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Title: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by pcollins on 04/21/13 at 12:10:08 Got arrested for wreckless driving. My speedo read 90mph... trooper claims he clocked me at 120mph. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/13 at 12:40:46 I'd have to NEVER again say the speedo read 90 And demand to see the lasdt calibration on the radar gun. Contest that, unless you were downhill at a scary angle, you didnt see 120, |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by ToesNose on 04/21/13 at 12:41:31 Well I'd say you have a good defense at least........I'm not sure there are more then a handful of heavily modified LS650's that anyone would even attempt to do 120 on :o |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Charon on 04/21/13 at 12:45:05 5A494546464344592A0 wrote:
Few people get arrested for "wreckless" driving. Most of the time it is for "reckless" driving. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by 45acp on 04/21/13 at 12:47:06 i got mine up to 80mph yesterday and it was feeling a little wobbly. 120mph nooooooooooooo way. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by paulmarshall on 04/21/13 at 13:22:48 90 is bloody good. What mods have you done? P.S. Sorry to hear you got arrested. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by bill67 on 04/21/13 at 13:54:00 220900130E0F610 wrote:
Few people get arrested for "wreckless" driving. Most of the time it is for "reckless" driving.[/quote] Glad you cleared that up I was really confused.In fact you clear up a lot of things for us. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by verslagen1 on 04/21/13 at 13:56:24 To show 90 and being 120 you'd have to a chain conversion and high gearing. Have your speedo calibrated by AAA to be sure. Or find someone to run up to 60 with you and video the speedo readings. And you shouldn't be running downhill in a tailwind like that. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by rfw2003 on 04/21/13 at 14:01:55 Not to mention if your still belt driven, you would have blow the engine sky high to reach 120mph R.F. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Serowbot on 04/21/13 at 14:18:01 With stock gearing 120mph, would be 8,000 rpm... Our bikes won't do 6500 redline in 5th gear... ... plus our speedo's overate speed... 90mph,.. would actually be less than 85... Troopy is exaggerating... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by houstonbofh on 04/21/13 at 14:19:26 It should not be hard to prove that it was mechanically impossible to be going 120 so the radar was in error or someone else. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by jcstokes on 04/21/13 at 15:37:01 According to the experienced people on this forum, the stock machine is only good for about 87-90 mph, although the handbook mentions 100 mph at 6500. Sounds like a Ministry of Petty Prosecutions revenue collector is trying to generate more money for his state. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by pcollins on 04/21/13 at 17:04:06 Once I figure out how to blurr out my personal info, I'll attach a copy of the arrest report. Think I'm going to frame it. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by pcollins on 04/21/13 at 17:05:09 Stock 2007 LS650. No mods. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by verslagen1 on 04/21/13 at 17:12:19 Then it's practically impossible for you to have been going 120. and you were going 90 on a stock bike is about the limit. you might try those ticket clinic lawyers if there's a trick they call pull to get it thrown out, they will. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by rfw2003 on 04/21/13 at 17:18:07 54474B48484D4A57240 wrote:
Scan it in or take a photo of it, then use MS Paint to draw a thick black line over your personal info. Easy as pie. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by srinath on 04/21/13 at 17:57:22 Did the cop tell you you were doing 120, but he'd only write you up for 90 cos he's such a nice guy ? If so, you'd really really have a hard time beating the 90 mph speeding/reckless ticket. However if he wrote you up for 120, easy and all these suggestions above are good. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/13 at 19:46:15 45565A59595C5B46350 wrote:
It Should be "framed",, you were |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/13 at 19:47:20 Take it & have it dyno'ed.. show the judge it cant get to 120 |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by old_rider on 04/21/13 at 19:59:36 Get a good lawyer, hire a professional driver, take the judge to the track and prove it cannot be done....then sue the hell out of the city. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by jcstokes on 04/21/13 at 21:52:38 Might pay to see if Suzuki Japan and/or Suzuki America think it's possible , but if you were exceeding a posted limit it might be hard to sue hell out of the city or state. Send the judge to an MSF? course if he can't ride and then let him/her attempt it. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Serowbot on 04/21/13 at 22:25:51 I swear,.. I've seen somewhere, a somewhat "official" top speed of 88mph stated for a stock Savage... Also,.. a chart listing specs and performance for a variety of tested bikes, showing the Savage not capable of 0-100mph times... I searched, and can't locate it now... but, if anyone can find such info post a link... Bringing a few, or even just one such piece of evidence to court, will beat this charge... You don't have to prove you were doing 90mph... just that you couldn't possibly have been doing 120mph... ... and the whole thing will be thrown out... So,.. don't even admit that you were speeding... just prove you couldn't have been going 120mph... Those numbers are out there, on the net... You/we just need to find them... :-?... ...(So very odd,... trying to prove that my bike can't do 100mph)... ... but, it can't... and I've tried... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by old_rider on 04/21/13 at 23:05:22 323B2B2C37333D2B580 wrote:
I'd be sueing them for extortion... pay the fee for top speed bike can do over the limit, the case against the city for extoring monies illegally from its citizens would probably get the ticket reduced or dropped and a little cash on the side to keep your mouth shut or for the heart attack it almost caused you to have when you seen the 120mph ticket. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by old_rider on 04/21/13 at 23:20:00 Print out website specs... http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/buyersguide/Suzuki-L650S-Savage.htm http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suzuki_ls_650_p_savage_1997.php http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/suzuki/2010-suzuki-boulevard-s40-ar43852.html At least get it thrown out of court, because the bike simply can't go that fast. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by 12Bravo on 04/22/13 at 06:20:19 All good advice about printing out the specs. I hit 95 once on my S40 on level ground but that was with a good tail wind. I got pulled over while on my Suzuki Burgman 650 and was told by the officer that I was doing 95mph. I looked at my bike and then to the officer and asked if he really believed that I was going 95 on a scooter. He shook his head and let me go without a ticket. By the way, the Burgman 650 is capable of going over 100mph ;D |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by mpescatori on 04/22/13 at 08:28:49 I checked on the websites suggested and it seems my 1988 4-sp. is only declared good for 27HP and 127Km/h, that's 79 mph... The later S40 5-sp is declared good for 32HP and some 94 mph... But methinks those are theoretical speeds obtained with a pocket calculator (i.e. top gear at max rpms) not on a test track. There's no way a bike with only 32HP and pull-back handlebars could reach 97 mph... :-X much less 120 mph... HEY ! IDEA ! Ask and High School physics teacher how much HP you would need to push the bike to 120mph, he'll do some maths and declare... 47HP, or whatever, which MUST be higher than 32. The bike only has 32, so it's scientifically impossible it could have been clocked at 120 ! Anyway, the point is to debunk the 120 mph charge, not to "make a deal" for 90... ;) |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/22/13 at 10:06:19 Anyway, the point is to debunk the 120 mph charge, not to "make a deal" for 90... Read & repeat till it is 100% ingrained in your brain,, |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by MiCTLaN on 04/22/13 at 10:34:29 594451475755405B465D340 wrote:
That. Exactly that. Admit nothing other than the fact that it is literally impossible for your motorcycle to break 100mph, let alone 120. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Dave on 04/22/13 at 11:44:23 I fought a speeding ticket once...and won. I thought the speed limit was 35 and was clocked at 37....the office said it was a 25 mph zone. I did not remember seeing any sign that listed, and when I went back and looked at the area I found a 25 mph sign that was twisted on the telephone pole so that it was facing the sidealk - not the street. This sign was midway between the 35 mph signs. I took a photo with me to court that showed the 35 mph signs and the 25 mph sign so the judge would understand what was going on. I asked an attorney friend how to submit the evidence. He suggested that when they asked me how I pleaded....that I should respond "Your honor I would like to submit evidence to the prosecutor that may dismiss the case". When I did that everyone looked up.....that was not the normal routine. When the prosecutor saw the photos, he dropped the charges and htey dismissed the case. A week later the sign was repaired. It did cost me several hours of preparation and time in court....but I had far more time than money back then. (I still don't have much money - but I have even less time). My suggestion is to take published data that shows the tops speed is way below 120 mph. A real factory flyer from the Suzuki dealer is going to be more believable than something you print off internet. If ou do print something off the internet.....make it look as believable as possible. You may also have to prove your bike is stock. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Paladin. on 04/22/13 at 22:20:15 2734383B3B3E3924570 wrote:
Post your court date and I am sure some of us would like to be there. I know I would be there if it is within 100 miles of my home. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Bubba on 04/23/13 at 10:30:13 This would be interesting to see if you can get off... I had a cop chase me down on a road near my work...I was doing 55 (the speed limit)...he came pulling up next to me and did the two fingers to his eyes thing (I'm watching you). At the light he rolled down his window and said "YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN!" I said "my speedo says I was doing 55"...he said "It's WRONG!" I didn't argue but I think it was cuz I went from 0 to 55 pretty quick from the light... He was flooring it to catch up to me...LOL...that's probably how your cop came up with 120mph...he was trying to catch up... |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by runwyrlph on 04/23/13 at 18:12:18 Any chance the ticket was for 120 kph ? That I might believe. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Serowbot on 04/23/13 at 18:18:19 Maybe Troopy had his radar set to read KPH?... That would be about 75mph... |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by jcstokes on 04/23/13 at 18:45:40 Why would the revenue collector go for kmph in the USA? To get some more revenue. He might have been hung over, perhaps his wife/lover/partner had a headache. Possibly it was his bad hair day. Is he jealous of motorcyclists? |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/23/13 at 18:50:50 His soon to be ex-wife made him sell his. He THOT that would her off his back, but it just fed her hate. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by cowboy on 04/23/13 at 18:59:24 there's no way a savage will do 120 no way :-X |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/23/13 at 19:02:17 ONly in neutral, on a Long, steep hill.. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Gyrobob on 04/25/13 at 14:00:31 5C676D7B46677B6D080 wrote:
Assuming a Savage has a Cd of around 1.0,.. it would take around 80 hp at the rear wheel to get to that speed. Not only that, the thing would need another gear, or a smaller rear sprocket or a larger front sprocket. I'll bet there aren't ANY Savages with more than double the stock hp,... AND,... you'd have to machine new sprockets out of billet to get that gearing. One of those sprockets would cost more than an entire Savage. It's an interesting thought, though,.. ::) |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by Gyrobob on 04/25/13 at 14:02:07 253A3C3B2621102010283A367D4F0 wrote:
Maybe take off the belt, pump up the tires really hard, and go down a ski jump. |
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Title: Re: Suzuki savage clocked at 120 mph! Post by WD on 04/25/13 at 17:05:34 Jet Assist Take Off... strap a rocket to it... it might make 120. They'll clear 100 if you put them on a serious weight and wind resistance diet. And fine tune the snot out of them. Just be ready to fight with the bike for the rest of the time you own it... it really does some damage to the engine. |
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