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Message started by pgambr on 03/25/13 at 12:51:25

Title: Top end?
Post by pgambr on 03/25/13 at 12:51:25

I have a 06 s40 and it is a great bike. I would like to get a little more out of the top end if possible Mine comfortably cruises at 75 and will go just above 80. Is their much I can do without doing a pretty significant overhaul? Thanks, best regards.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by WD on 03/25/13 at 13:31:59

Weight reduction, Dyna muffler, properly rejet the carb. You can get hot cam kits, oversized bore kits, etc.

The faster you go, the worse the bike gets. Just an FYI.

The frame, brakes and suspension are designed for cruising or sustained operation under 65mph. Put bluntly, they suck. The bike is 1960s engineering with mid 1970s ignition components.

Not trying to dash your hopes, but as a performance platform, the Savage is a snail.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/25/13 at 13:39:54

In the tech section there's a thread about horses.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by mikey2004 on 03/25/13 at 13:49:09

WD is right but it is the best snail I have ever owned. great starter bike just stay out of the fast lane on the high way.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by engineer on 03/25/13 at 14:00:19

The bike doesn't feel all that comfortable to me when it approaches its' top speed. It is a thumper, great torque and acceleration around town. I honestly wouldn't want to go any faster on it which is why I now have a more suitable bike for those times when I want to go out and run at higher speeds for any length of time.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/25/13 at 16:14:39

Going to a higher sidewall ratio, like the Dunlop, helps some,
O course, your size, the weather, all kinds of things impact how its running on any given day. Ive seen 100 on it, ONCE, more often than not, 85ish is about it,,

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by engineer on 03/25/13 at 18:20:32

I do have well worn OEM tires so maybe I shouldn't comment on road feel at high speed until I put on some decent tires.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/25/13 at 19:08:28

new they are barely acceptable.
worn out oem tires are the worst.
I got a set cheap and tried them out.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/26/13 at 07:28:21

The rear OEM always felt slick in corners. I never was able to really trust it. Thankfully, it was toast at 5,000 miles. I did learn to work the bike the corners in low traction situations, cuz it always felt greasy. After that tire, the peg ends started getting reshaped.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by ZAR on 03/26/13 at 20:02:42

Unlike some of the others,I'M comfortable at Interstate speeds(70-75mph) on my Savage. I have the Memphis "Slim" windshield and larger saddlebags and the bike feels stable at those speeds,even when passing 18 wheelers. The tires are getting worn to below 1/4 tread now and the rear does feel "greasy" in hard turns so I'm ordering tires soon(have to be ready to follow OF and MMRanch up the mountains :o in June).

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by rfw2003 on 03/26/13 at 22:20:56

I have the route 66 tires on mine and the Slip Streamer Enterprise II big windshield and mine feels completely stable at 75 on the super slab even around the big rigs. Only thing I don't like about it, is the high revs. I really need to get that chain conversion done to get those revs down to a respectable level.

R.F.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by WD on 03/26/13 at 22:23:49

I'm not uncomfortable at speed on mine. On the old forum (LS650 dot net) I had the fastest one in the world for awhile. Stripped it of everything I could pull off and still make it go and stop. Even had lightweight alloy strut bars instead of shocks. The engine got so hot I'm honestly surprised it ever ran again, it should have grenaded.

The frame is a big limiting factor, it lacks the high speed stiffness needed to keep it from twisting itself out of kilter and "unloading" at the worst possible time.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/27/13 at 08:02:52

I guess Someone hasta have the fastest one, but IDK how fast that fastest one IS.. & I would guess that its someone with a stage 2 cam who has the fastest now..So, anyone got an idea who has the meanest one & how mean izzitt?

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by WD on 03/27/13 at 08:43:03

No clue, but best bet would be somebody in Germany. That's where the wildest versions seem to originate the most frequently these days.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/27/13 at 09:07:08

Well, it's been supercharged, turbocharged, bored, recarbed, reheadered, ported, lightened, new front end, hardtailed, monoshocked, fat tired, tall tired... and god knows what else (I'm not tellin' [smiley=evil.gif] )

The question is... what do you really want?

If you want the hottest thumber this side of kingdom come, becareful, the cross over is rough.

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by rfw2003 on 03/27/13 at 15:39:57

706374756A6761636837060 wrote:

hrmmm wonder what size turbo you would use on a 652cc thumper? That and a DIY EFI might make an interesting combo 8-)

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by SALB on 03/27/13 at 15:47:56

Hmmm.....I wonder if anyone has ever hooked up a bottle of laughing gas, and what the results were? [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif]

Title: Re: Top end?
Post by SkyHigh on 03/27/13 at 22:40:45

1106000C0313610 wrote:

I have a stock 2011 S40 with 5,300 miles on it. I've gone 97 MPH on a flat. remote highway, testing how fast it can go. But I won't do that again because that's a little crazy -- even though it's fun. ::)

I routinely ride 75 - 80 MPH on I-10 here in Phoenix. One needs to go that fast because the cages are doing 80 easy.

The bike has no problem doing 75 - 80, but I think 80 really should be the top-end for it: 1) you want to keep a little left in play in case you need to shoot past something; 2) one mistake and you're toast; and 3) you don't want to beat the machine to death.

If you want to head out on the open highway for something like interstate travel, I think a bigger bike would prudent -- like a Suzuki C50 (http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/Boulevard%20C50/2013/C50.aspx) or M90 (http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/Boulevard%20M90/2013/M90.aspx).

I'm very happy with my S40, though. It's my first bike, and I'm keeping her. 8-)