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Message started by Doody814 on 04/02/13 at 06:36:53

Title: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by Doody814 on 04/02/13 at 06:36:53

So in addition to "Problem 1" (which I've posted separately), I also am having trouble getting it started.

After installing new handlebars, I fired it up and went for a quick test ride. I stopped at the store, two miles away, and it wouldn't start.

It was in neutral, clutch in, kickstand down, pushed the button...and nothing. After putting it in gear & back in neutral, squeezing the clutch, turning the key on & off, and everything else I could think of...several times, it finally hit.

I cruised on back home, turned it off, tried to start it again...nothing! I did all of the above, yet again, several times, and it started.

It seems as though there is a loose connection on a wire somewhere, or a switch going bad, or something. I've got a feeling it's something silly, that I'm missing, but I'll be danged if I could find it! Anyone run into this before? Any suggestions?

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/13 at 06:56:26

If youve had the tank off, for sure have a look at the connector under it. If not, have a look anyway. Ive known of one case where the darn thing just worked loose,

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by savagerider87 on 04/02/13 at 06:56:56

try checking the connections on the clutch safety switch, there is a wire that plugs into that switch and if its even slightly loose, it wont turn over. I had to replace the switch on mine when I bought it. hope this helps and good luck! PS the switch is located on the bottom of the clutch perch ;)

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by Doody814 on 04/02/13 at 07:08:41

4B594E595F5D4A515C5D4A000F380 wrote:

try checking the connections on the clutch safety switch...

Now that you mention it, I noticed the safety clip on the connector was broken when I unplugged it. I'll try fiddling with it, to see if that's what it is. Thanks!

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/13 at 07:11:32

YOu can jumper that pair of wires for testing purposes.

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by verslagen1 on 04/02/13 at 07:19:19

In all this you didn't mention trying the kickstand
If it's up, it will start in gear, so be carefull.

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by Doody814 on 04/02/13 at 09:40:16

342730312E2325272C73420 wrote:

In all this you didn't mention trying the kickstand
If it's up, it will start in gear, so be carefull.

Yeah, I tried it up & down, clutch in & out, in neutral & out, kill switch on & off, eyes crossed, tongue out, you name it! ;D

It would hit for a split second, then miss, then finally hit again & start. It acted like a short, that's why I'm thinking it's that clutch switch...I'm going to start there, when I get home.

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by verslagen1 on 04/02/13 at 09:50:42

check you got the connectors on right, very easy to miss the spade with the socket and still look ok cause of the cover.

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/13 at 17:11:48

Snotta "short" its a lousy connection. Could be on the battery, could be a ground on the case, That Hit & miss thing sounds just like a connection thats Aaaaalmost okay,, but resistive. Current thru it creates heat, increasing resistance.

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by Doody814 on 04/03/13 at 06:52:31

So, I started fiddling with the clutch switch, and it looked like it was solid, and making good contact. I began squeezing the lever to see when the switch engaged and disengaged, and I noticed that it never seemed to disengage!

Out of all the things I looked at, it never occured to me that when I replaced the bars, I also replaced the grips...which are larger Dia! When I pulled in the lever, it contacted the grip before the switch disengaged. A little minor adjustment later, and Viola!!!

Sometimes when you've looked at everything, the problem ends up being a loose nut on the seat! ;D
Thanks for all the help guys!

Title: Re: Problem 2 - Trouble Starting
Post by ZAR on 04/03/13 at 19:58:49

527979726F2E2722160 wrote:

Good catch Doody! And remember..... if we were'nt "loose nutz" we wouldn't even be riding theese dang deathtraps! ;D