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Message started by Super Thumper on 03/02/13 at 17:56:34

Title: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by Super Thumper on 03/02/13 at 17:56:34

Want to put a larger rear wheel on your Savage?

Here's a list of Suzuki models for you... all with 17" rear rims - various front wheel sizes.

Courtesy of www.windsorcycles.com

CC        YR          MODEL              FRONT          REAR      


250      82-85      DR250               3.00-21        5.10-17      
250      80-81      GS250T              3.00-18        3.50-17      
250      82-85      SP250               3.00-21        4.60-17      
400      6-May      DR-Z400SM           120/70-17      140/70-17      
400      91-93      GSF400 BANDIT       110/70-17      150/70-17      
450      81-82      GS450T/TX           90/90-19       110/90-17      
500      88-06      GS500E/F            110/70-17      130/70-17  
550      80         GS550L              3.25-19        4.50-17    
550      81         GS550T              3.25-19        4.25-17  
600      95-99      GSF600S/X BANDIT    110/70-17      150/70-17
600      3-Jan      GSF600S BANDIT      120/60-17      160/60-17    
600      0          GSF600SY BANDIT     110/70-17      150/60-17    
600      88-97      GSX600F KATANA      110/80-17      140/80-17    
600      98-06      GSX600F KATANA      120/70-17      150/70-17    
600      97-98      GSX-R600            120/70-17      180/55-17  
600      92-93      GSX-R600            120/70-17      170/60-17    
600      99-06      GSX-R600            120/70-17      180/55-17    
600      94-96      RF600R              120/70-17      160/60-17    
600      94-96      SP600 1985          100/80-21      130/80-17      
650      6-Mar      BURGMAN 650         120/70-15      160/60-14      
650      90-91      DR650S              90/90-21       120/90-17      
650      92-97      DR650S              90/90-21       120/90-17      
650      98-06      DR650S/E            90/90-21       120/90-17
650      81-83      GS650G              3.25-19        4.25-17    
650      83         GS650M KATANA       3.25-19        4.25-17    
650      99-06      SV650/S             120/60-17      160/60-17    
650      6-Apr      DL650 V-STROM       110/80-19      150/70-17      
700      85         GS700E/ES           100/90-16      120/90-17    
750      82-83      GS750T              3.50-19        4.50-17      
750      89-97      GSX750F KATANA      110/80-17      150/70-17  
750      98-99      GSX750F/X KATANA    120/80-17      150/70-17    
750      00-06      GSX750F KATANA      120/70-17      150/70-17    
750      88-89      GSX-R750            120/70-17      160/60-17      
750      91-95      GSX-R750            120/70-17      170/60-17      
750      96-99      GSX-R750            120/70-17      190/50-17    
750      99         GSX-R750            120/70-17      190/50-17    
750      00-06      GSX-R750            120/70-17      180/55-17      
800      90-93      VX800               110/80-18      150/70-17      
850      79-83      GS850G              3.50-19        4.50-17      
850      80         GS850GL             3.50-19        4.50-17    
850      83         XN85 TURBO          100/90-16      120/90-17  
900      94-97      RF900R              120/70-17      170/60-17  
1000      6-Feb     DL1000 V-STROM      110/80-19      150/70-17      
1000      78-80     GS1000E             3.50-19        4.50-17  
1000      80-81     GS1000G             3.50-19        4.50-17    
1000      80        GS1000GL            3.50-19        4.50-17  
1000      79        GS1000L             3.50-19        4.50-17    
1000      82        GS1000S KATANA      3.50-19        4.50-17  
1000      1         GSX-R1000/K1        120/70-17      180/55-17  
1000      6-Feb     GSX-R1000           120/70-17      190/50-17    
1000      6-Mar     SV1000/S            120/70-17      180/55-17      
1000      98-03     TL1000R             120/70-17      190/50-17      
1000      97-01     TL1000S             120/70-17      190/50-17      
1100      80-83     GS1100E/ES          3.50-19        4.50-17    
1100      80        GS1100L             3.50-19        4.50-17  
1100      83        GS1100S KATANA      3.50-19        4.50-17    
1100      82-83     GS11OOG             3.50-19        4.50-17    
1100      91-93     GSX1100G            120/70-17      160/70-17    
1100      89        GSX-R1100           120/70-17      160/60-17    
1100      90        GSX-R1100           130/60-17      180/55-17    
1100      91-92     GSX-R1100           120/70-17      180/55-17  
1100      93-98     GSX-R1100           120/70-17      180/55-17    
1150      84-86     GS1150E/ES          110/90-16      130/90-17      
1200      5-Jan     GSF1200 BANDIT      120/70-17      180/55-17    
1200      97-99     GSF1200S/X BANDIT   120/70-17      180/55-17  
1200      00-03     GSF1200S            120/70-17      180/55-17  
1300      99-06     GSX1300R HAYABUSA   120/70-17      190/50-17    
1556      6-May     BOULEVARD M95       130/70-17      170/60-17    
1600      4         VZ 1600 MARAUDER    130/70-17      170/60-17      
     

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/13 at 19:01:23

Can that be done w/o cutting on the swing arm?

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/13 at 19:31:34

anything ending in G is a shaft drive... don't get those.

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/13 at 19:45:09

this one won't work

650      6-Mar      BURGMAN 650         120/70-15      160/60-14    

Have you tried any of these?

Are you going to include a list that might be bolt on?

Do you know most of these are cast?

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/13 at 20:05:13


293630372A2D1C2C1C24363A71430 wrote:
Can that be done w/o cutting on the swing arm?

You'll have to use low profile tires.

you'd have better luck with 16" IMO

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by Super Thumper on 03/03/13 at 09:18:54

OK...I wanted to get rid of my OEM 15" rear wheel which in my humble opinion is too small. I tried to find all the Suzuki 17" rear wheels during a web search and simply did a copy and paste into this file...I didn't sort it for shaft drive or cast wheels since most of that info wasn't available from my search terms. I thought this might help someone find a 17" rear wheel that might fit the OEM swingarm....the rear brake torque arm will have to be fabricated for almost all of these wheels minus the shaft drive ones...thanks for the feedback  folks, as always I like to hear it.

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by Super Thumper on 03/03/13 at 09:45:01

Up here in Vermont we ride the back roads most of the time since there is only one interstate highway  in the whole stat . These roads can be narrow, bumpy, cracked and are sometimes gravel that can be dangerous if not ridden on a bike that can handle well. My 2001 Savage handles OK but I want more. I am looking at replacing the OEM 15" rear wheel with a 17" to give the bike a more balanced look...not a tail dragger like I think it looks like now. I also think a 17" rear wheel will improve the handling a little bit...a 17" 140 tire will have a slightly longer contact area with the ground due to its larger circumference while the width of the contact area will be the same. I little more rubber on the ground will help in my humble opinion. I already have a set of Harley Sportster 12 1/2" progressive shocks that will go on even if I don't get the rear wheel change sorted out before riding season starts.
By raising the rear a few inches I seek to improve the tail heavy balance to a more neutral one with out the expense of shortening the front forks as RYCA has done with their kits. Ground clearance can be an issue on some of the dirt roads here so I will never shorten the front fork tubes.

Except for necessary maintenance and repairs I stop all work on my personal bikes during the riding season...Up here in Vermont we ride from early march until sometimes early December depending on the weather of course.  ..I experiment during the winter when I have the time to fix what gets screwed up.  :o

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by SALB on 03/04/13 at 20:04:52

Have you considered 150/90-15 tire.  The circumference is about the same as the low profile 17 you would have to use, and will fit a stock bike with minor clearanceing.  You'll also have a lot more side wall to absorb some of the bumps.  

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by Super Thumper on 03/05/13 at 06:56:13

I haven't thought of that but now that you mention it I will look into it......good idea!

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your sav
Post by Serowbot on 03/05/13 at 14:31:09

Hi SuperT,..
Noticed that you posted this list in the Tech Section...

It's not really Tech Section info...  
In there,.. we need the the results that may come from this type of list..
Once someone finds and buys specific wheel, and puts up a how-to with pics of the install...
That would be Tech material...

The list you posted, has been posted here before...
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1356838187/8#8

Anyway... the Tech post has been removed...
Let's wait and see if anybody gets a wheel and runs with it... - Serow :)...

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by Super Thumper on 03/06/13 at 08:27:51

OK....sorry...I wasn't sure where to post that kind of info but now I know...thanks.

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by teabowl13 on 03/06/13 at 16:34:06


495A4D4C535E585A510E3F0 wrote:
[quote author=293630372A2D1C2C1C24363A71430 link=1362275795/0#1 date=1362279683]Can that be done w/o cutting on the swing arm?

You'll have to use low profile tires.

you'd have better luck with 16" IMO[/quote]

The RYCA bikes are using 18" rims laced to their stock hubs with standard profile tires (I think they are; they might be low-profile... Their site says they are 130/70H-18) and no issues; the guys using the Vintage Firestone tires with high profiles on their 18" rims are the only ones I've heard of that need to have their swingarm braces modified.

Not sure if you can find another whole wheel to swap in, but you could get a 17" rim and order spokes for it from Buchannan's. I was intimidated by the idea, but it's not that hard to do.
You could also look for another 17" rim from a bike with spoke wheels, as long as it has 36 spokes and drum brakes, the rim should work laced onto your stock hub....

Options!

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by Gyrobob on 03/06/13 at 17:24:32


08393D3E332B306D6F5C0 wrote:
[quote author=495A4D4C535E585A510E3F0 link=1362275795/0#4 date=1362283513][quote author=293630372A2D1C2C1C24363A71430 link=1362275795/0#1 date=1362279683]Can that be done w/o cutting on the swing arm?

You'll have to use low profile tires.

you'd have better luck with 16" IMO[/quote]

The RYCA bikes are using 18" rims laced to their stock hubs with standard profile tires (I think they are; they might be low-profile... Their site says they are 130/70H-18) and no issues; the guys using the Vintage Firestone tires with high profiles on their 18" rims are the only ones I've heard of that need to have their swingarm braces modified.

Not sure if you can find another whole wheel to swap in, but you could get a 17" rim and order spokes for it from Buchannan's. I was intimidated by the idea, but it's not that hard to do.
You could also look for another 17" rim from a bike with spoke wheels, as long as it has 36 spokes and drum brakes, the rim should work laced onto your stock hub....

Options!
[/quote]


I paid to have RYCA relieve the swingarm to make room for the tire with the 18" rim.  I put on an Avon Speedmaster 4.00-18 tire, and it rubs the swingarm.

Title: Re: Want to  put a 17" rear wheel on your savage?
Post by ToesNose on 08/12/13 at 04:59:39

Gyrobob the problem is the OD of your SM 4.00-18 which is 26.7, how much did they notch it out?  It would have to be notched out nearly 3/4" for it not to rub   :o

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