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Title: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/15/13 at 20:07:07 im riding a 2004 savage with a little over 16k. the previous owner put a harley muffler on it and said he rejetted the carb. the bike seems to run okay. yesterday i rode about 138 miles. i checked my gas mileage and only got 38 mpg. is that about average or do i need to start looking for a problem? |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by Charon on 04/15/13 at 20:48:58 If you want to see what some others report for fuel mileage, try www.fuelly.com. On its left is a "browse vehicles" and when that opens you can browse motorcycles. Then you can find Suzuki, and the model. Personally, I think it ought to be getting at least 50 mpg, but carburetor jettings and driving habits have a strong influence on mpg. You can click on the fuelly badge in my signature block, and wander around from there, too. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by Serowbot on 04/15/13 at 21:02:16 If you did your math right,... you're drooling fuel... A Savage can't burn that much... :-?... |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by MiCTLaN on 04/15/13 at 21:19:15 I average about 36mpg, but the vast majority of that gas is spent to and from work. 5 miles, 4 stop lights, 6 stop signs. The best I've seen was around 55mpg, all highway miles. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by SkyHigh on 04/15/13 at 23:22:52 I'd say that 75% of my rides are at 75 - 80 MPH on freeways. The rest of the time I'm probably averaging 45 MPH on surface streets with long spans between lights and stop signs. With that type of riding, I'm averaging 63 MPG. My bike's a 2011 S40 and is completely stock. I'm keeping it stock for the time being because I love high MPG. My 2007 Chevy Silverado, on the other hand, gets only 1/3 the MPG as the Suzi, of course. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by rfw2003 on 04/15/13 at 23:49:23 I avg about 44 to 45 mph most times, but I know I'm rich in the mid range on my tuning, when I was fine tuning my setup I lost one of the washers that was sent in the kit from Lancer and that made me abit to rich in the mid range which is where you are in most cruise and highway riding. I'll just deal with it for now until I get the upgrade carb from Lancer in the next few months, then I'll get her tuned properly. Plus I'll be doing a chain conversion with a 17/43 which should help with my mileage as well since most of it's at 70 mph around here in the country to get anywhere as it's all hwy and a min of 20 to 30 miles to the nearest real store. R.F. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by apache snow on 04/16/13 at 05:05:26 I am getting 60 mpg with about 1/2 in town and 1/2 running 55. I have a stock muffler, a K&N drop in filter, 147.5 main, 55 pilot with the screw turned out 1 & 3/4 turns, and I raised the needle up .030. I am at around 500 sea level. I tried to keep the stock 52.5 pilot but it was just too lean. I wonder if the 52.5 pilot with the bleed holes would be better. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by Dave on 04/16/13 at 05:19:02 3C2D3C3E35382E33322A5D0 wrote:
The bleed holes don't do anything on our carbs. The bleed holes operate on carbs that have an "air screw" to adjust idle air iinstead of idle fuel. I have tried both with and without bleed holes on my carb, and with an O2 sensor in my exhaust so I could read the difference, and there is none. On our carbs the only metering is through the size of the small hole at the tapered end of the jet.......the bleed holes don't do a thing as they are surrounded by the aluminum carb body and there is nothing that can flow into or out of those bleed holes. On the third page of the following link - there is a diagram that shows how the pilot jet has both fuel flowing in the bottom, and air from the air bleed screw is mixed through in the Pilot Jet. There is also a description of this on the section that talks about the low speed operation in Section 3.1. http://www.mikuni.com/pdf/vmmanual.pdf |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by jgrandmont on 04/16/13 at 05:24:39 Averaging 61 mpg on a stock '09 S40 with just over 5K miles. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by EJID on 04/16/13 at 08:41:56 My overall average fuel economy on my 05 has worked out to be 41.9mpg. Most of my travel is short in town rides, I think it's a little rich with my setup (147.5 main/55 pilot) running a Memphis Slim w/s and Fishtail muffler with little baffling. Here's a screenshot from my phone of each time I've filled up since last summer (Makes me think I need to ride more often) http://p1.bikepics.com/2013/04/16/bikepics-2543011-full.jpg |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/16/13 at 08:42:06 Cam, rejet, Supertrapp & I dont baby it & I get 49. You gotsaproblum.. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by Badass94Cad on 04/16/13 at 09:32:30 Could be heavy on the throttle! ;D I'm getting about 45mpg city, over 50 just cruising. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/16/13 at 10:13:35 well i do like to get on the throttle a bit. ;) maybe ill try staying off of it, and see what happens. i hate to mess with it when its running good. i do want to get as much mpg as i can though. thanks for the replies. i didnt expect so many. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by rfw2003 on 04/16/13 at 10:14:34 67686B66220 wrote:
What app is that your useing there EJID?? I'd love to have that for my phone. R.F. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by EJID on 04/16/13 at 10:46:37 43574603010102310 wrote:
What app is that your useing there EJID?? I'd love to have that for my phone. R.F.[/quote] Just called "Mileage" as far as I can tell. I love it and use it for all my vehicles in one place. 8-) http://p1.bikepics.com/2013/04/16/bikepics-2543041-full.jpg |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by rfw2003 on 04/16/13 at 11:16:56 151A1914500 wrote:
What app is that your useing there EJID?? I'd love to have that for my phone. R.F.[/quote] Just called "Mileage" as far as I can tell. I love it and use it for all my vehicles in one place. 8-) http://p1.bikepics.com/2013/04/16/bikepics-2543041-full.jpg[/quote] Thanks a bunch, found it really quick and got it installed already. ;D |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/16/13 at 19:12:14 i realized today that i havent changed the air filter since i have owned the bike. i went ahead and ordered one. maybe that will help a little on the mpg. it did on my old 79 f150. :D |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by WD on 04/17/13 at 16:03:02 My Savage got 4x better fuel economy than my truck (318 V8 with 3 speed slushomatic) the last several times it was ridden... 36mpg with 15 inch rise apes. Stone stock it was turning in mid 70s mpg commuting, 35-45 mph country roads. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/18/13 at 09:22:09 i guess ill just keep tinkering with it. there is no telling what the previous owner really did. :) |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by savagerider87 on 04/19/13 at 13:01:28 im getting about 35mpg in the city w a 4 speed and I tend to hold the gears just a little ;D |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by Routy on 04/19/13 at 17:08:33 Don't even think ya can't get 35 mpg ! My bike runs beeeeeeautiful, and I did get 50 mpg once, only because I really tried, and it was boring and not fun. Most times I get 35 - 40. My bro in Grand Rapids said my bike can't be running right, because he gets 50 all the time. Then last year he hauled his s40 w/ him on his trip out here. We took several rides together. Long story short,....... even tho he couldn't stay w/ me, he learned what riding really is. Afterward he said he was surprised we even got 35 mpg. There ain't a straight level spot in this country. And its WOT out of every curve. Its what riding is all about here ! MPG means nothing. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/19/13 at 18:03:18 i tried not to romp on it today. but i just couldnt help it. it makes me happy :) i do think it might be burning rich though. the rear brake arm behind the muffler is black. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by savagerider87 on 04/20/13 at 06:47:53 757A6C6C7A6F767A6D7C7A1F0 wrote:
yeah id turn the screw out a lil more ;) |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by ToesNose on 04/20/13 at 12:58:45 2007 S40 stock mechanically (till now redoing the exhaust) I'm 160 Lbs. averaging 52 MPG. typically riding on country backroads 45 to 55 MPH. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/20/13 at 19:29:46 yeah id turn the screw out a lil more ;)[/quote] wont turning it out give me more fuel? :-/ i think i should go in. am i thinking wrong? |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by rfw2003 on 04/20/13 at 19:34:43 2F20363620352C20372620450 wrote:
he's not asking about the brake lever/arm, he's asking about the hub itself in the area that the brake shoes would drag against it. If's it's starting to turn any color other then normal aluminum your brakes are dragging, if it's gotten to a bronze like color they are dragging very bad. R.F. |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/20/13 at 19:45:46 i was talking about burning to much fuel. my brakes are okay. ;) i think ill dial it in a little and see if that fixes it. im not getting alot of smoke or anything. i just dont think it should turn everything behind my muffler black. i did notice today when i went to start adjusting my valves that the previous owner took the vac line off the petcock. he plugged the port on the carb by wrapping the drain line around from the bottom and hooking it up to the port. ::) bonus the petcock never shuts off.... the bonus is getting to do the raptor mod. ;) |
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Title: Re: 38 mpg is this right? Post by 45acp on 04/21/13 at 19:40:15 well i just thought i should post this. i should have caught it earlier, but didnt until i took the tank off for the first time. the petcock vac line wasnt plugged. the previous owner pulled it off the petcock. left it attached to the carb. then he just let it hang there. i always assumed it was a drain of some sort. :-[ plugged it off and the bike idles much better now. im willing to bet it makes a big difference gas wise also. on another note i pulled out the stock petcock. the filter screen is gone. i guess he did away with it too. ::) |
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