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Title: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by paulorlo on 04/05/13 at 12:44:51 Well I am a proud owner of a 1997 Suzuki Savage. My problem is that my sits bones, or more specifically the tissue around those bones becomes painful after a small ride (15 miles or more). I have added a gel pad with foam cover underneath the original seat cover. The front of the seat has the nylon spacers added to raise the front of the seat higher. I plan to check tire pressure to match factory single rider specifications. I have adjusted the rear shocks to the softest setting. Am I alone in this problem and has anyone else come up with a solution? |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/05/13 at 12:55:42 My solution as well as a few others here was to get the Corbin seat. yes it cost some coin but it's well worth it. Others adapt the HD sportster seat to the savage with some luck making it more comfy as well as other seats from different bikes. There are also those that have stripped the factory padding off the stock seat and totally redo it and the covering to try and make a more comfy seat as well. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by verslagen1 on 04/05/13 at 13:33:10 15 mile ride is all that it takes? How tall are you? Tall riders tend to have long legs, the higher your knees are, the more rolled back your pelvis is, placing more pressure on your tailbone. Sometimes a relief in the padding in this area can help. or you can get extended controls that'll stretch out your legs and lower your knees. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/05/13 at 13:42:22 23302726393432303B64550 wrote:
Yeah I totally forgot to mention that. That was another thing I had to add as well. I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam so I went with 6" fwd controls with as well as the Corbin seat. Man what a difference it made. I was in the same situation as the OP was, 15 to 20 miles was all it took before the rear end started to get sore then numb spots, before I made the changes. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by bill67 on 04/05/13 at 13:52:04 7362766F6C716F6C030 wrote:
I would take out those nylon spacers,that puts you back in one place, And you can't move around on the seat. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by verslagen1 on 04/05/13 at 13:56:10 The advantage to adapting another seat (HD or otherwise) is that it raises the rider, in effect lowering the knees. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Bubba on 04/05/13 at 14:17:49 Am I the only one here that doesn't have a problem with the stock seat? I mean it's not like a lounge chair or anything but I can ride 75 miles without any problem...of course I usesd to ride a road bicycle with a hard plastic seat but i don't consider myself a harda$$... ;D I also ride with my wallet in my front pocket tho' |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by EJID on 04/05/13 at 14:36:01 655245454616171F14270 wrote:
I'm only 5'9" with a 30" inseam and don't have any problems with the stock seat. I have raised the front of mine about 1" and added 4" forward controls. Still not like I'm going to ride 300+ miles a day, but I'll do 100+ without problems. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Bubba on 04/05/13 at 14:42:34 EJID...I only have a 32" inseam and I've been thinking about the forwards. To me, it seems as if that would put even more of my weight directly on the seat (sometimes I stick my legs out over the pegs to see what it would feel like). As it is now I can at least stand on the pegs a little if I pull myself up on the bars...I'm afraid that if I get too stretched out I'll just be bouncing up and down on the seat more... yes/no? |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by EJID on 04/05/13 at 15:04:07 1F283F3F3C6C6D656E5D0 wrote:
Not trying to hijack the thread, but when I first put on the extended controls I felt like my legs were almost straight out there :-[ but after riding with them for a short while I got used to them and now I really prefer them 8-) I would add them again in a heartbeat :) |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by MileHiRider on 04/05/13 at 15:06:43 Has anyone tried a sheep-skin or similar type pad on the stock seat? I'm 5' 10" the bike fits me fine, the stock seat just isn't comfortable after 30 min. or so. I can't afford a Corbin seat, which seems to be the only option. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by jcstokes on 04/05/13 at 15:27:49 I brought a polypropylene airhawk off EBAY$79US, I believe it helps a little but I'm still sorting it. In theory I will be doing a 600 odd mile trip later this month and may be able to comment better when I get back. I had a few shoulder and possibly back issues before I returned to motorcycling about 5 years ago. I fell things badly after 100 miles or so and haven't ridden much over one hundred and fifty miles in a day. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Dane Allen on 04/05/13 at 15:55:55 211601010252535B50630 wrote:
I'm 6'2" and in the 260 range and from all I've read I expected problems but I seem to do ok too. Sometimes the knees want to "deploy" to the left and right but then I just stretch a bit and squeeze the tank with the knees. I can actaully sit on the passenger part of the seat but it feels as silly as it probably looks. Any suggestions on extended forward controls? I may do the spacer option of raising the seat also. But I like the seat as is. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/05/13 at 16:19:54 496C63684C616168630D0 wrote:
I'm 6'2" and in the 260 range and from all I've read I expected problems but I seem to do ok too. Sometimes the knees want to "deploy" to the left and right but then I just stretch a bit and squeeze the tank with the knees. I can actaully sit on the passenger part of the seat but it feels as silly as it probably looks. Any suggestions on extended forward controls? I may do the spacer option of raising the seat also. But I like the seat as is.[/quote] At 6'2" I would definitely go with Routy's 6" controls and not the shorter ones that Ed.L makes. Your just 1" taller then me and the 6" ones feel great to me. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by houstonbofh on 04/05/13 at 20:39:37 7E7A7F767B7A617A777661130 wrote:
I am a big fan of sheepskin seat covers. However, you can not leave them on the bike. I have also shaved a few seats and put in softer foam covered in poly batting... Almost as good a sheepskin and more care free. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Dane Allen on 04/05/13 at 21:18:57 73677633313132010 wrote:
I'm 6'2" and in the 260 range and from all I've read I expected problems but I seem to do ok too. Sometimes the knees want to "deploy" to the left and right but then I just stretch a bit and squeeze the tank with the knees. I can actaully sit on the passenger part of the seat but it feels as silly as it probably looks. Any suggestions on extended forward controls? I may do the spacer option of raising the seat also. But I like the seat as is.[/quote] At 6'2" I would definitely go with Routy's 6" controls and not the shorter ones that Ed.L makes. Your just 1" taller then me and the 6" ones feel great to me. R.F.[/quote] Great, thanks!!! |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/05/13 at 21:30:32 55707F74507D7D747F110 wrote:
I'm 6'2" and in the 260 range and from all I've read I expected problems but I seem to do ok too. Sometimes the knees want to "deploy" to the left and right but then I just stretch a bit and squeeze the tank with the knees. I can actaully sit on the passenger part of the seat but it feels as silly as it probably looks. Any suggestions on extended forward controls? I may do the spacer option of raising the seat also. But I like the seat as is.[/quote] At 6'2" I would definitely go with Routy's 6" controls and not the shorter ones that Ed.L makes. Your just 1" taller then me and the 6" ones feel great to me. R.F.[/quote] Great, thanks!!![/quote] Anytime |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Blinky-FSO on 04/05/13 at 22:17:38 40656A61456868616A040 wrote:
I'm 6'2" and in the 260 range and from all I've read I expected problems but I seem to do ok too. Sometimes the knees want to "deploy" to the left and right but then I just stretch a bit and squeeze the tank with the knees. I can actaully sit on the passenger part of the seat but it feels as silly as it probably looks. Any suggestions on extended forward controls? I may do the spacer option of raising the seat also. But I like the seat as is.[/quote] At 6'2" I would definitely go with Routy's 6" controls and not the shorter ones that Ed.L makes. Your just 1" taller then me and the 6" ones feel great to me. R.F.[/quote] Great, thanks!!![/quote] Paul, welcome to the forum. +1 on both the Corbin and Routy's forward ciontrols. I am 6'2" and, together, they allowed me to ride the bike long distances without even thinking about the seat. Note the Corbin actually moved me an inch or two more forward than the stock seat so the forward controls became even more important. Now with that said, the Corbin and a set of controls will set you back $450 or so. Several here have had good luck with the Air Hawk II. And one other thought. I have a C50 now and it is also has a reputation for an uncomfortable seat. One of the suggestions on the Volusia form that I have never noticed on this forum is wearing padded bicycle shorts under your riding gear. Several of the folks over there swear by them. It may be worth a shot. Good hunting |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by paulorlo on 04/06/13 at 02:45:41 Yesterday after work I went to the local hardware store and bought 4 rubber stoppers/ 2 stainless steel screws and two long bolts. I drilled out center holes in all 4 rubber stoppers, countersinking two of these holes so that the screw fasteners would not hit the bike frame. I added two stoppers to the front seat hold down tang, which raised it up another 1.5 inches and the other two stoppers to the under seat front rubber buttons. The seat now sits almost level instead of sloped forward. The two under seat front stoppers hit the frame at the exact height necessary to stabilize the front of the seat. The overall riding position feels better to me, but the real test will be just riding the bike to feel if there is an improvement. I also added a soft rubber insert to the two mounting tabs the hold the rear of the seat to the frame. I am 5'10" |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by NameNotInUse on 04/09/13 at 09:37:45 6E697F66660A0 wrote:
Not to hijack this thread either but with the Corbin, is it really a huge difference in seat position? I am short but I'm a bigger girl so being pushed forward is nearly a show stopper for me. I don't want my belly resting completely on the tank. I could lose the belly, I know, but I'm thinking I can buy a Corbin before that happens. :o 5A4B5F46455846452A0 wrote:
You wouldn't happen to have pics to show that off, would you? |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Blinky-FSO on 04/09/13 at 10:46:20 ot to hijack this thread either but with the Corbin, is it really a huge difference in seat position? I am short but I'm a bigger girl so being pushed forward is nearly a show stopper for me. I don't want my belly resting completely on the tank. I could lose the belly, I know, but I'm thinking I can buy a Corbin before that happens. Shocked Name, It is kind of hard to describe but the Corbin changes the sitting posture. With the bucket shaped seat, it lowers it a bit and rocks the hips back a bit. It does move you forward to make room for the lower back support. Good hunting |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Pine on 04/09/13 at 14:35:26 Pine: 5'7" 155lbs Still using the stock seat .. though I had it re-covered with 2 types of foam .. one being memory foam. My a$$ still hurts after about 30 minutes. I have raised the front with the rubber stoppers. I have the shocks on softest setting. Bumps will knock your teeth out. Not sure whats up with that. Am I really to heavy for the soft setting? Just seems harsh to spend $350 on a seat for an inexpensive bike. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by verslagen1 on 04/09/13 at 14:47:38 if it's bottoming out, go to the next knotch. you can gain some additional travel (thus keeping a softer spring) by going to longer shocks. Stock shocks have about 1.5" of travel. 11" progressives have about 2". |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/09/13 at 15:34:11 023B3C37263D20520 wrote:
What density of memory foam did you use? Also Memory foam takes awhile to break in and conform to your rear end. Unless you used to low of a density of memory foam then you might as well of not used it to begin with. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by paulorlo on 04/09/13 at 15:38:58 I have attached some pictures of the modification. Thanks for your replies. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by paulorlo on 04/09/13 at 15:40:29 The seat now sits more level. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by paulorlo on 04/10/13 at 07:26:59 When I bought the bike three years ago, it had been hit by a large tree branch that damaged the gas tank and handle bars along with assorted other parts. So instead of replacing the gas tank, I made a tank bra to cover the damaged area. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Trippah on 04/10/13 at 08:10:10 Sheepskin covers..any thoughts on how to do. Picked one up at Ikea the other year, but since they need to be removable, any thoughts on how to make it so (as the good CPT Kirk) used to say. :-? Make the front a sleeve to slid over the "pommel" but how to connect sides and back....?? |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by Pine on 04/10/13 at 11:23:23 3B2F3E7B79797A490 wrote:
What density of memory foam did you use? Also Memory foam takes awhile to break in and conform to your rear end. Unless you used to low of a density of memory foam then you might as well of not used it to begin with. R.F.[/quote] dunno what kind of memory foam... I had it proffessionaly by a guy that normally does boat seats. It was blue. Dont think that tells one much.. actually it does seem like the seat is breaking in some... though I wish i had known that sooner.. its breaking in in the middle! |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by prechermike on 04/11/13 at 15:19:42 Here is how I made my seat more comfortable. It came from a V Star, I think, made a bracket, not too much trouble. It is a lot more comfortable. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/11/13 at 15:40:33 655C5B50415A47350 wrote:
What density of memory foam did you use? Also Memory foam takes awhile to break in and conform to your rear end. Unless you used to low of a density of memory foam then you might as well of not used it to begin with. R.F.[/quote] dunno what kind of memory foam... I had it proffessionaly by a guy that normally does boat seats. It was blue. Dont think that tells one much.. actually it does seem like the seat is breaking in some... though I wish i had known that sooner.. its breaking in in the middle![/quote] With it being blue it sounds like it's one of the gel composite memory foams. Yeah it does take a bit of time to break in. I've put about 800 miles on my Corbin and it's feeling great but still feels like it's getting a little better each time I ride it. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by johnnyyuma on 04/13/13 at 13:27:21 Hate to say it, but that stock seat is very comfortable to me. Maybe I am just built right for it.... |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by apache snow on 04/13/13 at 13:38:40 Stock seat hurts my butt after a while. I may look into getting a Corbin seat sometime. Just had all my teeth pulled and extra money is going into a set of new ones. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/13/13 at 14:25:38 263726242F2234292830470 wrote:
It's well worth the money for the Corbin, but I'll warn ya now, at first it's not much better then the original other then the seating position and the small back rest it gives you. It takes some time to break in and then it gets to feeling really good. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by apache snow on 04/13/13 at 14:30:52 Yeah, thats what I hear. They say they are really hard till they break in. My old butt is not that big any way so it would probably take me longer to get it broke in. :o |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by rfw2003 on 04/13/13 at 14:44:53 3E2F3E3C373A2C3130285F0 wrote:
Well if you order direct from Corbin it shouldn't take any longer then anyone else for yours to break in. They tailor make the seat to your body. You have to give them alot of info about yourself for them to make it so they know how far back to make it, what foam densities to use and so forth. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by apache snow on 04/13/13 at 15:05:26 Thanks for the information. If I get one it will be from them so I can get it custom made, a.s. |
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Title: Re: Establishing a comfortable seat Post by WD on 04/13/13 at 22:47:40 Stock seat was torture. Stripped off the factory foam, added 2 layers of blue 3/8" ensolite camping pad, covered it with water buffalo leather (armor weight). Ran that seat from 2000-2010. No problems with it, stock bars, 13.5" rise bars, or 15" bars. With stock pegs. Bike now wears modified 1950s Harley type half moon floorboards and a Vulcan 800A seat. 15" rise ape hangers, pushed forward instead of inline with the forks. Rear shocks swapped for 1996 800 Intruder units, Lisa and I traded shocks, her Intruder has Savage take offs (she's short). Forks have extra fluid in them. I'm 6'2" 240ish, 34" inseam, size 13/14eee boots and 4-6x gloves. Bike almost fits now. Comfortable seat on a Savage? Unfortunately, there is more to ergonomics than just the seat. |
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