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Message started by trini tuner on 04/07/13 at 21:31:31

Title: Properly supporting bike when removing front wheel
Post by trini tuner on 04/07/13 at 21:31:31

So im planning on changing out my leaking fork seals soon on my bike and have been looking here in forums and have found it to be a great help. However one thing i think we often take for granted is the ways we support the bike without either front wheel or rear. When changing out my rear tire I dropped the bike a couple times before i learned a technique for standing the bike up properly (placed jack stands on either side of the bike on the pillion pegs [easier said than done]).

Lets share ideas. What are some of the ways you guys support the bike especially when removing the front tire/rebuilding front end?

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/13 at 21:34:10

Do the same thing, only use the front pegs.

Not hard to do, place jack under right peg, place jack in front of left peg.
grab the bars and wrestle it vertical, kick the jack under the left peg.

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by Serowbot on 04/07/13 at 23:23:25

DIY lift... (40 seconds to lift and secure,... (and, total lack of planning... I bumped the camera walking across the shop to get the tiedown that I forgot...otherwise, it woulda' took less than 30 seconds)... once the strap is attached,.. you can't push it over, ...even on purpose, and both wheels are up...
Best thing since toast...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbuOh9l1es[/media]

HINT.. once you find the perfect balance point for your particular bike... put a tiny dot of paint on the bottom of the bike frame at the exact point you want to engage the lift... and the bike will lift up, perfectly balanced, first try, every time...

You wouldn't believe the hours this lift has saved me... ;)...

David Copperfield couldn't levitate better... ;D...

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by engineer on 04/08/13 at 05:19:53

Serowbot you really have that down pat, easy as using a center stand.  Can you tell us how high your stand is.  The one I made is 7 1/4 inches high and is just a couple 2x8's glued and bolted together, the handle sticks out at 90 degrees and acts like a prop once the bike is up.  But it doesn't work as slick as Serowbot's.

There have been threads on the topic with lots of good suggestions.

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by WD on 04/08/13 at 06:35:46

Engine hoist and a ratchet strap.

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/13 at 06:52:37

Rafter & come along. But, Rowboats answer would be much better. It wouldnt swing around while you were rasslin wiffitt..

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by srinath on 04/08/13 at 06:57:11

I strap it and hang it from a free standing 4" aluminum "Door frame"

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by Gyrobob on 04/08/13 at 07:22:48

I use a motorcycle jack.  It works for a standard Savage, and with the cheapo wooden adapter, it works well for a RYCA bike.  

See reply #7 here for a Savage:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1304722902/7#7


And see reply #323 and #325 here for a RYCA:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1304722902/323#323

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by Serowbot on 04/08/13 at 10:34:15


42404B4049404C56250 wrote:
Serowbot you really have that down pat, easy as using a center stand.  Can you tell us how high your stand is.  The one I made is 7 1/4 inches high and is just a couple 2x8's glued and bolted together, the handle sticks out at 90 degrees and acts like a prop once the bike is up.

Mine's bigger... ;D ;D ;D...

Mine is about 8 3/4" tall,.. 31"wide...
I had to make mine taller because of the 12.25" shocks I have on the rear... (getting a regular Savage up on it, takes a little extra muscle, but it does go)...(once, with a particularly low bike, I had to run the bike's rear tire onto a 2-by before engaging the lift,... as I was starting to bend the bar trying the raise the bike)...
I'd recommend 7 1/2" or 8" for a stock height Savage...
31" wide seemed the minimum width that I could go, to still have a good tie-down support...
PS... the lift handle just pulls out of the hole, once the bike is raised, so that it don't get in the way...
;)...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/stand004.jpg

... I also rigged a little support foot for it, but it turns out that it's not at all necessary...

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/stand003.jpg

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by 87 savage on 04/08/13 at 16:05:17


2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
Rafter & come along. But, Rowboats answer would be much better. It wouldnt swing around while you were rasslin wiffitt..


I did the same as you JOG then lowered it back down a little onto a stack of 2x6 scraps. Fairly solid!

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by strang on 04/09/13 at 04:38:23

I'm gonna build me one of those. Cool design Serow.
What's the basic timber size it's built from?
2" + 4"?
Looks a bit thinner in the photo but that may be just because they always stitch you ie. 2 + 4 is actually usually only 1.75 + 3.75.
Can't trust anyone these days  :)

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by trini tuner on 04/12/13 at 15:30:17

I like that home made lift made of 2x4 it looks like it supports the bike well and makes life a lot easier, however due to the lack of space in my garage I don't think ill be making one this time. I was looking at the front pegs some more and found a perfect place to fit the jack stands so I will try that out like another member on here suggested.

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by trini tuner on 04/12/13 at 15:48:10

Ok ill post this here, So from what im reading to change the fork oil seals I need to first support bike then remove front fender and wheel, unscrew top fork caps,.. now heres the part where im reading two different things do I unscrew the bottom bolt or do I have to use a "broom handle" or "special tool" to lock on to in there to get the bottom allen bolt loose?

I know from here I have to drain oil remove dust cap and metal retainer then slide forks apart and lastly assemble it all back up drive oil seal in with pvc add oil and reinstall.

My question is is this "broom stick or special tool" really required to remove the bottom allen bolt?

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by maxtowers on 04/12/13 at 16:18:51

I went the Serowbot way, and built myself a stand in that fashion... mine it's not nice like the Serowbot's one, as a matter of fact it's pretty ugly that i thought to upload a photo of it but it is just embarrassing... But it works just fine so, when the bike will be off i probably spend some time and build a more nice one.

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by houstonbofh on 04/12/13 at 16:42:39

Mine is a stack of 5 2x4s screwed togeather with deckmate screws.  And a hole drilled in the middle that my gorilla bar fits in to life it.  Small for storage!

Title: Re: Properly supporting bike when removing front w
Post by Serowbot on 04/12/13 at 16:51:51

Mine is standard 2x4...
Trini,.. I made it light,.. so I could store it hanging from the ceiling rafter...

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