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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Engine Tune-Up Liquid /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1365356814 Message started by Coaxial on 04/07/13 at 10:46:53 |
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Title: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by Coaxial on 04/07/13 at 10:46:53 Hey guys! So it was suggested that I try this product to fix a bit of the backfiring on my savage/s40 due to the new Jardine Exhaust I put on. I realize the real fix is rejetting. I will be doing it as soon as my jets from Lancer arrive. Hopefully I wont screw it up as it is my first time. In the mean time I was told this might help. I read on the internet that this might be some snake oil. What do you guys think: http://i.imgur.com/YoM6Sipl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/D1akXb9l.jpg |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by rfw2003 on 04/07/13 at 10:52:18 That won't help the issue at all, The Jardine slip-on is one of those mufflers that is kinda hard to jet for, to get the back pops to a minimum. When I bought my Savage it had the Jardine on it. It took me awhile to get it jetted just right to minimize the back pops. You just need to play with the jetting and air screw till you get the back pops to a minimum, you won't entirely get rid of them but you will minimize them greatly, also if you control your right hand during throttle let off that will help immensely with the back pop issue as well. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by verslagen1 on 04/07/13 at 11:29:12 ya don't have hydraulic lifters sticky oil rings don't cause backfires if you had a stuck valve it wouldn't run. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by Serowbot on 04/07/13 at 11:36:21 That could be more dangerous than helpful... Don't use it... ...or dump it in yer' car... :-/... |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by Coaxial on 04/07/13 at 13:29:57 I figured as much. I might have to just dump it in a car. I didn't wanna risk it. As it stands i get alot of pop when i shift. I am trying to be gentle with the throttle let off but it seems like that makes it pop more. To decelerate i just clutch in and break no gas. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by rfw2003 on 04/07/13 at 14:05:25 624E405948404D210 wrote:
slowly let of the throttle instead of slamming it shut and that will help. But you still need to rejet the carb and play with the air mix screw. Also you may need to take the TEV valve out and clean it very good and put it back in and make sure you don't touch the valve itself with your fingers after cleaning. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/13 at 14:57:09 At least one here had a Jardine & went to a Dyna because of jetting difficulties. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by rfw2003 on 04/07/13 at 14:59:01 223D3B3C21261727172F3D317A480 wrote:
I went to the Long Emgo reverse cone because of jetting issues plus it was just to darn loud. I will soon be getting a Dyna though because this Emgo muffler is already falling apart. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by Borracho on 04/07/13 at 15:04:36 I have a Jardine. Just re-jetted, plus did spacer mod. It still pops a little on throttle, not too bad. I can probably tune it out. The grand finale big fart is still there at shutoff... |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by rfw2003 on 04/07/13 at 15:17:37 0C05061419505057600 wrote:
Leave it in 1st gear and let out on the clutch some to drop the idle like your bogging it down just before you hit the kill switch, That will take care of the shotgun shutoff. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by Coaxial on 04/07/13 at 15:37:29 http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/71/975/13846/ITEM/Jardine-Quiet-Module-Insert.aspx Will this alleviate issues? does it even fit for the jardine rumblers on the savage.. To be honest I went Jardine cause it was the cheapest solution because I found it hard to find dyna muffs over here in Toronto. Another question: It smells more gasoline'ey than stock muffler. Is this something to be concerned with? |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by rfw2003 on 04/07/13 at 15:44:50 5F737D64757D701C0 wrote:
To be honest I couldn't tell you. I never tried it. Didn't even know it was available. To me it just looks like a restricter to reduce the diameter of either the inlet or outlet of the muffler, it might help but I dought it will help much, since the Jardine is basically an open pipe type muffler. Think glass packs that you would put on a cage, and that is kinda what the Jardine is. It will still act as basically an open pipe which is the hardest to jet for. As for getting a Dyna you might try ebay, which is what I'm fixing todo since I'm having issues finding one locally myself. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by Serowbot on 04/07/13 at 16:19:57 715D534A5B535E320 wrote:
It shouldn't... you may have a fuel leak causing the popping... |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by oldNslow on 04/07/13 at 16:37:15 Quote:
Gonna try that. Here in New York I'm scared if my motorcycle sounds like a gun, sooner or later, the Gov'ment's gonna confiscate it :( |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by 45acp on 04/07/13 at 17:21:47 5B6564687A6667090 wrote:
they wont confiscate it, but you will have to keep it locked up in your closet. ;D |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by gdrseeker on 04/07/13 at 23:58:32 I have a Jardine, took a bit of messing but I have mine rejetted and tuned very well. I only get a couple slight pops here and there, no worse than my wife's with a stock muffler. I never get loud backfires any more. It just takes some time and messing. also I had mine welded to the header pipe to make sure I had no exhaust leaks. |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by Coaxial on 04/08/13 at 05:00:34 That is good to hear! I super shimmed along with muffler cement to remove the exhaust leaks.. It worked really well to prevent 50% of my pops |
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Title: Re: Engine Tune-Up Liquid Post by gdrseeker on 04/08/13 at 14:21:26 I don't think that muffler cement will last. These mufflers get up to like 2000 degrees. |
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