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Title: Gasoline Grades Post by savagerider87 on 04/23/13 at 16:33:26 What seems to be the preferred grade of gas for the Savage? I have filled up a total of three times since I registered my bike last week, each time switching grades of gas (regular, super, and mid grade). is there any preferred gas brand and grade that anyone uses? I live in the northern part of upstate NY, we have Mobil, Shell, Sunoco And Irving stations. input is appreciated :) |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by arteacher on 04/23/13 at 16:43:46 Unless you have put a high compression piston in it just use regular. Anything else is a waste of money, and regular is fresher gas anyway, as it is replaced in the stations underground tanks more often. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Gyrobob on 04/23/13 at 16:58:45 242F2F262A25243E3F4B0 wrote:
This is one of the few times I can completely support something arteacher said. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/23/13 at 18:57:38 Ive seen one differing position that made sense to me. Reelthing said on the hottest of days he will run premium, because it goes off slower & he thinks it mite just result in a slightly cooler top end. Otherwise, regular. I think it would be interesting to run a few bikes down the road together & see how they compare with all on regular, then swap some to premium & run some more miles & see if theres any difference. Me? Ima run Ray Guller.. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by savagerider87 on 04/23/13 at 19:15:07 7D6264637E7948784870626E25170 wrote:
that would be both pretty interesting and really cool. The only thing is that there aren't many savages around my neck of the woods.... the closest is v pilot who is about 150-160 miles away from where I live.... |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Cavi Mike on 04/23/13 at 19:43:07 7D6264637E7948784870626E25170 wrote:
That's not a "position" that's an opinion and it's wrong. If that guy is having problems on hot days it's because he's got his bike tuned wrong. I love how people with engines that barely rev to 5,000 rpm think a slower or faster burning fuel is going to make some sort of difference. F1 engines spin at 20,000 rpm. Your measly 5,000 rpm could be burning wax and it wouldn't make a difference. Octane is resistance to detonation and that's it. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by 12Bravo on 04/23/13 at 19:43:34 Every time I have tried 91 octane or higher, my S40 pings and runs like crap. I stick with plain old 87 octane and she runs fine. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by 45acp on 04/23/13 at 19:49:14 i like shell gas stations. i dont know about ny, but here in ok they dont use ethanol in their gas. at least they say they dont :) |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/23/13 at 20:46:23 537166795D797B75100 wrote:
That's not a "position" that's an opinion and it's wrong. If that guy is having problems on hot days it's because he's got his bike tuned wrong. I love how people with engines that barely rev to 5,000 rpm think a slower or faster burning fuel is going to make some sort of difference. F1 engines spin at 20,000 rpm. Your measly 5,000 rpm could be burning wax and it wouldn't make a difference. Octane is resistance to detonation and that's it.[/quote] Hey,, your attitude is crappy,, take your all knowingness & stuff it where the sun dont shine, I just said what HE said, dont get all snotty with me,., |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Dave on 04/24/13 at 03:50:12 The Savage is low rpm, low compression, low hp........it is made to run on regular. Using a higher octane fuel will have no benefit. Higher Octane fuel does not burn cooler, it does not burn slower, it does not make more HP in a Savage......higher Octane fuels are more resistant to detonation when compression raties are increased. To realize the benefits of higher octane you need to increase compression ratios, and maybe change the timing. Engines that use higher Octane fuels are more aggressive in the engine design to take advantage of the extra power that higher compression ratios can deliver. Running a higher octane in a Savage is not going to hurt anything but your wallet.......but it is not going to make your engine run any stronger if the compression ratio has not been increased. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by arteacher on 04/24/13 at 06:15:06 0F313A272A272A480 wrote:
This is one of the few times I can completely support something arteacher said.[/quote] I'm flattered. What were the other times? ;) |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Routy on 04/24/13 at 06:40:19 Quote: Every time I have tried 91 octane or higher, my S40 pings ---------------------------------------------------------------- Huh, ??? If its pinging on 91, its stretching the headbolts on 87 !!! |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by WD on 04/24/13 at 07:41:28 Alcohol free regular if the station happens to have it, plain old 87 octane from whoever carries it the cheapest if I'm not near a station that carries pure instead of blended fuel. Mine always ran best on: Dixie brand alcohol free in Mississippi, Chevron the first time I lived in TN (only gas station on my commute at the time), Arco in WA unless I could get my hands on alcohol free (scarce). Now that I'm in TN again, I use the alcohol free from the farm co-op, swipe it from the cans for our small engined equipment/implements. Bike hasn't been road licensed since 10/2011. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by apache snow on 04/24/13 at 07:46:02 http://pure-gas.org/ |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Gyrobob on 04/24/13 at 15:24:59 202B2B222E21203A3B4F0 wrote:
This is one of the few times I can completely support something arteacher said.[/quote] I'm flattered. What were the other times? ;)[/quote] You said something nasty about bill. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by bill67 on 04/24/13 at 15:40:00 63716671777562797475622827100 wrote:
Your motorcycle will run slightly cooler and have slightly less power with the super grade gasoline. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Charon on 04/24/13 at 16:07:41 7D76737329281F0 wrote:
Your motorcycle will run slightly cooler and have slightly less power with the super grade gasoline.[/quote] And of course, you have dyno runs in support of that statement? |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Dave on 04/24/13 at 17:11:29 765D54475A5B350 wrote:
Your motorcycle will run slightly cooler and have slightly less power with the super grade gasoline.[/quote] And of course, you have dyno runs in support of that statement? [/quote] No....Billl doesn't believe in facts.....only his opinion. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Dane Allen on 04/24/13 at 17:19:30 697B6C7B7D7F68737E7F68222D1A0 wrote:
I know the search doesn't work for everyone but you seriously couldn't locate the last octane-fight thread?? They come around every month or so!! And read the stickies at the top of the forum categories!! Asking for opinions on oil, gas, tire pressure, chrome polish, dealerships, etc., I have learned, can only end in fire!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Gyrobob on 04/25/13 at 03:03:33 Dave said, "No....Billl doesn't believe in facts.....only his opinion. " Do you really need to remind us of this yet again? My opinion is that your opinion of bill's opinions is a valid opinion. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by ToesNose on 04/25/13 at 04:26:50 1628233E333E33510 wrote:
+1 ;) |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by Dave on 04/25/13 at 04:42:33 7749425F525F52300 wrote:
I am hoping that Bill will get the hint.....and stop posting opinions in the RSD, and only post facts. |
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Title: Re: Gasoline Grades Post by bill67 on 04/25/13 at 05:15:41 I'm suprised you guys didn't know that,But I see you guys are from the south. |
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