SuzukiSavage.com /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> The Cafe >> Got helmet?... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366703966 Message started by Serowbot on 04/23/13 at 00:59:26

Title: Got helmet?... Post by Serowbot on 04/23/13 at 00:59:26 Cycle Gear has BiLT FF helmets on sale, starting at $49.99 for the plain Jane FF... $59.99 for fancy colors... and even a modular FF for $69.99... If you've been thinkin' about switching to a FF... or if yer' old one is getting nasty... that's quite a deal... ...an FF saved my face 3 years ago...   I'd consider running over mine, just to get a shiny new one,... but, mine's crash tested... and we have bonded emotionally... Plus,... it would probably kill my car... :-?... Anyway,.. no excuse for not having full melon protection... Remember,.. your brain is your second most important organ... Even if you've never been able to adjust to an FF.... Here's one, cheap enough to play with... There are advantages and disadvantages to full coverage helmets... but, those only matter pre-accident ... :-?... Be safe, Serow

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 04/23/13 at 03:03:29 Serowbot, I sure hope you ain't still using the helmet that you had your accident in. If so you're playing with fire. It has been well established that after a wreck you should replace the helmet. Once it has hit the deck with that kind of force though it doesn't look like it it no longer has it's crash integrity. I would replace it asap.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by raydawg on 04/23/13 at 03:29:32 I know this rider who gossips a lot.....are the TF models on sale too?  ::)

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by ToesNose on 04/23/13 at 04:38:09 Serow if your helmet took a good enough hit that it actually saved your life REPLACE IT! The foam part of the helmet is made for one-time use unless it is made with EPP foam (even if it was made with EPP foam you are still rolling the dice) after crushing the foam once it is no longer as protective as it was, even if the shell looks to be intact. The thin shell is made to flex and keep everything in it's place as well as act as exterior armor, the foam inside which is the impact absorber could be completely compacted or cracked loosing it's functionality without you knowing at all.  If the foam is compacted and you take an impact in the same area it will not protect you properly, if it is cracked it will just break apart upon the next impact giving little or no protection. Some manufacturers will take the helmet back and inspect it for you, if found defective due to the crash some will even give you a credit or sell you a replacement at a reduced profit. Always replace a crashed helmet if you value it's protection

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Serowbot on 04/23/13 at 08:45:04 Naa,.. total body hit to the left side, then skidded  on hands and knees... the helmet just skidded along the pavement face first...no impact, just abrasion.. ruined the face-shield entirely.... no structural damage or foam compression... Still,.. glad it wasn't my face... http://p1.bikepics.com/2008%5C09%5C06%5Cbikepics-1408766-full.jpg Biga bada boom :-?... http://p1.bikepics.com/2008%5C09%5C23%5Cbikepics-1427612-full.jpg

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by apache snow on 04/23/13 at 09:12:08 Yeah, I believe the you gotta replace the helmet after the slightest bump is from the people who SELL helmets. Thats pretty much self serving. I got a helmet out in the garage thats 43 years old. Its never been in a crash but I don't wear it. I keep it just because. :)

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by WD on 04/23/13 at 09:21:09 I've got a cork lined one in the attic. Snell 1968 approved 1/2 helmet. Conversation piece at best, some kind of uncomfortable to wear. My 87 year old father in law has a Bell helmet from the early 70s, he still uses it if he insists on going for a ride. As a passenger, since I keep refusing to fix the CL100 for him, he ruined it with a CB spec low mount pipe and a windshield, plus a big dork mobile crash bar... Mandatory full face helmets is why I don't vintage race. I have a period correct TT type bike, that would be really easy to put back on the track, but not going to bother. Can't stand full face helmets.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by apache snow on 04/23/13 at 13:45:39 Dang, they ran over your Sportster. Now that ain't right. :(

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Pine on 04/24/13 at 07:59:30 Thanks.. The web site is flakey on my PC.. not sure whats up with that. Stack overflow errors.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by groupus on 04/26/13 at 11:55:32 I personally would not ride without a full face, experience has taught me that. http://p1.bikepics.com/2010/06/21/bikepics-2003420-800.jpg I actually just started another thread were i mentioned my new helmet, but I'll bring it up here again. I "used" the HJC above on 2 separate occasions, the last of which broke the visor hardware. I've been using a 20 year old undersized shoei for a while but finally decided to get a real replacement. I got a KBC for $44 plus shipping (free shipping over $89) everyone seems to recommend getting a size larger b/c they are a bit snug, but it seems to be a great helmet so far! http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/67/905/38243/ITEM/KBC-VR-Helmet.aspx

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by WD on 04/26/13 at 15:12:34 I'll suffer the indignity of a 3/4 when it is bitter cold out. If I NEED a full face helmet, I'll take the truck.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by shovelbum87 on 05/11/13 at 11:23:45 I struggle to understand how people dont take their helmets seriously. Maybe its just because they have not been touched by a brain injury but seriously guys! Put on a helmet, it could save your family from having to spoon feed you for the rest of your life. I know I sound reduculous but I will get off my soap box now and will only say one more thing... Got a $5 head, get a $5 helmet. Its not you its them! four wheelers are blind!

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Serowbot on 05/11/13 at 12:58:29 5C4740594A434D5A4217182F0 wrote: Got a $5 head, get a $5 helmet. Ya hear that JOG... we're way over-spending... ;D...

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by shovelbum87 on 05/11/13 at 18:39:26 Serowbot; you have already saved me at least $5 I will let you have a $10 one just cause Im feeling nice today!

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by jcstokes on 05/11/13 at 21:19:57 Regardless of emotional bonding, you really must replace your helmet. You can mount the old one on a gold plated plinth and the helmet will love you for treating it like an old soldier who hasn't died and isn't fading away.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Jiggyfly on 05/11/13 at 23:01:05 I think that Sporty will buff right out!  :D I wont jump on a helmet soapbox. People are going to do what they want.....& they should. No one will read a post on this forum about helmets & go, "holy nuts! You're right, I should do XYZ in terms of a helmet!" No one. Now if there's a jetting, or tire, or battery question.....they'll jump all over that bandwagon. But they know all about landing on their head. (Most of whom, thankfully, never have!) Now go to a racing oriented forum, where safety gear is put to the absolute test.....& people listen as if its jetting or tire info. (Now tire info is a differently hotly debated topic, there! Lol) It's practically sad to me, however, when people wear an open face helmet. Logic, & statistics dictate what you will impact first in a collision. Do what you do.......& ride on.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Serowbot on 05/11/13 at 23:44:19 Yup,.. I started this post, to point out a pretty good bargain on a FF helmet... My accident, would have hurt my face pretty bad,... but, I was inside that helmet... and it really wasn't an impact to the helmet... just a glancing blow across the faceshield... This didn't hurt the "helmet" portion at all... just the faceshield and lower air vent...  (if it had been my tender flesh, I'm sure there would have been stitches, and scarring, and maybe some reduction in noseical dimension )... but, it was purely a slide, contacting the shield... ...(something of a facial surf)... ;D... Helmet fully in tact... The real impact was to my left side, mostly shoulder, ribs, and hip... then I was thrown a bit, and slid, with the facial contact... If I weren't sure, I'd have replaced it... but it was only a few weeks old, and it got a new shield, and a tiiny touch-up paint (that made fangs), on the lower air vent... I love the fangs, and they just came up accidentally from the touch-up... ... but,.. it is getting "long in the tooth" at this point... Helmet is about 3 years old now... I'll be on the hunt... soon... My face is nothing to brag about,.. but, it could be worse... I'll protect what I've got... The lesson is... skin can't take even the gentlest contact with rolling pavement... that stuff just don't budge... ...even a pie plate, between your face and the asphalt would make a huge difference in the rest of your life...if you are going to slide a few feet... You just can't be that fast with a pie plate... ;D... The brain bucket, just didn't enter the equation in this crash... ...Non FF fans... If you could imagine,.. just for second,... even just running as fast as you can... then diving down, and using your face as a brake on the asphalt,...   You're seeing the lucky side of a bike wreck... It happens very, very fast... (replays are in slow-mo, and they go on for weeks)... I'm glad I had my face covered...

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 05/12/13 at 10:11:30 I'm still a fan of the 3/4.  My main reason is peripheral vision that is so much better than with a FF. As a pilot, I spent years wearing the standard issue 3/4 type military helmet with a full visor over the face when desired, as they can be pulled down over the face, or pushed up to expose the face. The reason the military uses 3/4 is vision, and peripheral vision primarily. You can't avoid the accident that you can't see.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by ToesNose on 05/12/13 at 12:54:12 My FF gives me the same peripheral vision as any 3/4 helmet I've ever owned  ;)

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Jiggyfly on 05/12/13 at 15:45:06 oh, the die hards will always have some reason! Lol While true, that you can't avoid what you can't see.....what percentage of times do you think you'll "avoid" it? What about the course that your avoiding actions take you on? Yeah, maybe you avoided impact, but now you're headed at XYZ. If more peripheral was needed, or you could really benefit from it, companies would be implementing it! A company like Arai or Shuberth or Shoei doesn't make helmets year after year the same.....there is serious R&D that is being tried all the time. & chances are, that if you caught it in your peripheral that is close, & you wouldn't avoid it. Not just my $.02, but an entire industry's.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Serowbot on 05/12/13 at 16:09:25 I tried a Shoei that limited my vision... ,but a fish could use my HJC... Try them on,... many have the same view range as a 3/4...

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Jiggyfly on 05/12/13 at 16:34:55 Yes, some are better than others, for sure! At one point, about 10 years ago, I had a chance to pick up some "sponsorship" from Suomy. I tried them, & turned them down. Are they a "bad" helmet? Hell no! They make top notch stuff! Best paint/graphics in the biz! Great vision opening.....but it just wasnt comfortable! It just didn't fit my dome! To the point it was uncomfortable. Not comfy? Can't wear......sorry.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/12/13 at 17:13:03 I impact tested an HJC modular. Dented the cab corner of a small pickup. Folded in enough to split a lip. 2 stitches worth. The latch held & still worked. The strap was pressed into my throat so hard I was still feeling it when I swallowed about 3 weeks later. I went & got another one,, because I trust them. & Im not about to use one after such a whoopin,.

Title: Re: Got helmet?... Post by Jiggyfly on 05/12/13 at 20:47:08 ^ Unfortunate real world test. Imagine impact without it!?

SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2! YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved.