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Title: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by gdrseeker on 04/23/13 at 20:23:26 So I picked up a parts bike and it has a chain conversion. I am thinking about using it on my bike, but I have a few questions. What are the benefits of a chain conversion? What are the disadvantages of a chain conversion? What do I need to look for ...number of teeth, length of chain, number of links? |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/23/13 at 20:43:58 Theres a long thread on this in the Tech section. Barry Hutchinson pioneered this & at least one guy did it also, at the same time, so, you see them talking back & forth about it as they puzzle thru. I Hope Im remembering how that went right. I know its in Tech, tho & Barry was definitely in there on it. Barry passed away about the middle of last year, so, he wont be able to answer questions. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by gdrseeker on 04/23/13 at 21:17:05 Thanks JOG I will see what I can find. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/23/13 at 21:22:29 Holler back if ya get stumped. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by jjn on 04/24/13 at 01:08:52 Well, I think belts are great. My 2006 XL883 had a belt. No noise. No chain oil thrown all over. They seem to hold adjustment forever. Drawbacks are you can't easily change the gearing. I honestly don't know which robs more horsepower between a chain or belt. The only plus I see to a chain and sprockets is that it is way eaiser ti change the gearing. Others will add to this I'm sure. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Oldfeller on 04/24/13 at 02:09:47 I bought a chain set, and after 5 years sold it because I could never see a reason to install it. Chains require lubing and maintenance -- belts do not. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by jcstokes on 04/24/13 at 03:37:48 Chain conversion thread is on page 2 of the tech section near the bottom. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by paulmarshall on 04/24/13 at 11:55:31 2020244A0 wrote:
I use a clear silicon chain lube. Its clear and sticks to the chain like glue. No problems with oil flying everywhere . My rear wheel shines like new. :D Will post a photo of product soon |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by paulmarshall on 04/24/13 at 14:45:52 Spectra Chain Wax is what I use. And it sticks like wax.Clear wax. Ride it for 20 min to heat the chain before application works best. http://www.colemans-suzuki.co.nz/products/700-z_darbis/2471-spectro_sx_chain_wax.aspx |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by gdrseeker on 04/25/13 at 08:14:33 So other than lube are there other maintinence issues? The conversion looks easy enough to do I guess I could try it and see what I think. I will have to do some research first. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Dave on 04/25/13 at 08:32:01 If you install longer shocks like the RYCA does, there can be an issue with the chain contacting the top of the swing arm at the pivot point. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/13 at 09:29:27 Every rose has its thorn. YOu get to decide a bit more about how its geared. You have a whole new set of maintenance issues. Sprockets & chains wear. Time spent babying it that wouldnt need spent on a belt. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by apache snow on 04/25/13 at 09:34:44 I rode motorcycles for years that had a chain. The chain lubing is the easy part. Chains and sprockets wear and they don't always wear evenly. This causes the chain to have loose and tight places as the wheel rotates. When this happens it is really hard to adjust the chain. Then you have to get a new chain. I won't have another motorcycle that has a chain if I can help it. (and I can) |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by paulmarshall on 04/25/13 at 12:13:49 I needed a chain so I could run my 170 on the back. ;) Clocked up over 5000km on this badboy. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Cavi Mike on 04/25/13 at 19:59:12 Factual benefits are length and gearing choices. Arguable benefit is better performance. Opinionated benefit is better aesthetics. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Oldfeller on 04/26/13 at 09:54:26 Let's debate that performance benefit a wee little bitty bit. Yes, it changes the top speed in each gear, but you can't top out in 5th gear right now due to lack of HP now when using the old stock belt drive. So, going chain drive now, now you can't top out in fourth gear now due to the same lack of HP? Is that really a performance benefit? You don't ever go any faster ..... you go the same speed one gear down. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Cavi Mike on 04/26/13 at 13:53:16 I'm not talking about gaining performance from gearing. Ratio for ratio it's arguable that a chain offers less resistance and therefore transfers more power than a belt. We had this debate in another thread. I argued that it's better for performance, others argued that there's no difference. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by gdrseeker on 04/26/13 at 21:13:46 See now it is getting interesting this is what I was wondering about. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by WD on 04/26/13 at 21:56:47 Chain and sprockets look better than belt, pulleys and stock covers. Helps knock off some of the "modern" from the bike. Best reason from my viewpoint to make the switch. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Cavi Mike on 04/27/13 at 04:59:47 We already had the discussion about performance of belt vs chain in another thread titled belt vs chain. A simple search would have brought that result up. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1355555789/0 |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by gdrseeker on 04/27/13 at 08:23:45 Thanks for posting the link I just had not gotten around to searching yet. Now that I have looked at the discussions and the Tec Section stuff I have decided to stay with the BELT. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by LANCER on 04/27/13 at 09:26:07 3625610 wrote:
Yep, that it does. I like the older look of the '50's era singles. I would love a '50's model truck of any make if I can get one for reasonable $$$. Flat Head V-8's are my first choice; after that the 300 straight 6 Ford used for so long as a drop in engine. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by WD on 04/27/13 at 17:30:45 Bring cash, there's a 57 Ford where we're going for BBQ one night... |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Cavi Mike on 04/28/13 at 22:58:26 6370340 wrote:
I love the irony of that. Drive belts are older than roller chains but since they're cheaper to manufacture, they've been replacing the chain that once replaced them. |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Serowbot on 04/28/13 at 23:21:10 Me likey da' belt... I think it looks bada$$ phat back there... |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by WD on 04/28/13 at 23:28:51 1E3C2B34103436385D0 wrote:
I love the irony of that. Drive belts are older than roller chains but since they're cheaper to manufacture, they've been replacing the chain that once replaced them.[/quote] Flat leather segmented belts to roller chains to cogged belts... it IS kind of funny... |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by 87 savage on 04/29/13 at 01:38:29 4355425F47525F44300 wrote:
+1 and I think the belt is quieter. :) |
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Title: Re: What are the benefits of a chain conversion? Post by Dave on 04/29/13 at 04:36:00 29242A2D3A3C797F7170480 wrote:
+1 and I think the belt is quieter. :)[/quote] I like the belt from the side.....but I don't like the fact that the left shock is moved out a couple of inches. On the stock bike they have hidden the offset pretty well.....but on the Bobber or RYCA conversions it looks odd from the rear. Changing the belt to a chain doesn't fix this....unless ou start cutting the fame and swingarm to get rid of that offset. I think my new right side license plate mount will hide the offset a bit. |
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