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Message started by arteacher on 05/04/13 at 08:59:14

Title: Question about body molding tape.
Post by arteacher on 05/04/13 at 08:59:14

The rubber (?) knee pads on my tank won't stay adhered to the tank because of the contour of the tank. The tape sticks to the tank just fine but the rubber (?) pulls away from the tape as it wants to straighten out.
I thoroughly cleaned the rubber with acetone before applying the tape, and even scuffed up the rubber a bit.
I was thinking that if I put the tape on the pads and clamped them together for a while until the adhesive cures it might work. There is also n "adhesive actuator" solution that the body shops use that I can't find in any auto supply stores.
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Serowbot on 05/04/13 at 09:22:27

I used contact cement on mine... ;)...
Apply, and wait for it to get really tacky... then stick'em together...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/tm002.jpg

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by ToesNose on 05/04/13 at 11:40:34

How about warming he rubber pads up a bit before you mount them too, might help them from wanting to spring back prematurely.  ;)

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Roberto1444 on 05/04/13 at 17:00:30

Hi Arteacher, where are your knee pads from? I'm considering buying those from wwag.com in Germany, as it looks like they are the only without some sort of brit iron logo. Good luck!

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Serowbot on 05/04/13 at 17:10:47

Lots of universal pads...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=tank+pads&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1&_nkw=tank+knee+pads&_sacat=0

I made mine from rubber floor runner... ;D...

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Roberto1444 on 05/05/13 at 06:05:20

Most of the pads on ebay aren't generic or universal but, curiously, the one on top of that linked page was, and it was exactly the same the German web store offers, having a nice shape that echoes our tank's contour. The price was ok but not the cost of intl. shipping. Luckily, the seller mentioned the brand so I was able to get them elsewhere. My bike will get its knee pad soon (something every real big single needs, right?). Thanks, I owe you that one. And a motorcycle wouldn't be happy with a floor runner pad, you're kidding.

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Gyrobob on 05/05/13 at 06:43:45

Scotch Super Weatherstrip Adhesive.  Sticks anything to anything permanently, takes a while to cure, and stays flexible.  Just be sure you only put it where it belongs, cuz getting it off is a bee-atch.

Walmart and Amazon and most auto parts places have it.


Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by arteacher on 05/05/13 at 08:08:20


1D202D2A3D3B207E7B7B7B4F0 wrote:
Hi Arteacher, where are your knee pads from? I'm considering buying those from wwag.com in Germany, as it looks like they are the only without some sort of brit iron logo. Good luck!

Got them from J&P. They are the same as the German ones.

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/05/13 at 08:53:58

I think Id go at it in stages.
First, Id get them HOT, really, really Hot so that leather glove with cotton gloves inside are required to work with them. Look at the curves they have to make & physically force them into those directions, only go past it some, so when they cool & the pressure is off, theyll be closer to the shape you want. YOull be holding them.
Remember, it is possible to ask the impossible of things. If theyre thick & if youre asking them to bend in more than 1 direction, youre asking for the perimeter to change,, so, be prepared for a hassle &/or a disappointment.
HF has a heat gun for under $15.00. I put off buying one for years. Finally, window tinting forced my hand. Now, Ive used it a bunch.. shoulda got it yearzago.,.

Remember the Ford pickups from the 80's? Those moldings down the side were all held on by 2 sided tape. Mine is an 87 & still holding.
Body shops have some fine adhesives, even better now that when I was a body man. YOu mite be ahead to just pay a visit to a body shop or 3..
What a fine reason for a ride!

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by JD on 05/05/13 at 09:39:09


323939303C333228295D0 wrote:
The rubber (?) knee pads on my tank won't stay adhered to the tank because of the contour of the tank. The tape sticks to the tank just fine but the rubber (?) pulls away from the tape as it wants to straighten out.
I thoroughly cleaned the rubber with acetone before applying the tape, and even scuffed up the rubber a bit.
I was thinking that if I put the tape on the pads and clamped them together for a while until the adhesive cures it might work. There is also n "adhesive actuator" solution that the body shops use that I can't find in any auto supply stores.
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Dont use acetone. If you do, leave them out in the sun for a little while so all of the acetone evaporates. I recommend using alchohol.
Take a hairdryer and blow hot air on the rubber for around five minutes and get them nice and warm.
Also you can use 3m auto tape. Works great.

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Serowbot on 05/05/13 at 10:03:43


063B363126203B65606060540 wrote:
And a motorcycle wouldn't be happy with a floor runner pad, you're kidding.

Not kidding... I did both the knee pads and the center stripe with Ace Hardware running floor mat... $1.99 per ft... (stole the idea from Vintage MX'rs... they use it on their Euro bikes, Maico, Jawa, CZ, etc.)...

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/ctank_zps48f1d396.jpg

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Boofer on 05/05/13 at 19:36:18

Why not just put some knee pads on your legs with elastic straps...easily transferable.  ;D

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Dave on 05/06/13 at 05:56:51

In addition to the Weatherstrip adhesive (Gorilla Snot) that was mentioned earlier, there is contact cement that works similarly but is available as a spray or brush on.  I tried the two sided tape on a rubber pad I put on my floor jack, and it did not stick to the rubber well and the pad slid and moved under pressure.  The contact cement did fine.

One problem you may have is with the black rubber getting hot in the direct sunshine, and the glue loosening.  Heat is always a good way to soften adhesives, and the sun cany really heat up black rubber.

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/06/13 at 10:12:25

If you got your 2 sided tape at Lowes, odds are its not even close to the stuff that holds moldings on cars. Ive removed moldings that were held so well that the 2 or 3 runs of tape under it required me to pull as hard as I could & it still required a razor blade. Im talking about having a foot long piece loose & pulling to get the last coupla feet off, like on a bedside. Some of that stuff was Tough.. Imagine, keeping moldings on a truck for over 25 years & still holding? Through all the weather & car washes,, daaaang,, serious binniss!

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Dave on 05/06/13 at 10:24:47


706F696E73744575457D6F63281A0 wrote:
If you got your 2 sided tape at Lowes, odds are its not even close to the stuff that holds moldings on cars. Ive removed moldings that were held so well that the 2 or 3 runs of tape under it required me to pull as hard as I could & it still required a razor blade. Im talking about having a foot long piece loose & pulling to get the last coupla feet off, like on a bedside. Some of that stuff was Tough.. Imagine, keeping moldings on a truck for over 25 years & still holding? Through all the weather & car washes,, daaaang,, serious binniss!


Good point.  Did he (OP) use that white stuff from Lowe's.....or the brownish colored stuff from the Auto Supply?

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by v-pilot on 05/06/13 at 15:52:32


3127302D35202D36420 wrote:
Lots of universal pads...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=tank+pads&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1&_nkw=tank+knee+pads&_sacat=0

I made mine from rubber floor runner... ;D...

...and your fly screen is a helmet visor?   :-?  8-)

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Serowbot on 05/06/13 at 16:21:41

Yup,... and if you search around my bike, very closely,. you'll also find a re-purposed VCR lid... a sink stopper plunger, a hockey puck, part of a sliding window lock, a pair of BMX stunt pegs, part of a street sign,... and bicycle pedals...
;D ;D ;D...

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/06/13 at 19:48:44

NOt to mention Alf's retarded nephew..

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Roberto1444 on 05/07/13 at 14:41:08

Serowbot wrote on 05/04/13 at 23:10:47:
Quote:
I made mine from rubber floor runner...


Problem is that you chose a very thin material for your pads. Everybody knows that the purpose of knee pads is to protect the tank in case the rider's knee is crushed between the bike and the road. They must be fat, like Matchless or AJS pads are. BTW, how about those emblems on your bike's tank? They look like heraldic lions... Re-purposed Peugeot's?

Title: Re: Question about body molding tape.
Post by Serowbot on 05/07/13 at 16:44:07


1B262B2C3B3D26787D7D7D490 wrote:
Serowbot wrote on 05/04/13 at 23:10:47:
Quote:
I made mine from rubber floor runner...
BTW, how about those emblems on your bike's tank? They look like heraldic lions... Re-purposed Peugeot's?

Yup,.. Peugeot wheel emblems... I've changed them... I have a Suzuki "S" symbol now...

Knee pads are just to stop you from scuffing the tank with your knees...
For crash protection,.. I'd want the pad on the road side of my knees...
Knee sliders...

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