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Title: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/25/13 at 07:18:07 Lawmakers, aides may get Obamacare exemption By: John Bresnahan and Jake Sherman April 24, 2013 09:49 PM EDT Congressional leaders in both parties are engaged in high-level, confidential talks about exempting lawmakers and Capitol Hill aides from the insurance exchanges they are mandated to join as part of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, sources in both parties said. if true, it might be time to storm the castle.... |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WD on 04/25/13 at 08:12:12 And this is a surprise because... :-? Perk of the job is being held outside the law, what's considered good for the "sheeple" isn't good enough for the "shepherds". Nothing new there. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/25/13 at 08:16:46 Are you just now finding that out? LOL |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/13 at 09:49:24 Its gonna totally wreck the health care industry & screw the people, but these "The Goobs LOVE us" idiots cant see it coming,, |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/25/13 at 09:57:22 The day will come when they know we will storm the castle. Why on earth do you think they're trying to disarm us. The few Democrats who voted against the gun bill were terrified they wouldn't get reelected. They vote theirselves raises, 100 vacation days, all kinds of superior benefits all the time setting on their asses. They cant even do 4th grade math and balance a budget. Diane Feinstein has no earthly idea what an assault weapon is, yet she introduces a bill to ban them. They've been banned 50 years or longer. I cant think of anything I do now that isn't taxed. If I drive my car I pay fuel tax and tolls,, everything I buy is taxed, they'll pass the internet tax, Now if I sell my house I pay taxes on that. If I talk on the phone I pay phone taxes. If I smoke or drink I pay taxes. When I eat I pay taxes. If I buy a used blowed up worn out vehicle I have to pay blue book value taxes. I'm buying the government 1.6 billion bullets, armored vehicles, rifles and drones to kill me and my family. We pay trillions protecting half the world and we refuse to protect or educate our own children. We pay to build bridges, housing all over the planet while ours are falling down. Our police forces are becoming tyrranical, shooting at and beating up women, but if another country mistreats women overseas we spend trillions attacking them. We mistreat our veterans who do a hell of a job trying to keep us free. The Superior Court elected George W Bush, not us. Our freedom has been slowly taken away by the so called Patriot Act. A computer is reading this email now and I will be put on the terrorist list. We bail out billionaires who have tax free overseas acounts while poor people struggle to put the next meal on the table because the billionaires shipped all our jobs overseas. The more money the Federal Reserve prints the more useless it becomes. The United Nations wants to disarm us and run our country. We want to legalise all the illegal immigrants who pay no taxes, smuggle illegal drugs etc just to get votes. Its not fair to Sri and millions of others who did it legally the right way. Its now legal for Monsanto to poison us. Rich successful men use to work hard and earn what they have like Jerry E., now the majority of them are low life thieves who take advantage of the poor, middleclass and loopholes in the tax system. I can go on and on for days but I'll quit boring you. Storm the castle, the longer we wait the harder it will become. The examples I wrote about above are just some of the reasons we broke free from England. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/13 at 10:02:12 You tell'em Midnight,, |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Starlifter on 04/25/13 at 16:29:41 "Storm the castle, the longer we wait the harder it will become" What does that mean?? Surely you don't mean "storm the castle" in the way that Timothy McVeigh & Terry Nichols stormed it. :o If you mean storm the castle metaphorically like torches and pitchforks to the front that's okay. ;) |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by srinath on 04/25/13 at 20:22:26 Yea and I can assure you we will storm the castle and like go to McDonalds for lunch ... We cant do squat without eating there. In fact we could protest against McDonalds in front of McDonalds and we'll stop ha tto have lunch @ McD's. Like occupy movement of last year ... thank god they didn't form a party and contest the election ... it only serves to split the votes out of the cause that is closest to them and get both to lose ... Occupy IMHO was the librulls TEA party. Them on the ballot will have killed librulls. Sorta like Perot in 92 or Buchanan in 00. I cant see us protesting ... after all we are democratic ... we need to kill the 2 party system ... we may have to go to the run off style of old. But that's the primary system we have, that has to go ... too many state constitutions have the primary specified in them. Those have to go ... too many things man ... I'll be back after eating to complete. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/25/13 at 23:47:11 I've been for eliminating the 2 party system for a long time. I'm also for popular vote and eliminating the electoral college. Now that political contributions are unlimited China can get our next president elected. By storm the castle any congressperson or president that doesn't go along with the Constitution is fired with no benefits. They take an oath to uphold it. By going against it they are in violation of their oath and should be considered traitors. Anyone in the military who violates their oath is considered a traitor and it should be the same for any government employee.The Constitution is the greatest thing that's ever happened to western civilization and in the last 10 years politicians have tried to rip it apart. They don't deserve to represent this country or anyone who helped get them elected. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Serowbot on 04/26/13 at 00:29:56 Wouldn't it be funny,... if the Right went totally... Tea Party... and Left went totally to the Occupy group... ... and the two major candidates were left out there,... hanging with their pants down... I think,... that's where we're goin'... Ideology over reality... It's like a domestic... Cold War... M A D... Mutual Assured Destruction... ...and everyone's pleased to die for a cause... The winner,... loses slightly less quickly, than the loser... Who needs the USSR,... when we can willingly consume ourselves?... Very Kubrick...:-?... |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/26/13 at 00:47:12 The reality is the government has lied to us and is responsible for millions of deaths ever since they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin attack. After that lie its just been one after another. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/26/13 at 06:50:34 What does that mean?? Surely you don't mean "storm the castle" in the way that Timothy McVeigh & Terry Nichols stormed it. If you mean storm the castle metaphorically like torches and pitchforks to the front that's okay I’m sure you simply ran out of time or you would have also said ; ‘storm the castle in the way Bill Ayers or the Earth Liberation Front did….” Metaphorically of course. Run the bums out of office and start over. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/26/13 at 07:02:12 I've been for eliminating the 2 party system for a long time. I'm also for popular vote and eliminating the electoral college. I’m not in favor of eliminating 2 party system or the electoral college. I think people line up basically two ways; conservative and liberal. There’s some overlap, but not much. I think the 2 party system has worked well. The problem is our media picked sides (joined the liberals) which forced conservatives to launch it’s media (Rush and Fox) so we have a lot of bickering, but for now at least, one side does not dominate which is good. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/26/13 at 07:02:53 The reality is the government has lied to us and is responsible for millions of deaths ever since they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin attack. After that lie its just been one after another. Millions? really now, isn't that a bit of a stretch?.... |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/26/13 at 07:03:51 Wouldn't it be funny,... if the Right went totally... Tea Party... and Left went totally to the Occupy group... ... and the two major candidates were left out there,... hanging with their pants down... I think,... that's where we're goin'... wouldn't it be interesting if it really played out that way. What would be the outcome I wonder?... |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by srinath on 04/26/13 at 08:02:53 172522333425320D21322B400 wrote:
TEA co-opted by the Koch brothers and then attached to the republican party was all that kept the TEA alive. Occupy did not do that, and were rammed down by the gestapo (local cops). Neither of these 2 will survive on their own. The 2 party system is not under threat from either of these. I dont see a revolution happening really. Everytime I go to a public place - anything, a balloon festival, a fireworks display, any bloody thing ... and I see a long line @ a food stand, and no one watching the balloons or the fireworks I know nothing gonna happen. Seriously - we should go on a hunger strike ... everyday 9 am to 5 pm, and there will be breaks @ 10, and 11 for 10 mins for a snack, 12-1 is lunch,@ 2 and 3 10 min snack breaks and 4pm beer will be served. Yea hunger strike ... that'll show em. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/26/13 at 11:50:10 TEA co-opted by the Koch brothers and then attached to the republican party was all that kept the TEA alive. that is so wrong it's not even funny.... |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/26/13 at 12:59:48 5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:
Not if you count the enemy. Just in Iraq it was 50,000 a year. How many Viertnameese died from cancer from Agent Orange, not to mention bullets and bombs. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/26/13 at 13:32:40 I'm calling BS on the 50,000 figure..... I also have no idea how many died from agent orange and neither do you or anyone else (outside of God) for that matter. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Dane Allen on 04/26/13 at 16:26:26 1F2D2A3B3C2D3A05293A23480 wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Ho Chi Mihn, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Ayatolah Komainey (way mis-spelled), Khrushchev, Edi Amin and a many others helped a few people into the ground themselves. I am always amazed at how the U.S. is blamed for all deaths in the world that happen while a military conflict is happening somewhere in the world. Like the VC were protecting children from American aggressors... ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/26/13 at 23:42:19 I read (don't remember where that I read) 50,000 Iraqi's starved to death every year we were over there. Cant prove it right now, don't matter. That's not the point. If only 200 people died that's not the point. We were there and in Nam because we have a lying a$$ government who lied to get us stirred up and support wars for financial reasons. If that doesn't piss you off you're not human. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/26/13 at 23:45:45 7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
Its a very well known fact the Koch brothers financed the Tea Party meetings. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/27/13 at 00:09:35 "I’m not in favor of eliminating 2 party system or the electoral college." How many congressmen have voted against their conscience and not represented the people who elected them because they had to vote along party lines? You think they're doing a good job now? LMAO Something is either right or wrong, Congressmen should vote for whats right and what the people who elected them want. As far as the electoral college goes the majority should rule period. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/27/13 at 06:40:22 I read (don't remember where that I read) 50,000 Iraqi's starved to death every year we were over there. Cant prove it right now, don't matter. That's not the point. If only 200 people died that's not the point. That is the point! How can it not be the point? Okay, 100 million people a day die because they aren’t armed. Okay, it’s might be one, but that’s not the point…. We were there and in Nam because we have a lying a$$ government who lied to get us stirred up and support wars for financial reasons. If that doesn't piss you off you're not human. It doesn’t piss me off because I don’t believe it to be true. I understand human nature (perhaps better than you) so I get that people took financial advantages during war time, but do I believe Nixon, Bush etc… started a war knowing thousands of American kids would die just so they could make money? No, don’t believe that. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/27/13 at 06:52:08 "I’m not in favor of eliminating 2 party system or the electoral college." How many congressmen have voted against their conscience and not represented the people who elected them because they had to vote along party lines? Every single one at one time or another. You think they're doing a good job now? LMAO Something is either right or wrong, Congressmen should vote for whats right and what the people who elected them want. No. They are our representatives. We elect men and women whose judgments we trust and they are supposed to evaluate issues and make decisions they feel is best, not necessarily what their districts want. That’s a big difference. As far as the electoral college goes the majority should rule period. Oh yea? Ask the people living in Montana, Idaho, Alaska and other small states if they’d like the fact that New York, California and Florida make all their decisions for them. Here’s a classic case. In Missouri they had a statewide voter initiative on puppy mills. A new law about raising dogs. Now, the rural parts of the state said NO, this law is nonsense. The population centers of St. Louis and Kansas City voted in favor of it overwhelmingly so majority ruled and it passed. Problem was, the city folks who voted for it had no idea what it really said other than they thought it would protect those cute little puppies they saw in commercials. After a while, it became evident how the law would inject itself into the lives of farmers etc… who had more than 2 dogs of some such nonsense as that. The state legislators got together and passed a bill removing the law. It passed overwhelmingly the other way because each district got a vote and the rural districts outnumber the urban districts. It was the right thing to do. The city folks cried bloody murder for a while, but time has proven it was a stupid law. Majority rules sounds good, but in a large spreadout country like the US, it’s not such a good idea. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/27/13 at 11:10:17 5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:
The gulf of Tomkin was nothing but an outright lie lie to get us involved in a war we had no business fighting.. So was Iraq, out and out lie. No WMD's. Understand that and don't tell me you understand people better than I do. You dont have enough common sense to realize you're being lied to and taken for a ride all the time (if you want to call it thousands instead of millions) of innocents and American soldiers are dying unnecessarily. What was the point of starting these wars if it wasn't making money? All of them are based on government lies. Its been proven everything the government told us when they started these wars is a dam lie. You're so smart, what was the goverments motive? |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Pine on 04/29/13 at 13:23:44 I dont think there is any law mandating the "two party system". There are laws that certainly support it and surpress the abilty of any other party to get traction. I have voted neither democrat nor republician for president for over 20 years, but I do vote every election. TANSTAFL "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely." |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/29/13 at 14:47:36 695B5C4D4A5B4C735F4C553E0 wrote:
Why else would they put us in those wars. They were all started by lies that are provable. We weren't attacked. Give me a reason Mr Human Nature. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/29/13 at 14:54:56 I think the President and Congress at the time of those wars believed the USA has an important role to play in the world and at that time, we needed to intervene with force. Like I said, I do not believe a war has been started with the expressed purpose to make money for the President. I certainly believe Presidents have 'stretched the truth' to move their agenda forward; such as Roosevelt. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by bill67 on 04/29/13 at 15:22:28 6C55525948534E3C0 wrote:
True, And you can see it right here on Suzukisavage.com. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Dane Allen on 04/29/13 at 16:13:53 350700111607102F031009620 wrote:
Yeah, pretty much the opposite. And occupy was astroturf all the way. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/29/13 at 16:54:34 0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 wrote:
I guess its just a coincidence thingy Cheyney and Haliburton became overnight multi millionaires. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/29/13 at 19:30:47 they did NOT become millionaires overnight; where did you get that. Go back in time and tell me what company, other than Halliburton, could do the job the army asked a private company to do? Oh, by the way, didn't Cheney have to divest himself of all company stock? |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by srinath on 04/29/13 at 20:14:27 684D42496D404049422C0 wrote:
Yeah, pretty much the opposite. And occupy was astroturf all the way.[/quote] Dude Occupy was completely disjointed and was clueless ... for example Charlotte they protested Duke power and the banks ... like WTF ... and in asheville they wanted to legalize marijuana ... Nothing astroturf about it ... much like real grassroots organisations it was very localised. Charlotte Occupy locations were littered with pizza boxes and bagel boxes and coffee cups. Seriously man, we cant even protest something without breaking for lunch it looks like. It was toothless and incoherent ... but it was the real deal ... sounds pathetic ... but we are no arabs ... we cant even do a proper overthrow ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/29/13 at 20:31:52 Cheyney so called divested his stock gains but Haliburton claimed it as a loss. All the time he was in office he recieved anywhere from $160,000 to over $200,000 in deferred salary. Haliburton received many government contracts in Iraq and Katrina. I don't guess we'll ever know how many companies could do what Haliburton did because no one was allowed to bid against them. Cheney is one of the crookedest sons of bitches to ever inhabit the earth. Wonder how many overseas accounts he has from money under the table from Haliburton. Raw Story, October 2005 Title: “Cheney’s Halliburton Stock Options Rose 3,281 Percent Last Year, Senator Finds” Author: John Byrne Senator Frank Lautenberg’s website Title: “Cheney’s Halliburton Stock Options Soar to $9.2 Million” Faculty Evaluator: Phil Beard Student Researchers: Matthew Beavers and Willie Martin Vice President thingy Cheney’s stock options in Halliburton rose from $241,498 in 2004 to over $8 million in 2005, an increase of more than 3,000 percent, as Halliburton continues to rake in billions of dollars from no-bid/no-audit government contracts. An analysis released by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) reveals that as Halliburton’s fortunes rise, so do the Vice President’s. Halliburton has already taken more than $10 billion from the Bush-Cheney administration for work in Iraq. They were also awarded many of the unaccountable post-Katrina government contracts, as off-shore subsidiaries of Halliburton quietly worked around U.S. sanctions to conduct very questionable business with Iran (See Story #2). “It is unseemly,” notes Lautenberg, “for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his administration funnels billions of dollars to it.” According to the Vice President’s Federal Financial Disclosure forms, he holds the following Halliburton stock options: 100,000 shares at $54.5000 (vested), expire December 3, 2007 33,333 shares at $28.1250 (vested), expire December 2, 2008 300,000 shares at $39.5000 (vested), expire December 2, 2009 The Vice President has attempted to fend off criticism by signing an agreement to donate the after-tax profits from these stock options to charities of his choice, and his lawyer has said he will not take any tax deduction for the donations. However, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in September 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest” regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. Valued at over $9 million, the Vice President could exercise his stock options for a substantial windfall, not only benefiting his designated charities, but also providing Halliburton with a tax deduction. CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest. The Vice President continues to receive deferred salary from Halliburton. While in office, he has received the following salary payments from Halliburton: Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2001: $205,298 Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2002: $162,392 Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2003: $178,437 Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2004: $194,852 |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/30/13 at 05:05:24 all that means nothing. I don't believe Bush started a war to make his buddy rich. I don't believe even Obama who's the number one POS on the planet would do that. well... maybe Obama..... but no one else.... |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by bill67 on 04/30/13 at 06:00:31 If Romney would have won we would have already bombed Iran,N Korea,Syria adding to GWB's attacks.Were lucky we don't have another Hitler in office. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Paraquat on 04/30/13 at 06:13:08 2A2B3037382D31590 wrote:
That's part of what was great about the Occupy movement. Why should they be responsible for fixing someone else's problem? They didn't cause the problem, they are just upset about it. Do they have a plan to fix it? No, but neither does the other side. At least they're making their voices heard. As far as crediting them for individual things, like you suggest, you can't blame the entire group for a few people pushing their own agendas while masquerading under cover --Steve |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 07:53:57 First you acuse me of lying. Then I prove it to you, then you say it means nothing. Webster you're a real piece of work. Are you so naïve you actually believe wars arent fought over money? Money =power. Wars are fought for two reasons, religion or power. Billions are made fighting war. Get your nose out of the Wall St Journal and find out whats really going on! Even the civil war was fought over money. My poor ancestors didn't have slaves but they fought for the rich slave owners. There's huge profits being made off of materials to fight wars and evil men like Cheyney take advantage of it by promoting lies. This isn't a 3rd grade Sunday School Class, this is the REAL world. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by bill67 on 04/30/13 at 09:03:42 I was told back in 1963 when I was in the army,That immigrants get 5 years here without having to pay income tax.So they get a chance to get started.If its still true which I don't know,But then why don't Americans get 5 years when they get out of school have same benefit. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/30/13 at 09:10:24 Easy there Midnight; I’m not calling you a liar. You are approaching this from the point of view that Bush and Cheney knowingly lied to start a war for the sole purpose of making money. I do not believe that to be true. And yes, I do not believe wars are fought primarily over money. Now if you expand your definition of money to include protecting a way of life, I would agree with you. In that “ way of life”, some are wealthy, some are not. You think WWI was over money? I don’t think so. It was fought over, in this case, changing the ‘way of life’. WWII was fought to preserve a way of life. Half the people on this forum are so caught up in how other people live, how much money they make, it’s disturbing. Live your own life and forget about thingy Cheney’s wallet. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by bill67 on 04/30/13 at 09:16:17 Then thingy should forget my wallet,The Republican congressmen want to do away with SS,Why because most of them were born in a rich family so they were born with Security. If there wasn't SS then I lot of people would be on welfare once they retired. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 09:27:20 Changing their way of life and power are basically the same thing, just different words. If I force you to live like me its power. Why are we in the middle east? Oil, money and power. If there were no oil there we could care less. Cheyney's lies upset me a lot more than his pocketbook. I have several millionaire friends who love to hang out with me because we grew up together the same way. I'm glad they're very successful and they worked hard and were smart and deserve what they have like Jerry E. When you have to lie like Cheyney did to become an overnight millionaire and innocent people are maimed and murdered I get riled. I wouldn't take Cheyney's blood stained money if he give it to me. I don't have much but what I've got I worked for it honestly and lied to no one. There was no real evidence of WMDs and Cheyney and his cohorts knew it. The fact that no one was allowed to bid on government contracts except Haliburton proves beyond doubt it was Cheyneys baby, it was all about the money.They're war criminals and should be treated as such. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by srinath on 04/30/13 at 09:56:23 444F4A4A1011260 wrote:
No no no hell no. Not even close. However when I arrived in the US for the first 3-4 years I made a pitifully small amount of $$$ ... both cos I was living in cheap and small cities like Temple PA and Spokane WA - an apt cost under 350 ... and cos I was starting out and income taxes were progressive ... I managed to pay say 13-14% cos I barely budged the needle beyond the poverty line. In a way ... I had a job ... something very similar to what a fresh grad would have, I lived like one and paid tax like one. The harrowing part was the possibility that if I was fired/laid off I'd have to leave the country in 30 days or find a new job that was willing to file the employment papers for me. I used to when laid off have my belongings I would take with me packed and ready to go as well as reservations for tickets ... I got close a few times to having to leave ... but squeaked through. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by WebsterMark on 04/30/13 at 10:09:17 No sir. Let’s say we are being invaded. You own a company that makes a product the army needs to use in order to fight off the invasion. Are you saying we stand by and get over run because you stand to make a huge financial gain? I don’t think so. People make money in war the same way roofers make money in hurricanes. Also, if there were no oil, we couldn’t care less. Of course that’s true. Take oil away from the US and see how quick you change your tune. Cheyney did to become an overnight millionaire Cheney did not become an overnight millionaire. I’m not sure where you are getting this information. When you say there was no evidence of WMD and cheney and his cohorts knew it, you are including tens of thousands of employees of intelligence agencies all across the world. For whatever reason, you seem to think Cheney tricked half the world into believing in WMD so he could make some money. This just isn’t true. If you are going to charge Cheney with war crimes, I suggest you charge most of the US Congress as well including John Kerry, Hiliary Clinton etc…. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 10:41:42 I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Cheney was in it for the money because no other bids were accepted but Haliburtons. I don't care who you wanna try for war crimes as long as they are guilty which I've proven Cheney is. If you can prove Hillary and Kerry are guilty go for it my friend. Right now if Obama were to fly a war drone up that little midgets a$$ in North Korea it'll be alright with me. He's directly threatened us. To me that's a call for war. I hate, hate, hate war but sometimes its the only way out, ex WWll. We were attacked. The Pubs are threatening to impeach Obama over this mess in Syria. I haven't had time to read up on it and try to understand whats going on yet. Its one mess after another over there and its all about greed and money. We have enough oil to run our own country but we can make more money selling it to Japan and other countries. That's why I'm against the Keystone Pipeline. Besides the envireomental damage most of the oil will be sold overseas. Almost all the oil out of Alaska goes overseas. Yet the government is subsidizing the oil companies. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to get our troops home and mind our own business. No country in their right mind will attack us, we'll always have terrorist, foreign and domestic but they will lessen if we mind our own business. If we do that and take care of our own there will be nothing to fight about. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Dane Allen on 04/30/13 at 11:46:37 4E4F54535C49553D0 wrote:
Yeah, pretty much the opposite. And occupy was astroturf all the way.[/quote] Dude Occupy was completely disjointed and was clueless ... for example Charlotte they protested Duke power and the banks ... like WTF ... and in asheville they wanted to legalize marijuana ... Nothing astroturf about it ... much like real grassroots organisations it was very localised. Charlotte Occupy locations were littered with pizza boxes and bagel boxes and coffee cups. Seriously man, we cant even protest something without breaking for lunch it looks like. It was toothless and incoherent ... but it was the real deal ... sounds pathetic ... but we are no arabs ... we cant even do a proper overthrow ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] No, it was all astroturf, the media were looking for a marxist popular group to counter the astounding success of the Tea Party and Occupy was all they could come up with. Remember Jourolist??? The unbiased media's secret super bias list of likeminded marxists to do everything in their power to throw the election for Obama? |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by Dane Allen on 04/30/13 at 11:49:30 2D26232379784F0 wrote:
Yes, the liberal Massachussetts governor would have been the next Hitler. ;D ;D ;D Obama is WAY MORE liberal than Romney so is he a Super Hitler??? ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by bill67 on 04/30/13 at 11:58:56 Which country did we attack since Obama been president.Iraq didn't say they were going to attack us,Like N. Korea, and Iran is trying to scare us. |
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Title: Re: Oh hell no.... Post by srinath on 04/30/13 at 16:14:17 24010E05210C0C050E600 wrote:
Oooo you're at this point afraid of your own shadow aren't ya ... Media created occupy ? What the F is Jourolist ... I guess I dont remember it, cos I never heard of it. I thought you were webby light ... I was wrong you're actually JOG light. Dude Occupy was true grass roots ... each city had their BS pathetic version ... no billionaire (or 2 billionaires) funded them like the TEA ... and made the TEA into an astounding success ... TEA was a success cos it sold out. Ron Paul started what is now considered the original TEA ... he wants nothing to do with it now. Grover Norqvist and Koch brothers have their party ... TEA party. Cool. Srinath. |
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