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Message started by lord0 on 03/14/13 at 10:59:56

Title: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by lord0 on 03/14/13 at 10:59:56

Does anybody have any good recommendations for a brand/type of exhaust wrap?

Also, I live at the beach and the salty air/fog is ruining the paint so i pretty much have to repaint the tank, rear fender, and handlebars. I know that for the exhaust I need a high temp paint. My bike is a standard flat black and I want to keep it that way.

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by lord0 on 03/14/13 at 11:00:54

PCH

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by Dave on 03/14/13 at 13:03:41

Exhaust - It lives a hard life.....lit is an awful lot of heat for paint. The paint will usually get little tiny cracks from the heat cycles....then throw some salt laden air on it and it will not hold up for long. If you are going to paint it yourself use a High Heat 2,000 degree type exhaust paint with Ceramic......most auto parts stores or Big Box stores carry it. Be sure to prepare the surface (sand blast) and cure it properly if you want it to have any chance of being durable. I don't know anything about brands of heat wrap - but the pipe will rust underneath the wrap.....guaranteed. The heat wrap holds the heat in and the pipe will get hotter than the paint can withstand.

If you want the exhaust more durable than you can do yourself and don't mind spending a little bit......having it professionally coated is the best. This company is very affordable and they have excellent reviews. They charge $ 14.00 a foot for pipes up to 2" diameter.
http://boneheadperformance.com/

Paint - For your tanks and fenders.....if you are just using flat black primer it is not durable. You need a flat black paint with a primer underneath. I used a 2 part epoxy paint called Hot Rod Black on a trailer and it holds up well - but does require spray equipment.

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by SALB on 03/14/13 at 14:22:21

Not to dis your bike, but one stray pebble off the front tire, and you're going to learn a whole new definition of "burn". [smiley=cry.gif] If you search the Tech section, there are a few good posts on how to put it on the swingarm.

As far as the exhaust paint, some of us have just used BBQ/wood stove paint. It holds up to the heat, and is easy to touch up.

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/13 at 15:02:57

If I lived in such a hostile environment Id probably not wrap a pipe. But then, I dont think carpet makes any sense at all, either,,I mean, I wear clothes, they get dirty, I wash them.. aint no waaaaay the vacuum is dragging all the syuff UP that goes down, SOOOO,, Way on down in there, crud is accumulating,, Now, if that crud is accumulating on a chromed pipe that gets Hotternhell & wet, what are the odds it aint gonna rust all up, wrapped up & lookin good? I can rub on a pipe & keep it from goin all to heck, IF its not hidden from me. Orr,, If I was a rich feller, Id get a ceramic coating.

Ohh yea, theyve changed the name of Ospho, its only about $8.00 a quart. I usually get a coupla years out a quart.Kelly Moore or any paint store has it. I dont think Lowes does. Dont get the gel.

Looks to me like the battery is protected. Seems to be sitting in a metal
U shaped thing.
What beach is it?
I keep Ospho around. Its a dilute phosphoric acid. The chemical reaction with iron oxide changes it to iron phosphate. Kills surface rust. Brass brushes dont scratch chrome. Those annoying dots creeping up[ in the chrome can be dealt with.,

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by lord0 on 03/14/13 at 15:09:49

Dave, thanks for the advice and the heads-up on the rust "issue" with the exhaust wrap. My exhaust unfortunately is already showing signs of rust (from the salty air). I was planning re finishing the paint on the exhaust. I have access to a manufacturing facility that has a spray booth and have a little experience with sanding and painting. I wanted to do the exhaust wrap for two reasons:
1. To help prevent my boots from melting
2. To keep the heat trapped, so that the excess gas burns off.

If there are any issues anyone sees with this please let me know!

SALB, no offense taken! I have slowly, but surely embraced what the road has given me (sand, pebbles, etc...) and I am learning to love it ;D
great idea with the BBQ paint too!

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by lord0 on 03/14/13 at 15:13:50

justin_o_guy2, I live in Encinitas, CA (San Diego County)

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by lord0 on 03/14/13 at 15:42:37

Here are some pics of the exhaust

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by lord0 on 03/14/13 at 15:43:59

Close-up

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/13 at 18:54:56

Dude! Wipe some rust killer on it & roll. YOu cant wrap the whole thing, anyway. Its not gonna rust out from under ya in the next coupla days. I wish youd try the Ospho..

Ohh, I looked, its now Jasco, same bottle, different label, AND it costs

Less! I was shocked,
If ya dont like that solution ( get it? I said "solution" talking about an acidic fluid) you can always wrap it up later.
Maybe you could sell some hair & get a ceramic coating put on it..

Rotten kids,,still got HAIR,, dangitt.. Keep a good helmet on that hair & wrapped around that young & as yet presentable face,,I put a dent in the cab corner on a pickup with my face. The chin coverage kept me from getting my face caved in.

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by spacepirates on 03/14/13 at 20:16:05

Go ahead and wrap your pipe if you want. will it rust faster? absolutely. will it significantly cut down on the life of your bike? probably not. it might make a pipe only last 15 years instead of 20 or 25 though. For saving your boots/skin/gear, wrap will work. Be careful of some cheap brands though: black wrap won't stay black and white will get dirty real quick.

There is also 'enamel' paint you can get that works well for body parts. something like:
http://www.amazon.com/PlastiKote-229-Clear-Engine-Enamel/dp/B000CPC5P6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1363317184&sr=8-4&keywords=engine+enamel+spray+clear

will work. a two-parter paint will always be better though. most of those require spray equipment, though a few are available in rattle cans if that is your style. i think they are called 2k urethane paints.

keep in mind that 80% of a good paint job is prep work. make sure all your parts are super clean and there aren't any particulates (dust and the like) that will get on your drying parts. I've had very good success with a rust-oleum primer, semi gloss, and then that dupli-color engine enamel on two gas tanks. I wouldn't trust it to withstand a lot of gasoline spillage, but it works if you are careful.

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by ToesNose on 03/15/13 at 04:14:57

152E2334252932342F272A35460 wrote:

if you are just using flat black primer it is not durable.

Yea most people don't reolize that the majority of primers are actually semi-porous, so paintint with it or leaving it on an unfinished project like a car or bike that sits outdoors will actually make it rust quicker unless it is a special non-porous primer. My Pops was a auto body man.

Oh BTW cool bike Lord and great mop of hair too. When I met my old lady I had hair half way down my back, now if I try to grow it at all she tells me how much she disslikes it long :-? Keep that hair and stay single as long as you can LOL ;D (walks away grumbling "At least she won't make me shave my mud........")

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by Boofer on 03/15/13 at 05:51:55

Rustoleum 2000 degree primer and paint from Auto Zone. About $20-25 for both. Mine has lasted about 1500 miles, so far. Preperation is the key.

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by rat907 on 03/15/13 at 19:32:42

I went with a glass pack and chrome tail peice on my exhaust mod. I found 25 ft of header wrap at a darn good price on Amazon and wrapped from the muff clamp to the head with a 50% overlap. The wraps face down as they should and 3 inch stainless worm clamps look alright to fasten it down. The glass pack paint is half burned off already, I figured it would get ugly since the paint is forgotten after the showroom pre sale. VHT makes a 2000 degree header paint in flat and thats what I'll do when I get around to it.

Urethane paint all the way for body parts. It's fuel resistant when you doze off at the gas pump, tough finish that cleans and shines nice. Frame paint I would opt for POR 15 from Eastwood, its tough undercarriige paint used by auto restorers in black or red.

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Post by Borracho on 03/15/13 at 20:49:31

Nice ride, Spicoli!

Title: Re: recommendations for exhaust wrap, and paint.
Post by WD on 03/16/13 at 20:44:05

BBQ paint for the pipe. Did mine the first time in 2000, has been touched up twice since. The last time about 6 years ago.

I used to live a block and a half off the Gulf of Mexico in Long Beach Mississippi. The ONLY paints that could take the salt air were Detron, Delthane, Imron and Bright Side (yacht paint). Rustoleum tended to turn into "Crustoleum" pretty quickly. Lacquer was about as useful as water, would never cure in the humidity.

I've painted a lot of stuff in marine environments. If you can't spring for high end urethanes, get boat or pier spec paints. Can't swing those, get tractor paint. Push come to shove, the soy based stuff from the big rig shop holds up okay.

Nice scoot. And keep the hair, cut mine in 2011 for Locks of Love after my brother in law died and still only have an 11" pony tail. Which I guess is okay considering I had it cut to SS officer specs... ::)