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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> What to buy! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1368097830 Message started by Gardner on 05/09/13 at 04:10:30 |
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Title: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/09/13 at 04:10:30 I am looking for comments or advise from you learned members of th is forum. I am in the process of shopping for a used S40 and have found two for sale close by. My problem is this one is a 2007 with 3600 Klm the other is a 2010 with 19000 Klm both appear in mint shape. The 2010 has a small windshield and the 07 comes with a sissy bar and rack not installed as well as a new helmet. Which would you chose and why and is there anything I should be looking for. There is only $500 diff between the two. How about it I would like some feedback. Thanks ,RW :) |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by ZAR on 05/09/13 at 05:13:27 Condition and Maintenence are the very first thing to check! Ask the sellers to show you the maintence records and compare which one was better cared for. If that seems equal between the bikes,ask the owner of the 2010 if the cam chain has been replaced yet as with the mileage you quote the chain is due for inspection/replacement. If I was choosing between the two I'd go for the 2007 because of the lower miles/klm if otherwise the condition was equal. The older bike may even save you a few $$ on insurance and registration ;) Good luck and keep us posted! |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by gdrseeker on 05/09/13 at 07:22:00 Go for either bike but have him throw in the sissy bar, rack and helmet. If you go for the 2010 You can do the Verslavy instead of replacing the Cam Chain. You can probably get another 20K miles out of that chain. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1180206459 |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/10/13 at 04:21:53 I had posted a thank for the response re my up coming purchase and for some reason it has not shown up. I am waiting for the dealer that has the2010 model to call me back after he hears from the prev owner about maintenance records. One thing I noticed which I thought strange was the exhaust from the motor on the 2007 model was discoloured from heat ! Yet on the 2010 which had more than double the miles there was no indication of this . Cheers , RW |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/10/13 at 04:30:45 I am wondering if perhaps the prev owner may have had the pipe changed prior to the trade. Has anyone one up with a fix for the hard seat perhaps a sheepskin cover might offer some comfort has anyone come up with any changes that would help the firmness. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/10/13 at 07:27:34 The older one isnt old enough to have the age affect anything other than tires, IMO. The newer one is borderline on cam chain attention. As noted, the Verslavy is the way to go there. Either one sounds okay, but you do need to know what work has been done. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by gdrseeker on 05/10/13 at 07:47:55 If it was me I would go with the bike with lower miles. It is only a couple years older and it isn't old enough to be having rotten seals and such. If both bikes are in similar condition such as Tires, Condition of the tank (No dents), Seat condition, Scratches and dings. Then I would value the bike with lower miles a good 500 to 800 more than the high mileage bike. It is however easy to swap speedometers and therefore fake the mileage on this bike. Just be sure you get a good feeling from the seller. The only way to really tell is open her up and look at the cam chain and adjuster. My opinion either bike has a muffle swap, if it has the air mix screw exposed so it can be tuned up, or if the seller knows what oil has been put in the bike, maintenance records, then that bike has been taken care of and you should get that one. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by WD on 05/10/13 at 07:53:42 Guys, he's talking KILOMETERS, cut that in half (roughly) for the miles on the machine. At best, 1/2 way to Versy on the 2010, rings barely seated on the 2007. Look the one you are interested in over with a fine tooth comb and a magnifying glass. You'll see the bike's true condition pretty easily. Soot around the exhaust port, oil staining at gasketed surfaces, sand in nooks and crannies... even the best pre-sale detailing misses something. If you are dead set on the 2010, get new tires installed before it leaves the dealership. 3 years is sufficient for the factory IRC tires to be rotten. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/10/13 at 08:08:39 Yea, dont just walk around it, get down & look. Take a flashlight. You dont wanna find any surprises once its home, |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by ToesNose on 05/10/13 at 10:29:40 Well at least try to reduce the suprises ;D |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Dane Allen on 05/10/13 at 13:05:18 Buy both!!! Why have one when you can have two at double the price??? ;D ;D If there is anyway you can swing a dual purchase and can perform basic and intermediate maintenance reliably then go fo both. You will always have a ride!! |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by jcstokes on 05/11/13 at 02:19:36 Where are you Gardner? Kms must be outside USA. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/11/13 at 03:02:45 In answer to the question re my location I am in Moncton ,New Brunswick Canada we are located approx 180 miles north os Bangor ,Maine and 40 miles from Nova Scotia border. I guess the salesman at the dealer with the 2010 model has had bigger fish to fry as he has not got back to me yet. I am still wondering why the exhaust is so blue on the 07and not discoloured on the 2010. The miles on the 2010 would be 12,000 so whoever had it certainly used it. :) |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/11/13 at 03:06:16 I have found out the 07 is with the second owner a lady and she only put about 60 miles on it last summer because she was unable to ride so chances of getting much maintenance info there are slim. As to the other on I am still waiting. :-? |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by ToesNose on 05/11/13 at 04:04:37 I wouldn't sweat the pipe being blue on the 07', pipes turn blue. Sometimes it's from heat typically running lean, sometimes its just from oils, wax or residue left on the pipe then heated up. You can always use Blue Job on it and clean it off. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/11/13 at 04:08:46 Thanks for the tip I never heard of Blue Bob where do you by this product.? And how difficult it it to use. Cheers , RW |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by ToesNose on 05/11/13 at 04:11:22 There are a few different companies that make products to remove heat stains from chrome, Blue Job is just one of the most know ones. Do a search or call a local bike shop and see which products they have ;) http://www.blue-job.com/ |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by pt mike on 05/12/13 at 18:49:33 hi any idea where i can get a used exhaust system for my 1988 savage? thanks mike from pei |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by jcstokes on 05/12/13 at 21:09:15 Do what the handbook says. Have them started and run for three minutes. Stop them and let them stand for a few minutes, have the sales persons hold the bike up right/vertical while you look in the little oil level window. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/12/13 at 22:53:16 Have them started and run for three minutes. Stop them and let them stand for a few minutes. I just dont unnerstand that.. If its been sitting for a day or 20,, why not stand it up & look at the oil level? |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by jcstokes on 05/12/13 at 23:35:25 JOG, I wouldn't hold a candle to your technical knowledge, but that's what the S40 owners manual says to do when checking the oil level. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Dave on 05/13/13 at 03:45:51 4148585F44404E582B0 wrote:
The only reason I can see to do this, is to fill the oil passages before checkng oil. Over time the oil will seep past the pil pump and drain the passages back into the oil sump.....and give a slightly higher reading. I doubt the level changes very much. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by ToesNose on 05/13/13 at 04:02:54 6E6C7B6A6A676A6C7F79777D6D7F687F797B1E0 wrote:
Check the market place section of the forums- http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=market |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by engineer on 05/13/13 at 07:00:25 If both are in good condition I would buy the one with the least miles on it. You can check to see if the mileage is honest by looking at the tires, the foot peg rubber, and other little details. Look for bolts with rounded heads and things that indicate someone has messed with it. Also look for signs of weathering and corrosion, you want a bike that was kept indoors and hasn't been messed with. Don't include the accessories in your decision unless they are something you intended to buy. The helmet is not worth considering, it is best to buy a new helmet. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/13/13 at 14:32:39 Thanks for all the imput from you folks, I went to the dealer here this morn and took the 2010 model out for a short ride ,weather cool and windy did not go far and it seemed to work fine lots of torque and shifted well no back firing on deceleration . That being said I was ready to do a deal and on looking the bike over noticed an oil leak at the head so left the dealer to look into it, while I keep looking. The 07 previously mention was sold . There are two others yet to check out in my area. So nothing confirmed here as yet. :( |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/14/13 at 09:43:58 That oil leak is likely nothing, but, Id be concerned the dealer mite make things worse & hide making a mess just long enough to sell it. YOu should include in the sales agreement that IF there are some stripped bolts in the head/head cover, THEY pay to have it fixed. I dont trust them to not jake leg a "repair" to get it sold. |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/14/13 at 14:26:17 I hear ya on the jake leg repairs, looked at another today ,no battery in bike not sure why people try and sell without the bike in running order? Now am told to come back on Saturday and it will be running. >:( |
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Title: Re: What to buy! Post by Gardner on 05/20/13 at 11:30:15 G,day all well my hunt has ended, not at all as I had expected it to be. I stumbled upon a 05 Honda Silverwing low milege at a very good price after due consideration I purchased it on Friday and drove it home on Saturday in a cold rain. With my arthritis I think this swing will work well for me. Thanks to all the help from the members on this site you were most helpful and I appreciate it. :) To the admin if you wish you could remove me from your members list ,I have enjoyed my time spent here, RW |
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