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Message started by pgambr on 05/28/13 at 08:03:14

Title: Jardine mufffler
Post by pgambr on 05/28/13 at 08:03:14

I am interested in replacing my stock muffler with a jardine. Has any else had an experience with one of those. I don't want to have to rejet. I would like the new clean look and a better sound Thanks for your assistance.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Serowbot on 05/28/13 at 08:09:40

LOUD!.... and you should rejet... they are very open...

If you don't want to rejet.... try a Harley shorty, fully baffled... it might run better with a rejet,.. but it will survive if you don't... and has a much better sound...
Info here...http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1298689417
Rejetting is much simpler with a well baffled muffler...
... so, you'll have better running, and performance, with less trouble...

A Jardine, without careful rejetting is nothing more than an expensive noisemaker... your performance will drop...

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/28/13 at 08:22:00

practicality is a Dyna or sporty muffler. Better performance than stock, much better sound, no one hates you, cost is little,,

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by gdrseeker on 05/28/13 at 12:41:22

1996 Savage, Jardine, K&N, 145 / 55 jets, 1 turn out at 5000 ft. elevation.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Boogieman on 05/28/13 at 12:56:33

I have a jardine and it is loud, like obnoxious loud, but I like it that way. the more I learn about these bikes, people riding them in different parts of the country in different jetting and whatnot the more I realize that one thing might work for my bike but not at all for my neighbor's bike. don't be afraid to get in there and change some stuff around. if you and I have the same carburetor I could give you all kinds of advice. and as soon as I fix my electrical problem I'll be able to tune it properly.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/28/13 at 14:31:50

I would suggest that there are not 3 F's in a Jardine Mufler,, maybe not even 1 F,, a 3 f muffler would be pretty quiet Id think..

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by pgambr on 05/28/13 at 14:54:57

You are correct regarding the spelling. What is involved with rejetting a standard carb? Thanks for the insight.

One other question. When you post a new topic how do you get the little tab that says new in blue?

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by verslagen1 on 05/28/13 at 15:15:03

4F585E525D4D3F0 wrote:

One other question. When you post a new topic how do you get the little tab that says new in blue?

press the esc key repeatedly. :-?

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Serowbot on 05/28/13 at 15:28:26

2D3A3C303F2F5D0 wrote:

One other question. When you post a new topic how do you get the little tab that says new in blue?

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Borracho on 05/28/13 at 21:12:29

Get the Jardine. The sound will attract hot women and scare off small animals. ;)

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Dave on 05/29/13 at 05:12:25

3721362B33262B30440 wrote:

[quote author=2D3A3C303F2F5D0 link=1369753394/0#6 date=1369778097]One other question. When you post a new topic how do you get the little tab that says new in blue?

It's automatic... it only shows up if you are logged in,.. and it goes away once you click on the thread...
It's to let individuals know that there is a new post in this thread since the last time they looked at it...[/quote]

Also.....the "NEW" will not show up on your computer if you are the one that posted last. You will only see the new if another forum member has posted after you. Also......the post will have moved back up to the top of the list....whith the most recent post being the one at the top and lthe earlir ones below it.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Boogieman on 05/29/13 at 14:13:56

I concur. the jardine does attract women scare off small animals.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by pgambr on 05/29/13 at 14:49:47

That sounds good, we can always use a bit of extra help there. Will I need to rejet? Can you make any recomendations of what worked for you? I have a standard carb. Thanks for the insight, it is appreciated.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Boogieman on 05/29/13 at 15:17:35

I honestly can't tell you if you will need to rejet or not, however I can assure you that should u feel the need to rejet, I'll help you through it. also jets are cheap and the process for changing them is simple.
Before my bikes little electrical problem that I'm trying to sort out now she ran awesome with a 52.5 pilot and a 152.5 main which i believe is actually stock for my year (2003).
So bolt a jardine on there, maybe wrap the pipe and get a K&N cone filter,,, fire it up, see what happens.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by apache snow on 05/29/13 at 15:21:11

Stock would be pilot 52.5 and main 145. :)

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Boogieman on 05/29/13 at 16:17:15

There we go! Thnx for chiming in on that one Apache.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by pabywater on 05/29/13 at 18:24:21

I bought my 07 used with a Jardine already on it and it is horrible loud. Serowbot is right on about the performance w/o rejetting, too. I can't ride at highway speed for more than a half hour w/out getting a migrane and the noise around town just makes everyone mad. Currently looking to find a stock muffler.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Marcial on 05/30/13 at 07:59:21

I have a jardine on my 03 and let me tell you it's loud. It comes down to your preference. I think it's a bit loud but only at night when things settle down. However I think it's good overall. I think others have also purchased the Harley short muffler. Good luck with purchase.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/30/13 at 08:21:58

Id Never put a stock muffler on,, too heavy & too ugly. The Dyna is cheap & attractive & saves pounds & sounds better.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by teggy on 06/02/13 at 16:35:16

I have an 06 with a Jardine Muffler I'd like to sell if you want one. Sound is way too loud for me. I can't stand it. You must re-jet if you want one.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/02/13 at 17:57:30

Dynas are loads better lookin, easy to jet for them, no one hates ya.,.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by zx250r on 06/03/13 at 06:21:47

I bought a 98 used with one recently, i love the sound of it. it's only loud if you want it to be in my opinion. heavy throttle = loud noise, light throttle = minimal noise.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by pgambr on 06/04/13 at 15:20:08

Teggy, thanks I appreciate the offer. The rejetting is a bit more of a project than I want to do at this time. I'm a bit weary of the rejetting without any experience. Best regards.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by zx250r on 06/04/13 at 17:44:06

not to hijack, but anyone have any suggestions for removing surface rust/corrosion from the jardine/header?

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Boogieman on 06/04/13 at 18:02:20

sand blasters are awesome. A wire wheel on a grinder will work good too.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Coaxial on 06/05/13 at 05:26:27

ketchup for a few hours and aluminum foil (lightly)

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by old_rider on 06/05/13 at 05:58:33

On chrome surface rust I useually use #0000 steel wool, make sure its got 4 zero's. I get mine at wally world (wal-mart) comes in a bag with about six or eight pillows (don't know what else to call them). The #0000 will not scratch good chrome, but might scratch some of the chromed plastics, try small area not visable. But on every muffler or pipe i've used it on, it has worked great, I use it on almost every chromed part on my motorcycles.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Dave on 06/05/13 at 06:46:32

Aluminum Foil and Coke....and maybe Ketchup does a good fast job of taking the rust off....however it does not do mucc to make is smooth and it will be rought to the touch where the rust buts up against the chrome. The 0000 Steel wool and some real "chrome" polish works to make it smooth again. The rusty areas are prone to rusting again as there is no protective chorme on top of that area anymore.....so it will rust again when it becomes wet.

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by Scottwerty on 06/22/13 at 04:53:14

I have a jardine and it is LOUD. I like the look the slash cut muffle and it a bonus that it will save my life because a deaf driver will feel the rumble of my exhaust ;D. I'm pretty much at sea level and use 52.5 pilot and 152.5 main with about half white spacer. Pilot screw is out 3 turns ( I know it's out far but the bike hates the 55 pilot jet)

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by savagerider87 on 06/23/13 at 13:49:52

I have a HD sportster competition slip on pipe on mine and shes a LOUD one... when i cruise in the city, the cops give me the death stare, havent been pulled over yet , but Im sure its bound to happen ;) FYI I wear a full face and i still get ear aches in my right ear ;D

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by savagerider87 on 06/23/13 at 18:01:45

73484552434F545249414C53200 wrote:

this does work like a charm just make sure to keep a good coat of wax on it to keep it from rusting.... but from my prior experience use the steel wool and wax method ;)

Title: Re: Jardine mufffler
Post by savagerider87 on 06/23/13 at 23:48:09

474A4A424C4048444B250 wrote:

I concur. the jardine does attract women scare off small animals.

YESSIREEE I get TONS of female heads turning my way when im cruising the streets in 2nd and 3rd gear and also a good many PO'D boyfriends and hubbies of those pretty little ladies, the only thing is this.... I dont have a jardine I have a HD competition pipe, i want the jardine but for the whopping price of FREE ill use the one I have for now.... I say catch me if u can to the guys that get mad but the smiles I get from the ladies are worth the risk of having one of those guys catch up to me thats why i wear a full face with a mirrored visor so they guys get to see their angry faces lol oh yeah its a great deer deterrent too ;)