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Title: Petcock slip up Post by Doug on 05/08/13 at 04:16:08 Hmm. Seems I left it on prime all night on accident. Will this cause carb flooding? If so should I take it out and drain it? |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Dave on 05/08/13 at 04:38:39 Nope......The automatic vacuum petcock is a safety device, and if your floats are working properly there is likely not an issue. If the bike starts....you are good to go! |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Routy on 05/08/13 at 05:29:04 Quote: The automatic vacuum petcock is a safety device, --------------------------------------------------------- Dave, becareful w/ calling it a safter device ! That language does not set well w/ the Mod Squad around here. Wait a minute,.....you are the Mod Squad !! There you all go, messin w/ my mind again !! :o |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Dave on 05/08/13 at 05:30:58 7A756F74686E7D7F77796E1C0 wrote:
Ummmmmm. It is a convenience device? |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Bubba on 05/08/13 at 06:29:03 546F6275646873756E666B74070 wrote:
Ummmmmm. It is a convenience device?[/quote] ^^^ It is a piece of junk... ;) |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by WD on 05/08/13 at 06:41:24 Mine was still working in 2005 when my stepson crashed and holed the fuel tank. Bike is a 1998. As long as it isn't bucking and lurching going down the road, the vacuum petcock is working fine. Biggest issue with it is the factory lines, both the fuel and vacuum lines issued with the bike are a very cheap grade of material. Change them out, at the same time, when you see the fuel line cracking where the cut end meets the petcock body. Use silicone lines and it becomes a non-issue unless/until the gasket.fuel diverter in the petcock body disintegrate. I'd classify it as more nanny state nonsense than anything else. God forbid an American has to remember to shut their own motorcycle fuel flow off at the end of the day... ::) |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Doug on 05/08/13 at 07:20:19 lol Thanks for the advice guys. I'm about to put a little fresh gas in, and see how things go. |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by verslagen1 on 05/08/13 at 07:29:14 check your oil level, a black window no matter how you tip it is a problem, slightly higher than you last looked at it should boil off. check your airbox, (you can just open the drain at the bottom, some will normally come out). Park with your nose pointing uphill if you can, helps keep the gas outta the crankcase and your kickstand locked down. |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Oldfeller on 05/08/13 at 07:32:30 The stock vacsucker is a good idea that was poorly executed, with very poor long term reliability in a performance modded Savage -- such that it causes more (and more varied) running issues than a new person would readily believe on first reading about it. ..... see, I can do balanced when I want to ..... If you run a totally stock Savage you may never find out all the joys of the stock petcock as with the stock restrictive air filter in place it can work for years and years before finally failing due to rubber fatigue. But if you mod your intake and exhaust systems to get back the 10 hp that Savage EPA'd away from you, then you can read about ....... =============================== =========== how I really feel about stock vac sucker petcocks .... but let's see how balanced you are when you are sitting by the side of the road trying to get your pisspoorcock to pass enough gas to get you started up again. .... or have you changing your oil because it pisspoorcocked gasoline down into your sump again. .... or made you stop at the gas station because you were out of gas again and you find out at the pump you were only part of a gallon off a full tank. ::) |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by apache snow on 05/08/13 at 09:32:10 My petcock is not giving me any trouble yet so I thought I would get ahead of the game. I just ordered a new raptor petcock with a spare gasket. So I should be all set. ;) |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Greg on 05/08/13 at 10:03:46 1506420 wrote:
I never shut my Raptor petcock off. I haven't had any issues. Even after having parked for a week or so during the winter. |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by WD on 05/08/13 at 10:22:44 No problems here either, and the current petcock is a 1970s Honda piece that was never rebuilt. On an unidentifiable scrap pile at the bike junkyard gas tank... As long as the float needle is in decent shape, it's a non-issue. |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Serowbot on 05/08/13 at 10:24:11 It'll only leak on PRIME when parked,... if the floats stick... In ON position, this wouldn't happen... (the floats would still be stuck,... it'll just wait to leak until you start riding)... (So much safer to leak while you're riding?)... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by 87 savage on 05/08/13 at 18:33:16 3B3C68296E2F5D0 wrote:
If it was leaking you would probably smell gas and see gas dripping from the airbox drain hose, or at least a wet gas stain under the bike. If fuel went the other way it would be as Verslagen said: In the crankcase and your oil level would appear high. If you didn't see any of these signs fuel most likely wasn't slipping past the float needle valve. Just curious, why was it on prime? :-? |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Doug on 05/09/13 at 10:16:13 24292720373174727C7D450 wrote:
If it was leaking you would probably smell gas and see gas dripping from the airbox drain hose, or at least a wet gas stain under the bike. If fuel went the other way it would be as Verslagen said: In the crankcase and your oil level would appear high. If you didn't see any of these signs fuel most likely wasn't slipping past the float needle valve. Just curious, why was it on prime? :-?[/quote] Because I had not started it in a good while and figured that most of the gas had evaporated from the carb. The bike didn't want to start in any other position. When I got her going, I got so excited that I forgot to flip it back down to on. |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Doug on 05/09/13 at 10:21:57 Just installed my raptor yesterday, and changed the gas. Have to swing by the store to get some oil. (kind of low) Why the heck does it have to be so difficult to change the spark plug? |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Digger on 05/09/13 at 18:58:52 707723622564160 wrote:
It's not so bad if you don't totally remove the tank. Here's what I do: 1. Remove the seat. 2. Remove the two bolts from the rear of the fuel tank. 3. Remove all lines (fuel and vacuum (if you still have one)) from the petcock. 4. Move the fuel tank back a bit, then prop up the rear of the tank with a short section of 4" X 4". This will keep the tank out of your way. 5. Remove the port chrome beauty cover. 6. Slap a wobble adapter onto your 3/8" drive ratchet. Pop an 18mm deep-well socket on the adapter and you've now got access to the spark plug. Note that, when using this method, I do not have to disconnect the speedo cable or the electrical connector. IHTH! |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by 87 savage on 05/09/13 at 19:10:20 060155145312600 wrote:
I've done that myself! So Is it running ok now in the on position? |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Doug on 05/10/13 at 09:49:52 262B2522353376707E7F470 wrote:
I've done that myself! So Is it running ok now in the on position?[/quote] Well, it seems as though she is not wanting to start now... but that may be due to the battery. I just got a new Big Crank and installed it a few days ago... But my blinkers aren't all installed so the brake light and blinker lights stay on, which may be sucking alot of juice. I'm not sure how to fix that exept get it all wired up properly and recharge the battery if needed. I also have a question about the oil lvl. How much should I put in there, considering I've never done it myself. how far should it come up on the window down at the bottom? |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by 87 savage on 05/10/13 at 15:08:27 727521602766140 wrote:
Right in the middle of the window when the bike is level, or just over the bottom when on the kickstand. There are two positions in which the key will come out of the ignition switch. If you turn the key all the way back (Park position), your tail light will stay on. It is for emergencies like having to leave your bike on the side of the road to go get gas or whatever. That will drain the battery quick as sh#t! :( |
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Title: Re: Petcock slip up Post by Doug on 05/11/13 at 09:50:19 Ah, I see. Thanks for the help. I'm going to have to check my wiring and make sure my blinkers and such are hooked up properly. That should fix the problem. |
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