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Message started by Midnightrider on 04/16/13 at 16:36:50

Title: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Midnightrider on 04/16/13 at 16:36:50

http://personalliberty.com/2013/04/16/vet-abused-disarmed-by-cops-because-polite-constitution-has-no-place-for-rights/   Its a shame we treat our veterans like common criminals. A lot of states are disarming them as soon as they return home. This is not the country I grew up in.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 17:16:39

There are 2 locations in the country where I felt I was in a police state. East texas - houston and east - only part I have been to and San Diego CA ... Ooo Iowa's western 1/2 was bad too, but I barely spent 5-6 hours there ... 1/2 of it in a squad car ... for having tinted windows ...

So I guess its par for Texas ... I dunno.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Midnightrider on 04/16/13 at 18:06:33

Sri I cant argue with you, I've never been there. Texas is known to be a gun friendly state. Sounds like the cops are assholes. Colt is leaving Conneticut because of their anti gun laws and moving to Texas. Anyone armed hiking in a known wilderness area with a gun should not be arrested or detained, especially a veteran who is well trained firearm user. I carry a special snake pistol loaded with small bb's when I'm in the woods in the summer to dispatch poisonous snakes. Don't want em around my grandkids.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 18:23:17

Texas is an anamoly in a lot of cases. It is southern, but it does not act like a southern state.
Its a state with a lot of illegal aliens obviously, but it also has a huge number of legal aliens, in fact it may be a reverse from NC or other states in the east coast cos there legal aliens may out number illegal. Which in NC they dont.
Texas also has a lot fewer blacks than most surrounding states (from perception and again only houston and east) ...

None of this possibly explains anything, but I am telling you of my experience in TX.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/16/13 at 18:52:50

aw enforcement ended up charging the man with resisting arrest, which was later dropped to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty.


& just what "duty" was he performing? The cop would have been right in his actions had he simply stopped & said hello & asked if they had been having a good time on their hike,,But Noooo,, he had to show hizzasss & screw a good man over,,

Ohhh, but dont ever stop & think that these cops are getting the idea that they Should act like that from higher ups,, Ohh No,, Im sure that in their daily briefings theyre being told to be mindful of the citizens rights & Im sure theyre all taught that the Bill of Rights means what it says & that they should honor it,, Uh Huhh,, Im just certain of it,

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by houstonbofh on 04/17/13 at 00:03:43

Not sure what part of Houston Sri was in, but my experiance is a little different.  "No blacks..."  Uh...  Houston is considered a rap mecca.  Screw was originated here.

As for the cops...  I think they are about to have there asses handed to them.  This will get VERY ugly.  There will be more people protesting this crap than the population of Temple.  And I may be one of them.

(Hard to schedule protests when you actually have a job.)

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Midnightrider on 04/17/13 at 00:59:04

http://personalliberty.com/2013/04/16/rick-perry-tells-ptr-come-on-down-to-texas-to-make-your-guns/

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by rfw2003 on 04/17/13 at 08:13:30

Alot of the cops here in TX are starting to let their badge get to their ego, and think they are way above what they are, and also think that people have no civil rights.   I won't go into what happened to me last year, buts say it was much worse then what happened to the guy we are talking about.  At least I did end up with some justice out of it, even though I did get bent over with the crappy Public Defender I had that made a back room deal with the DA without even consulting me.  Most of the police that were involved in my issue were fired after the new sheriff was elected in this year.

R.F.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Ed L. on 04/18/13 at 06:34:59

It's just not in Texas, a LEO showed up at the police range here in Florida with targets that had Travon Martin's image on them. After he got fired he said that they were a training tool to show what not to shoot at, the targets even had a picture of a pack of Skittles on them.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/18/13 at 09:43:36

Their attitudes are much different than they were when we were kids.

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/14635-feds-requested-targets-with-children-and-pregnant-women

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by houstonbofh on 04/18/13 at 20:28:17

FYI:  I am hearing from people in the region now that the guy is a known troublemaker, and may have been provoking the cops intentionally.  Note that I am not hearing this from any official sources, but actual folks there.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Dane Allen on 04/19/13 at 08:31:34


696E7472756E6F636E6769010 wrote:
FYI:  I am hearing from people in the region now that the guy is a known troublemaker, and may have been provoking the cops intentionally.  Note that I am not hearing this from any official sources, but actual folks there.


Like he wsa trying to get one of those videos that are all over the net with some sort of title like "unlawful stop" or something? Interesting but, assuming it is true, I think the police need to maintain a higher form of decorum and not get drawn into a legal trap. That is taxpayer money they are at risk of losing to a lawsuit. I think this happens a lot at protested where they try to get footage of the cops clubbing some old lady. It definitely sucks and makes the cops job harder, and I think you are right about him provoking the cops, but being a co isn't an easy job and ultimately it's the rights of the people they have to uphold.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by houstonbofh on 04/19/13 at 20:35:37


1C39363D1934343D36580 wrote:
[quote author=696E7472756E6F636E6769010 link=1366155410/0#10 date=1366342097]FYI:  I am hearing from people in the region now that the guy is a known troublemaker, and may have been provoking the cops intentionally.  Note that I am not hearing this from any official sources, but actual folks there.


Like he wsa trying to get one of those videos that are all over the net with some sort of title like "unlawful stop" or something? Interesting but, assuming it is true, I think the police need to maintain a higher form of decorum and not get drawn into a legal trap. That is taxpayer money they are at risk of losing to a lawsuit. I think this happens a lot at protested where they try to get footage of the cops clubbing some old lady. It definitely sucks and makes the cops job harder, and I think you are right about him provoking the cops, but being a co isn't an easy job and ultimately it's the rights of the people they have to uphold.[/quote]
From what I am hearing, the cops were polite the other 20 or so times, but got overly frustrated this time.  Still makes them wrong, but also human.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Dane Allen on 04/22/13 at 09:43:35


4542585E5942434F424B452D0 wrote:
[quote author=1C39363D1934343D36580 link=1366155410/0#11 date=1366385494][quote author=696E7472756E6F636E6769010 link=1366155410/0#10 date=1366342097]FYI:  I am hearing from people in the region now that the guy is a known troublemaker, and may have been provoking the cops intentionally.  Note that I am not hearing this from any official sources, but actual folks there.


Like he wsa trying to get one of those videos that are all over the net with some sort of title like "unlawful stop" or something? Interesting but, assuming it is true, I think the police need to maintain a higher form of decorum and not get drawn into a legal trap. That is taxpayer money they are at risk of losing to a lawsuit. I think this happens a lot at protested where they try to get footage of the cops clubbing some old lady. It definitely sucks and makes the cops job harder, and I think you are right about him provoking the cops, but being a co isn't an easy job and ultimately it's the rights of the people they have to uphold.[/quote]
From what I am hearing, the cops were polite the other 20 or so times, but got overly frustrated this time.  Still makes them wrong, but also human.[/quote]

Wow, so they keep hassling this guy even though they did the same thing another 20 times? Now this is sounding like a pattern of harassment. I was thinking he was just out one day and got jumped but if the cops keep busting this guy for no reason then that is very, very bad.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by houstonbofh on 04/23/13 at 23:43:30


785D52597D505059523C0 wrote:
[quote author=4542585E5942434F424B452D0 link=1366155410/0#12 date=1366428937][quote author=1C39363D1934343D36580 link=1366155410/0#11 date=1366385494][quote author=696E7472756E6F636E6769010 link=1366155410/0#10 date=1366342097]FYI:  I am hearing from people in the region now that the guy is a known troublemaker, and may have been provoking the cops intentionally.  Note that I am not hearing this from any official sources, but actual folks there.


Like he wsa trying to get one of those videos that are all over the net with some sort of title like "unlawful stop" or something? Interesting but, assuming it is true, I think the police need to maintain a higher form of decorum and not get drawn into a legal trap. That is taxpayer money they are at risk of losing to a lawsuit. I think this happens a lot at protested where they try to get footage of the cops clubbing some old lady. It definitely sucks and makes the cops job harder, and I think you are right about him provoking the cops, but being a co isn't an easy job and ultimately it's the rights of the people they have to uphold.[/quote]
From what I am hearing, the cops were polite the other 20 or so times, but got overly frustrated this time.  Still makes them wrong, but also human.[/quote]

Wow, so they keep hassling this guy even though they did the same thing another 20 times? Now this is sounding like a pattern of harassment. I was thinking he was just out one day and got jumped but if the cops keep busting this guy for no reason then that is very, very bad.[/quote]
You misread what I said.  He went out baiting cops 20 times, and 19 of them they were totally polite and professional...  At least that is what I am hearing.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Midnightrider on 04/24/13 at 00:33:47

I read several states were denying Veterans gun permits now just because they think they might have a flashback and lose it. I'm ashamed of how this country treats the warriors that keep us free. I think it started with the useless wars we had no business fighting, from Viet Nam to the present. People didn't like the wars and they started looking down their noses at the courageous men and women who fought in them. They were following orders from their commander in chief. Whether the war was right or wrong they risked it all for us. They deserve a lot of respect.

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Dane Allen on 04/24/13 at 12:38:08


7F7862646378797578717F170 wrote:
[quote author=785D52597D505059523C0 link=1366155410/0#13 date=1366649015][quote author=4542585E5942434F424B452D0 link=1366155410/0#12 date=1366428937][quote author=1C39363D1934343D36580 link=1366155410/0#11 date=1366385494][quote author=696E7472756E6F636E6769010 link=1366155410/0#10 date=1366342097]FYI:  I am hearing from people in the region now that the guy is a known troublemaker, and may have been provoking the cops intentionally.  Note that I am not hearing this from any official sources, but actual folks there.


Like he wsa trying to get one of those videos that are all over the net with some sort of title like "unlawful stop" or something? Interesting but, assuming it is true, I think the police need to maintain a higher form of decorum and not get drawn into a legal trap. That is taxpayer money they are at risk of losing to a lawsuit. I think this happens a lot at protested where they try to get footage of the cops clubbing some old lady. It definitely sucks and makes the cops job harder, and I think you are right about him provoking the cops, but being a co isn't an easy job and ultimately it's the rights of the people they have to uphold.[/quote]
From what I am hearing, the cops were polite the other 20 or so times, but got overly frustrated this time.  Still makes them wrong, but also human.[/quote]

Wow, so they keep hassling this guy even though they did the same thing another 20 times? Now this is sounding like a pattern of harassment. I was thinking he was just out one day and got jumped but if the cops keep busting this guy for no reason then that is very, very bad.[/quote]
You misread what I said.  He went out baiting cops 20 times, and 19 of them they were totally polite and professional...  At least that is what I am hearing.[/quote]

I don't want to be argumentative here but is it possible one person's "baiting" is another person's "just going about your business"?

Title: Re: You wouldthink a Texas Cop would know better
Post by Dane Allen on 04/24/13 at 12:38:53


45616C66616F607C7A616C6D7A080 wrote:
I read several states were denying Veterans gun permits now just because they think they might have a flashback and lose it. I'm ashamed of how this country treats the warriors that keep us free. I think it started with the useless wars we had no business fighting, from Viet Nam to the present. People didn't like the wars and they started looking down their noses at the courageous men and women who fought in them. They were following orders from their commander in chief. Whether the war was right or wrong they risked it all for us. They deserve a lot of respect.


YES!!! 100% yes.

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