:21:34 One of the things I truly like about liquid balancers is that you never ever have slow leaks. That always used to bug me a lot,... knowing that every month or week, whatever, I was going to have to add a psi or two because of an undiscoverable slow leak. That's the good news. The bad news is that now you are forced into checking your tires more often to make sure you are not riding around with a nail in the tire. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by old_rider on 06/06/13 at 09:46:36 On long trips I usually have the green goop stuff to stop a leak long enough to get to a shop to get it fixed. I personally haven't needed to use it on the motorcycle but used it on a car tire once (with plug too), so I am not sure what a liquid sealant would do with a tube... |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Serowbot on 06/06/13 at 09:54:55 I had Slime in my DP bike... it plugged up the tire valve when I was putting in air, and made the tire go flat... the stuff was so caught up in there, the valve got boogered getting it out,...I had to buy a new valve... I also got a nail once, and it tore the tube... and threw Slime everywhere... No sealants for me... |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Oldfeller on 06/06/13 at 09:57:34 I still have some ride on and I have used it on one tubed tire in a real world for serious test. The tire was being worn out inside the rim portion by a protruding rough rust clump, so the ride on was ineffective for more than 2-3 days as the wear action kept on going, but it did give time to get home, so I guess it did an OK short term job. A lot of this stuff is sold for mountain bike tires that pick up thorn punctures, and it is pretty effective on a tiny thorn type puncture. Screws and such, no so much ..... anything that causes a progressive rip in the tube is gonna fail on you. It does make for one fer serious holy mess when the tear in the tube progresses and lets the stuff out all over the rear wheel (lubricated bead will break free and then lets the snot ooze out all over the place). Had to replace my rear brake shoes because of oily contamination from the dripping oozing ride on (lost braking effectiveness). |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by apache snow on 06/06/13 at 10:24:49 Yeah, not worth it to me because of the mess it makes. :-? |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/13 at 10:43:22 I got a flat on an almost new rear tire about 50 miles from home. The rigidity of the tire made highway travel okay at 60+ MPH, it was, well,, not smart, but It got me down the road. I stopped & got 5 cans ( different places) of different stuff. It was holding, kinda,, & I got home. But, when I got home & stopped, the tire developed the Most Horrible case of diarrhea you can imagine! The tube must finally just split & all that crap came gushing out, OHHH My Gawwwd! Wadda mess.. BUt, I was Home! |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Serowbot on 06/06/13 at 10:53:39 That's tirarrhea... :-?... |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Gyrobob on 06/06/13 at 17:54:16 Isn't it funny how some folks can have exactly the opposite experiences of others? |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Serowbot on 06/06/13 at 18:03:06 That's because it only happens to other people,.. until it happens to you... Everyone that likes the stock petcock,... has never had one get a leaky diaphragm... once it does... ...and you realize, you not only have gas flooding everywhere, you also have no mechanism to shut it off... you become a believer... ... (it's just like a stuck float,.. but now there's no shut-off)... |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Badass94Cad on 06/06/13 at 18:39:26 5A4C5B465E4B465D290 wrote:
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by pgambr on 06/06/13 at 19:47:36 Would the sealent work better on a good set of tubeless tires? I wouldn't want to be riding on them hard; although, if I did get a flat would I be able to get back to where I might be able to have it fixed? Best regards. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by TobyJug on 06/06/13 at 21:02:22 In the late 70's/early 80's I had a Bonnie and I put some OKO (UK sealant) in the tyres (to keep the UK theme). The first time I took it on a motorway I got up to 80 (mph) and it vibrated a bit. I thought it might just be one of those that you can ride through so I carried on going. At 100 it was still there so I decided to slow down. As I was slowing down I realised that it was still there so I stopped on the hard shoulder. The back tyre was completely flat and there was green snot all over it. The inner tube was shredded. I still don't know if it helped or not. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Gyrobob on 06/07/13 at 04:57:16 2F383E323D2D5F0 wrote:
If you damaged the tire enough so it went flat, even with sealant/balancer in it, the sealant would only make things worse because it would get messy. -- The value of the sealant (proven to me several times over the past 50 years), is to keep the tires from going flat in the first place,.. from the most common types of punctures,.. nails, screws, etc. -- Of all the tire puncture incidents I have had (in both tubed and tubeless tires), I never had one where the sealant/balancer did anything other than seal the hole. -- The only time I ever had to deal with it being messy was when I was replacing a worn tubeless tire with a new one. Yes, there is some clean up involved. 15 minutes and a 1/4 roll of paper towels,.. no problem,.. just another tedious step in the tire changing procedure. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Roberto1444 on 06/08/13 at 19:20:50 Tire valves are made of brass. After a couple of months the sealant leaks a little to the valve and oxidizes the brass, turning the whole thing nonfunctional. I've learned that the hard way, when I stopped at a roadside gas station one night, returning home after a day long ride, and tried to fill the tire. As Serowbot said, the valve sticks to the inward position so all I had was a deflated tire. And... the repair shop was already closed. So, use that goo if you want but don't leave home without a spare valve. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Gyrobob on 06/09/13 at 04:48:58 724F424552544F11141414200 wrote:
Apparently we use different formulations of sealant. In 50 years of sealant use, I have not had a clogged or corroded valve. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Dave on 06/10/13 at 05:28:30 I believe there are different formulations of sealant. Once I bought the cream colored Monkey Grip stuff and used it in my lawn tractor tires. A few months later I noticed the tires were oblong and mishapen.....kind of like a bagle where one side is larger than the other. I took the tires off the rim and found the sealer had dissolved the rubber covering the chords and the whole inside of the tire had strings of loose chord. I had to buy new tires and from then on I only use the Green colored slime. I have the green Slime in all my mower and tractor tires and I have never had any issues with the valve stems corroding. I have not used in in a street driven motorcycle - but I have used it in my mowers and dirt bikes as we have lots of vegetation with small thorns that make tiny little holes. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Doug B on 06/24/13 at 21:56:36 Thanks for the replies - Today I bought some Ride On and will put the product into my tubes tomorrow - I'll let you know how it works out for me |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by DavidOfMA on 06/24/13 at 22:42:03 78777E1C0 wrote:
I think you'll like it. So far it has sealed a slow leak completely for more than a year, tire balance is slightly improved, no problems with valves leaking or getting stuck, though with the Ride-on I only have to add air when it gets significantly colder. |
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Title: Re: tire sealants Post by Gyrobob on 06/25/13 at 04:58:00 DavidofMA said, "So far it has sealed a slow leak completely for more than a year." That is one of the huge benefits. You never have to check the pressure. If the pressure was good a month ago, it'll be that way a month from now. I'll admit, though, you are duty bound to check the tires more often because you might be riding around with a nail or screw in it and the sealant is masking the problem by preventing any leaks. |
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