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Message started by paulmarshall on 04/14/13 at 15:55:51

Title: Twin engines
Post by paulmarshall on 04/14/13 at 15:55:51

Can we do this with 2 Savages. ;D
http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/17/ty-exclusive-early-70s-twin-engine-yamaha-drag-bike/

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by rfw2003 on 04/14/13 at 16:03:27

Don't see how it would be possible with the Savage Engines since the Tranny is built into the engine. you would need Motorcycle engines that have a separate tranny from the engine to be able to pull this off and make it work properly

R.F.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by apache snow on 04/14/13 at 16:07:17

Those two yamahas have the tranny built into the engine.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by rfw2003 on 04/14/13 at 16:15:25


7869787A717C6A77766E190 wrote:
Those two yamahas have the tranny built into the engine.

yeah I know,  I just don't see how that's gonna work out, unless the engines have had mods done to them to eliminate the tranny and clutch system then a divorced tranny is used.  Otherwise you would have some interesting shifting issues and sync issues between the 2 engines.

It's hard enough to tune multiple engines to work together properly but to add in 2 trannies to drive 1 wheel,  that's not something I would want to even try to tackle

R.F.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by paulmarshall on 04/14/13 at 16:23:54


13071653515152610 wrote:
[quote author=7869787A717C6A77766E190 link=1365980151/0#2 date=1365980837]Those two yamahas have the tranny built into the engine.

yeah I know,  I just don't see how that's gonna work out, unless the engines have had mods done to them to eliminate the tranny and clutch system then a divorced tranny is used.  Otherwise you would have some interesting shifting issues and sync issues between the 2 engines.

It's hard enough to tune multiple engines to work together properly but to add in 2 trannies to drive 1 wheel,  that's not something I would want to even try to tackle

R.F.[This is how]

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by paulmarshall on 04/14/13 at 16:27:51

The link gives a little info. Apparently clutch operates rear motor only.
http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/17/ty-exclusive-early-70s-twin-engine-yamaha-drag-bike/

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by rfw2003 on 04/14/13 at 16:35:33

Looks like it was also built for static show only,  with that last pic you posted, the middle stand that's keeping it upright is solid welded to the frame with no joints to fold it up or remove it.

I can see that it might work like that but can the one clutch actually hold the power of 2 engines???  who knows.  I think this was just a concept build just to make a static display out of spare parts.

R.F.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by apache snow on 04/14/13 at 16:42:12

Its been done before.

http://www.xs650chopper.com/2010/06/xs650-double-motor-two-motors/

http://motorcyclephotooftheday.com/category/dragbike/

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by paulmarshall on 04/14/13 at 17:14:04

[quote author=7B6F7E3B39393A090 link=1365980151/0#6 date=1365982533]Looks like it was also built for static show only,  with that last pic you posted, the middle stand that's keeping it upright is solid welded to the frame with no joints to fold it up or remove it.

I can see that it might work like that but can the one clutch actually hold the power of 2 engines???  who knows.  I think this was just a concept build just to make a static display out of spare parts.

R.F.[Yes I think you might be right]

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by RidgeRunner13 on 04/14/13 at 17:32:17

Russ Collins built a top fuel drag bike back in 1973 using 3 Honda 750 engines called the Atchison, Topeka, & the Santa Fe. I saw it run at Bowling Green, Ky. that year when I rode up with a group from Jackson, Tn. Sonny Routt had a twin engine Triumph & T.C.Christenson a twin engine Norton.
Somewhere on my old computer I had a picture of a triple engine RD350. The front two engines had the cases cut to eliminate the transmissions. 8-)

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by apache snow on 04/14/13 at 17:42:24

I was at Beech Bend drag way that year. But I was there from 1971 through 1976. That was a big three day event. The last year there were 30,000 bikers there and there several people killed. (not on the strip)

I remember Joe Smith and TC Christenson. Those were the days. I rode a Harley back then.

http://granddaddy-joe-smith-nostalgia.blogspot.com/

http://joesmithdragracing.blogspot.com/2010/09/joe-smiths-double-harley-davidson.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqwJzzlroLI

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by houstonbofh on 04/14/13 at 20:41:31

As long as you have a way to make solid shifts, and a Y on the clutch cable, you can run them both and just have a second sprocket to chain them together.  And you are right about the sync being more complex, but not much more than 4 carbs on one engine.

Title: Triple Engines
Post by RidgeRunner13 on 04/14/13 at 21:38:35

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n94/Pappygt13/motorcyclepictureofthedaywilowsprings152_zps566030d2.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n94/Pappygt13/motorcyclepictureofthedaywilowsprings157_zps6938b138.jpg

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by wambr on 04/14/13 at 23:32:36

also something similar. two engine from the Russian motorcycle m-72 with turbo.
http://motomoto.by/files/image/%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8F1/shif2.jpg
http://oppozit.ru/files/u1/04.jpg
http://www.motosvit.com/moto/custom15/15856-metric1st-l.jpg
http://www.motosvit.com/moto/custom/Yuri%20Shif/5R7P9648.jpg
just a monster. :)

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by Serowbot on 04/14/13 at 23:51:34

If that guy does a burn-out, to heat up the tires... he's gonna' have a molten rubber skunk-stripe up his leathers and helmet...
;D ;D ;D...

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by srinath on 04/15/13 at 01:24:51

On the xs650's they have removed the trans mission from the front.
However this is a crime to do to an xs, and they made a better version of it @ the factory, you can even get it cheaper than an xs650 ... called an xs1100 ... or get a GS1100 and wipe the floor with both of these.

Complicated sheiete.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by bill67 on 04/15/13 at 02:47:00


3F29252A3A480 wrote:
also something similar. two engine from the Russian motorcycle m-72 with turbo.
http://motomoto.by/files/image/%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8F1/shif2.jpg
http://oppozit.ru/files/u1/04.jpg
http://www.motosvit.com/moto/custom15/15856-metric1st-l.jpg
http://www.motosvit.com/moto/custom/Yuri%20Shif/5R7P9648.jpg
just a monster. :)

I like that,but wouldn't work for me.My arms are to short.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/15/13 at 07:50:00


3D2B2728384A0 wrote:
also something similar. two engine from the Russian motorcycle m-72 with turbo.
http://motomoto.by/files/image/%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8F1/shif2.jpg
http://oppozit.ru/files/u1/04.jpg
http://www.motosvit.com/moto/custom15/15856-metric1st-l.jpg
http://www.motosvit.com/moto/custom/Yuri%20Shif/5R7P9648.jpg
just a monster. :)



Thats just beautiful..danged drive shaft looks a bit skinny, & thats a supercharger on top,, the front end design gets me,, thats real nice, & the frame shape, heck, its just nice all over,,

What year was that done Wambr?

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by wambr on 04/15/13 at 09:18:09

this handsome, if memory serves me, was made a couple of years ago... at first I read about it in the Russian magazine "MOTO". and was simply shocked by such details, that there have been published . Yes, indeed, he is SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL!
and yet, as I began to ride in that motorcycles(I had the URAL M-63), I at least and remotely can imagine how huge amount of work was done to create such a "SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL" and of what he is "in reality"

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/15/13 at 09:46:18

I swiped those pics & posted them in a forum.. lets see if any of those guys have any details on it,,
Best I can tell, its what the Guzzi guys call a Ural & is one of the "Go To" machines for sidecar tugging. The former "Leader" of the Guzzi board had one. He recently passed,, young guy, too. PLane landed, he stood up, said he felt dizzy, sat down & never got up.. he was a nice guy, too,, at least, if its possible to read the peace & happiness in a mans face & eyes. Anyway,, others said he was nice & he sure Looked it to me,

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by wambr on 04/15/13 at 10:30:01

JOG,you interesting details about these guys?

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/15/13 at 10:40:29

If there are construction pics & specs on the engine, engines, whatever, Id sure scan thru, but dont go to any trouble to post it. Its no big deal. I mostly wanted to show it to those other guys. I expect there will be some real appreciation for that machine,
So far, 9 have looked, no replies,tho.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by wambr on 04/15/13 at 11:11:56

OK! I look for information about boys and their works.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by wambr on 04/16/13 at 10:24:21

JOG, here is their official site http://www.yurishifmoto.com/index.php/ru/
more information look for later, now just a lot of work and a little free time

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/16/13 at 23:25:24

Theres some beautiful bikes & women up in there,,

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by wambr on 04/17/13 at 11:09:51

you also liked...bikes   girls on them? :)

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/13 at 23:21:02

Yea, some real sweet lookin "V-Twins" in there,,

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by jcstokes on 04/18/13 at 02:48:39

If you are lucky, I will try and upload a photo of the twin engine Villiers Flyer on the weekend.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by Gyrobob on 04/18/13 at 10:35:54

How about a bike with 24 motors?  I have seen one with more than that, but I cannot find it at the moment.

http://bikeglam.com/funky-motorcycle-the-dolmette-bike-with-24-chainsaw-engines/

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by wambr on 04/18/13 at 10:41:37

interesting idea...24 engine from chainsaws...there's probably 1000000000000000 horsepower :)

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by Dave on 04/18/13 at 12:54:43


3C2A2629394B0 wrote:
interesting idea...24 engine from chainsaws...there's probably 1000000000000000 horsepower :)


I am sorry to say.....I have spent more time with my hand on a chainsaw than a bike the last few years.  An MS880 is the largest Stihl chainsaw right now....and it is around 8 HP.  Most homeowner saws are less than 3 hp.....and most midsize professional saws are in the 4-6 HP range.

So a 24 chainsaw engines probably makes about 100 smokey horsepeower......and a lot of noise! :o

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by rfw2003 on 04/18/13 at 13:06:06


447F7265747863657E767B64170 wrote:
[quote author=3C2A2629394B0 link=1365980151/15#29 date=1366306897]interesting idea...24 engine from chainsaws...there's probably 1000000000000000 horsepower :)


I am sorry to say.....I have spent more time with my hand on a chainsaw than a bike the last few years.  An MS880 is the largest Stihl chainsaw right now....and it is around 8 HP.  Most homeowner saws are less than 3 hp.....and most midsize professional saws are in the 4-6 HP range.

So a 24 chainsaw engines probably makes about 100 smokey horsepeower......and a lot of noise! :o[/quote]
not to mention how would you like to start that sucker up everyday, pull starting 24 engines just to ride will get tiring in a hurry.  :-/

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by Cavi Mike on 04/18/13 at 14:35:55


14020E0111630 wrote:
also something similar. two engine from the Russian motorcycle m-72 with turbo.
http://motomoto.by/files/image/%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8F1/shif2.jpg


We call that a supercharger.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by jcstokes on 04/20/13 at 00:39:49

Villiers Flyer, constructed by 15 year old Louis McNair of Clevedon Auckland NZ. Power units two 98cc Villiers mower engines developing 6BHP approximate. It runs and has been used on velodromes, reputed speed 40 mph. Inspired by 1915 Indian board track racer.

Title: Re: Twin engines
Post by Gyrobob on 04/20/13 at 05:35:07

How about 48 cylinders?  4,200cc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ratfuML9QA

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/48-cylinder-kawasaki-for-sale/18527.html


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