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Message started by BOBD on 04/14/13 at 03:20:07

Title: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by BOBD on 04/14/13 at 03:20:07

Since Trinity and Yelvington don't make trike kits for the Savage anymore, does anybody know where to get a trike kit for one? I guess Yelvington took over for Trinity and stopped making them. They have said that they may be starting to again next year, but I'd like one now. No Voyager kits for me. No sidecar either. Cheap as possible.

Title: Re: Trike
Post by 12Bravo on 04/14/13 at 05:28:52

I have looked for many years for trike kits for the S40 and other bikes. Trinity/Yelvington was the only one that I could find that made a kit for the Savage/S40.

Title: Re: Trike
Post by BOBD on 04/14/13 at 06:35:44

Here is what Yelvington told me in an e-mail: We currently are not building a kit for the Suzuki S40.  As we move forward the S40 will be included in our product offering but that will probably not be available until 2014.  We are moving through the designs based upon demand from the public.

Keep checking our website as it is a dynamic environment and we are adding new things on a weekly basis.

That was April 12, 2013

I did see one somewhere for $10,000. There's no way that would work for me! Can't find where it was. It's too expensive anyway. Really aren't sure how much the Yelvington would be. Does anyone have an idea?

Title: Re: Trike
Post by Greg on 04/14/13 at 07:26:46

These guys had an S40 trike displayed at a bike show. Their site says they trike everything and both the LS650 and S40 years are listed. Might be worth checking out.

http://itrikebikes.com/TRIKE_KITS.html

http://itrikebikes.com/images/picture_708.jpg

Title: Re: Yelvington Trikes
Post by BOBD on 04/14/13 at 12:09:33

I looked at the trikebikes.com and sent an e-mail. They said $6000-$6500 to pick it up, do the conversion and bring it back. I live in Columbus, Ohio and they are in Pennsylvania. Not sure I want to spend that kind of money. Any comments?

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Charon on 04/14/13 at 13:10:36

If you search the site using the word "trinity" you will find some older posts about the Trinity Trike. That was said to never cost more than $6K, which isn't all that far off the price from trikebikes. That was in addition to whatever you already have in the LS650. Seems trikes aren't cheap.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/15/13 at 07:41:44

If it wont lean in a corner, its no longer a ride worth the risk. Gimme a Mazda Miata / standard trans..Put the top down,,& go. If the weather gets ugly, I have a top, I have a heater & I can carry cargo & bodies

AND I can get one for less than a trike..& itll be cheaper to operate,.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 04/15/13 at 08:35:57

I had the trike discussion with my wife last year after surgery. I dropped (well not dropped but leaned, no damage) my 2007 RoadGlide 3 times and decided I didn't want to do any damage to such a beautiful ride. I ended up lucking out on a Tow-Pac add a trike on ebay, new they cost about 5k and I picked it up for 1.4k and put i on myself (took me a month but I did it).
Long story short, sometimes you just physically HAVE to get a trike kit or trike your bike if you want to keep riding.....look around maybe someone will have one, if not...keep looking or asking untill you do. I'm going to sell the RoadGlide because I went to lighter bikes and the missus now likes to ride solo so we don't need a big massive cruiser no more. Good luck on your search.
Start with ebay ...look here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIKE-KIT-HARLEY-HONDA-SUZUKI-BMW-YAMAHA-KAWASAKI-SCOOT-/140589723763?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20bbccf073&vxp=mtr

Or go to this site and call them
http://www.towpacusa.com/
They are really nice folks...

Found this site...maybe worth looking into... LOL.... just search "trike group" or "trike club" or trike forum" on google or yahoo
http://btw-trikers.org/uploads/home.php
called "btw- brothers of the third wheel" buncha old farts like us...

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Dave on 04/15/13 at 09:04:49

I am not trying to be sarcastic.....but maybe this trike thing would be cheaper if they did the "ROKON" coversion to the front end....instead of putting the extra wheel on the back.

I have also seen a couple of bikes that had an extra wheel on each side to provide stabilty - while not altering the motorycle drive train. Sort of like adult training wheels.  Obvously not the ideal situation....but if it keeps you "ridin"........why not.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 04/15/13 at 09:17:44

The tow-pac is a "training wheel" add on, its an inner frame that attaches to hard mount points on your bike (frame and struts) and a secondary frame with the wheels and suspension that is 3 pointed to the inner frame, it goes on and off in just minutes using a reese type hitch and two large bolts.
They have whats called an E-trike for the gold wing, that has two reese type hitch mounts on either side, but the wing has a center stand for ease of removal and install.
When you get to a point that you cannot physically handle a bike, a trike kit or add-on kit is the way to go if you want to keep riding. I was at a point last year I couldn't even walk 50 feet without being winded, the trike kit on the roadglide kept me in the saddle with no worries and kept my spirits up so I could heal (and all the friends I road with kept me going!). Good luck on your search...but really call the tow-pac folks and tell them your situation...ya never know, they might find a market for the S40 crowd. Or if you are close enough they might "experiment" with your ride if you take it there...

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Greg on 04/15/13 at 09:44:40

This is pretty darn cool!

http://www.hannigantrikes.com/content/reversetrike.html

http://www.hannigantrikes.com/graphics/xphotos/hrtbig.jpg

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/15/13 at 09:56:59

Yep, Cool! So is a penthouse with a swimming pool stocked with PLayboy Bunnies,, I just cant Afford that much "Cool" myself,, But, YES, it IS cool, its Waaay cool &, if I ever see one, I will go & drool on it.
I saw a nice little trike up at the Yamaha shop. Theyd taken it in trade. Seems like it was a 750 V, I came home & looked it up. Theyre about $15,000.00 new, Belt drive, IIRC, looked about the right size, low, easy to get feet on the ground, had a small trunk for haulin yer junk, attractive thing. USA built,, BUT, I cant remember Who dunnitt..

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Dane Allen on 04/15/13 at 09:57:27

Isn't that just a car with no cage? Does look pretty cool, though.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 04/15/13 at 10:02:54


04212E25012C2C252E400 wrote:
Isn't that just a car with no cage? Does look pretty cool, though.


Kinda why i'm selling the roadglide.... no leanin' into corners after the kit, like drivin' a convertable vw

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/15/13 at 10:09:01


3C3F37213A373621530 wrote:
[quote author=04212E25012C2C252E400 link=1365934808/0#12 date=1366045047]Isn't that just a car with no cage? Does look pretty cool, though.


Kinda why i'm selling the roadglide.... no leanin' into corners after the kit, like drivin' a convertable vw[/quote]



Ayyupp,,, thats exactly how Id feel about it. & a little convertible would be fun. I think Ill sell my bikes & Git me one,,some kinda old project car, IF I can land one for enough less than I can get in a fairly decent newer one. Sometimes people think that tired old relic is more valuable,,

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 04/15/13 at 10:18:52


322D2B2C31360737073F2D216A580 wrote:
[quote author=3C3F37213A373621530 link=1365934808/0#13 date=1366045374][quote author=04212E25012C2C252E400 link=1365934808/0#12 date=1366045047]Isn't that just a car with no cage? Does look pretty cool, though.


Kinda why i'm selling the roadglide.... no leanin' into corners after the kit, like drivin' a convertable vw[/quote]



Ayyupp,,, thats exactly how Id feel about it. & a little convertible would be fun. I think Ill sell my bikes & Git me one,,some kinda old project car, IF I can land one for enough less than I can get in a fairly decent newer one. Sometimes people think that tired old relic is more valuable,,[/quote]

Yeah had me one of these when I was young and in the service.... kinda wish I still had it, was fast and fun in the corners.
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/79spitfire.jpg

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by BOBD on 04/15/13 at 10:18:54

Tow-pac is the same thing as a Voyager kit, but with smaller wheels. Had a Voyager kit on my Yamaha, didn't like it. Maybe I'll just buy a used sports car.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/15/13 at 10:25:38

Awww Heck Yea, Wambr! Looks like a load of fun,, I dont know how to tell what year model that is, but, that Horrible front bumper makes me think it had to be from back when they started regulating how tough cars had to be, how much damage they could take in a 5 MPH test, so, Im guessing its a mid to late 70's car.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 04/15/13 at 11:33:04

LOL ! its a late 70's alright.... 1979 Triumph Spitfire, mine had the british carbs on it and I was told by dmv I had to exchange them out within 90 days and bring them a letter from a mechanic. Got my buddy dave to say he fixed the carbs (they was running bad, he adjusted them, but not traded them out) and took his letter to dmv, they signed it off. I was planning on saying I "thought" fixed meant he changed them, he coulda said "all he said was fix them".... That car had rear wheel "cam-out" to take corners faster.... was a blast to ride, not too fast in the top end but fun off the start.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by paulmarshall on 04/15/13 at 11:57:46

They gave the wrong names to the wrong models, I think anyway. The Spitfire is a 6 cylinder and the Stag is the 8 cylinder. I personally think the 8 cylinder should have been called Spitfire and the 6 cylinder Stag.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by apache snow on 04/15/13 at 12:21:24

The Spitfire was a 4 cylinder. The GT 6 was the 6 cylinder.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by paulmarshall on 04/15/13 at 12:24:58

The Spitfire was a 4 cylinder. The GT 6 was the 6 cylinder.


[Oops my bad :-[. Down our ways the 8 is called a Stag.]
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/stag/auction-572421853.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/stag/auction-439373766.htm


Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 04/15/13 at 14:47:52

LOL, made me go look...here is my old 79' spitfire it was mine in 82' so it was like new and in awsome condition.
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/IMAG0454.jpg

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by ToesNose on 04/16/13 at 13:59:31

Yea i had a Triumph Stag, really nice car.....just a crappy engine   :-?

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Gentlemanjim on 05/06/13 at 23:39:22

Back the trike thing -  I'd love to do a reverse trike on the LS.  Anyone know kits for these?

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Dave on 05/07/13 at 06:42:46


6D4F445E464F474B444043472A0 wrote:
Back the trike thing -  I'd love to do a reverse trike on the LS.  Anyone know kits for these?


I believe you might be breaking into new ground with that idea.  I would think that using the running gear from an ATV would be a start - but then your wheel and tire choices would be very limited.....although there may be wheels that bolt to the ATV hubs and will work with car tires.  Another option would be to find a Can Am thingy that is broken and use the front end/chassis as a donor.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by verslagen1 on 05/07/13 at 07:21:53

quick search came up with this...

http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/

http://www.kz1300.com/reversetrike/tremoto.html

http://www.kz1300.com/reversetrike/trike-kits.html

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Gentlemanjim on 05/07/13 at 07:29:28

Thanks way too pricey.  I wan to build it myself just needs some guidance and experience on what works save the trial and error - Mostly save the error

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 05/07/13 at 15:53:50

Just blow up a bunch of those pics and see how they work and then fab something up and test it.
I'm a firm believer in you can fab anything if you put your mind to it, might not look purdy, but you could make it function.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Greg on 05/07/13 at 16:59:29

Not a true trike but offers the stability at a lot less money.

http://www.mtcvoyager.com/

http://www.mtcvoyager.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/suzuki-savage-650.jpg

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by mpescatori on 05/08/13 at 01:20:02


1D262C3A07263A2C490 wrote:
Yea i had a Triumph Stag, really nice car.....just a crappy engine   :-?


European sports cars with US smog heads is like...

... a Playboy Playmate contest with long overcoats ...  ::)

http://www.explayboybunnies.com/history/bunnybirthday/laurenhutton.jpg
Actress LAUREN HUTTON
http://www4.pictures.stylebistro.com/pc/Lauren+Hutton+Heels+Evening+Pumps+G9WLMDgxovhl.jpg

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Greg on 05/13/13 at 15:23:20

I just got off the phone with Jess from ITrikeBikes. They do a custom Savage/S40 kit. They custom make the swingarm, hydraulic rear disc brake system, triple tree, etc. The kit only adds 120 pounds to the bike.

http://itrikebikes.com/Home_Page.php

http://itrikebikes.com/images/picture_708.jpg

http://itrikebikes.com/images/bcc15835e8dbbdcd102b40cce1238824.jpg

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 05/13/13 at 20:30:20

Well...at 3x's the price I paid for the savage...i'm not sure its worth it.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by gerald.hughes on 05/14/13 at 20:05:57

If you need a trike to keep riding, then it is worth it.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 05/15/13 at 08:06:34

Heh..... I know how that is already. I have a 2007' HD roadglide that i've had to add a "tow-pac" trike kit onto because I don't want to drop it. I'm getting my strenth back but I don't think i'll ever be able to pick it back up if I drop it so i'm going to sell it anyway. I don't like the way the trikes steer and will probably just go to a smaller bike like the savage untill I can't hold one up anymore then maybe do an add-on trike system to it.
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/Harley%20pics/028.jpg

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by apache snow on 05/15/13 at 08:53:51

They ain't hard to pick up. 8-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVb0QDJwWBY

And the big ones..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDR856eBy1c

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 05/15/13 at 13:55:35

Yeah, seen the big one video...she is like 6'2" and in her twenties, i'm 5"10", 150lbs and have been on chemo for a year.... no comparison. A ten year old could whup my tushy if he/she tried hard enough. There comes a time when you have to "know your limits", and i'm truthfull to a fault. I don't want to hurt the HD and lower its sale value because I refused to face facts, i'm perfectly happy to ride a smaller machine and be happy.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by mpescatori on 05/16/13 at 02:41:20

" I don't like the way the trikes steer and will probably just go to a smaller bike like the savage untill I can't hold one up anymore then maybe do an add-on trike system to it."

Hey, Old_Rider, have you ever considered going for the Real McCoy ?

http://assets1.webkite.com/datas/411212.best/original/2011%20Piaggio%20MP3%20Three%20Wheeler%20500.jpg?1309558818

Piaggio MP3 available as either 400cc or 500cc thumpers.

Leans into corners beautifully ...

http://https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRN1kZsX4nHPL_2oFUqFlbWjJrlg-3qSJfnHqRapi8rkGM7q3YI

You can even DRIFT around corners and not lay her down !

http://www.cyberscooter.it/modelli/gilera/redazione/images/fuoco500t7118.jpg

Definitely overengineered, will outlast rider

http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/2009-piaggio-mp3-scooter-13.jpg

You will certainly find chinese copies and lookalikes here and there, but  I wouldn't touch those with a bargepole... :P

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 05/16/13 at 06:22:04

Thanks for the info....piaggio has a nice 350 scooter (two wheel) that is compairable with the 300 ninja I just bought. The three wheelers would make great commuters, i'm wondering how well those scooters would hold up on a long trip....hmmm... maybe I could write an essay to piaggio and see if they would send me one to test drive for a true "durability test" across country (funded by piaggio of course!).

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by mpescatori on 05/16/13 at 07:42:06

Piaggio have an array of test riders... including some who are very "off the beaten track"!

http://put.edidomus.it/dueruote/news/foto/copertina47.jpg

They can do things you wouldn't dream of half trying with other bikes... Terriffic front suspension with unbeatable performance

http://https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRR13rg18-_JVBzWDwZpR6x1SkZm1KipjA_IdTfcGRn0A6o_-EdFg http://https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTAz6E_ZQyQnDp8bRLcFudfRk7ZpYlWRKmvmYQ7JW2c7XHmRuD

Not to mention the brakes...

http://members.modernvespa.net/glow_guy/uploads/endo2_216_733.jpg

Italians do it in style !  8-)

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by apache snow on 05/16/13 at 08:20:27

You need to go read about the MP3 on modernvespa.com.

Unlike in Italy, here in the US most dealers do not have the experience or mechanics to keep this complicated  front suspension in tune. And in the US parts are not always available and long waits are common. People here have a lot of problems with this scooter. Many sell them and are glad to be rid of the problems. :-?

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by Greg on 05/16/13 at 10:24:38

I think it would be a fun ride! Plus the 400 appears to have more horsepower and torque than our 650.

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/16/13 at 11:01:39

I could dig one of those fancy 3 wheelers that leans. As far as Im concerned, if it wont lean thru a corner, Id just as soon be in a little sports car. Cheaper to own & operate, more room, protection from the elements,

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by old_rider on 05/16/13 at 21:38:20

I kinda like the 350 two wheeler...its got some umph and gas savings to boot, also has a 3.5 gal. tank. Heck with its top speed you could take it on the interstate! LOL, could you imagine an 18 wheelers driver looking at you as you pass him on a scooter??? ROFL :o :o :-[ :'(

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by mpescatori on 05/17/13 at 02:28:25


031203010A07110C0D15620 wrote:
You need to go read about the MP3 on modernvespa.com.

Unlike in Italy, here in the US most dealers do not have the experience or mechanics to keep this complicated  front suspension in tune. And in the US parts are not always available and long waits are common. People here have a lot of problems with this scooter. Many sell them and are glad to be rid of the problems. :-?


During my 3-year stay in England, many people (women mostly) would tease me on FIAT meaning "Fix It Again, Tony!"
to which I would comment "Your Tony must be a lousy mechanic, I'm not surprised British Leyland died"

They were left speechless  ;D

The truth is, whereas I do agree the MP3's front suspension is more complicated than a simple set of hydraulic forks, it is just as true that we're talking Italian Engineering here, not English nor much less French...

...it works AND it's simple... it was invented by Piaggio, not by Citroen or Jaguar or Renault !!! (My vintage MG has an electrical system based on 2 relays and 4 (four!) fuses!)

It's just a parallelogram... essentially a rectangle that will lean right&left... what's so complicated about that ?
AND
if it can handle the potholes of Italian roads, why can't it handle the freeways of America ?

Anyway, the Piaggio MP3 is strong, sturdy, reliable and will literally ride around the world...
...if the mechanics aren't up to the job, it's not Piaggio's fault... :-[

Title: Re: S40/LS650/Savage Trike Kits
Post by 12Bravo on 05/17/13 at 06:33:32


50535B4D565B5A4D3F0 wrote:
LOL, could you imagine an 18 wheelers driver looking at you as you pass him on a scooter??? ROFL :o :o :-[ :'(


Yes I have personally seen the look on peoples faces when they get passed by a scooter. I had a Suzuki Burgman 650 for a while. The best is when you blow by someone on a cruiser while riding a scooter  ;D . I can proudly say that I have done the 'ton' on a scooter.

I will eventually have to go with a trike kit or sidecar due to arthritis and fibromyalgia. I've looked at trike kits for my S40 and V Star 1100. I'm beginning to think a sidecar that I can swap between bikes is the better option for me.

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