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Message started by Serowbot on 02/15/13 at 07:41:58

Title: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by Serowbot on 02/15/13 at 07:41:58

Wow!...
You okay, Wambr?...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI[/media]

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by MiCTLaN on 02/15/13 at 08:03:13

This page has a few really good videos, the second and fourth ones are pretty interesting, showing the results of the shock wave.

http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2013/02/14/what-is-happening-in-chelyabinsk

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by Serowbot on 02/15/13 at 08:36:57

MiC,..
The second and third videos,... made me jump... :-?...

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by Paraquat on 02/15/13 at 11:12:29

I can't see the videos here at work. Everyone on facebook is talking about it.
How did people get hurt? Did we not know it was coming?


--Steve

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by Serowbot on 02/15/13 at 12:12:30

Reports of 1,000 people with minor injuries... mostly falling glass and ceiling debris from the shockwave...
Biggabadda boom!...  ;)...

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/15/13 at 21:41:13

They didnt see that one coming.. good thing it didnt plow straight in,,Shazzam!

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by wambr on 02/16/13 at 00:44:53


7D6B7C61796C617A0E0 wrote:
Wow!...
You okay, Wambr?...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI[/media]

in Russia, we have already answered so: Chelyabinsk residents are so harsh that, instead of the alarm clock
they have the shock wave...
"the Alien ship for landing, seeing Chelyabinsk, chose to explode"
"Just yesterday in the Europa League won just three of the Russian club, than was violated by the cosmological balance of the planet"
"Nothing so inspiring, as in the morning meteorite"
"thanks to Putin to the earth flew a small part of the meteorite, the rest on the road sawed"" ;D

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/13 at 06:40:11

Wambr, is it true that there are some in Russia who have said it was an American weapons test?

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by arteacher on 02/16/13 at 07:19:44

In 1904 my great grandfather and his brother saw one fall and followed it to it's landing site. It broke into two pieces in the air and a chip broke off on impact. They gave the largest piece to the University of Western Ont, and kept a piece about 8" in diameter, and the chip that broke off. I remember playing with them as a child. They were ordinary chondrite.

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/13 at 07:28:47

I like to watch Meteorite Men, What a fun way to make a dollar,.

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by wambr on 02/16/13 at 08:19:43


47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
Wambr, is it true that there are some in Russia who have said it was an American weapons test?

Jog, ha-ha! we in Russia does not think!even at the subconscious level...

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by mpescatori on 02/16/13 at 08:32:20

I would love to ask an astrophysicist, but I only have the Café to ask, you brace up guys, here's the Nobel-prize winning question :

Meteorites are... rocks, whth this and that frozen inside them.

In August we are all out there with our noses in the air to see "shooting starts" and "falling stars" as earth whizzes through an area thick with small meteors.

All we see at night are ... shooting stars, i.e. burning pindots with a trail of sparks.
During the day the larger ones should still be visible, and sometimes the careful observer
(schoolage children and their granddads, as everybody else is at work)
will see a streak of yellow/orange in the blue sky.

NOW, WHAT DID WE SEE ? STEAM ? VAPORS ? TONS OF VAPORS ?

Sorry, folks, it doesn't add up.

I don't believe the "American weapon" thing, simply because American weapons can't fly that high.

Virgin Spaceliners can... chinese ricers will... Australian corco'wrestlers might, given the proper fuel  ;D

But frankly, given Pres. Putin's furious reaction
"With all the high technology we have, why didn't you see it coming ahead of time?"
means to me... it could have been spotted ahead of time.

Now, we're talking of a rock the size of a schoolbus, with ZERO radio emissions, so radar etc cannot track it.

So, what could be tracked the size of a schoolbus? Anything with radio emissions, be it a satellite gone haywire
(and we KNOW where they ALL are, from the very first one including all those switched off) or... be it...

http://https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTre_MlE8o-gPdYNJdJJFON5Y6Y4KZTRav9QybrxpmiYNQSQceMjA

Houston, YOU have a problem...  ;)
http://pics.livejournal.com/toddalcott/pic/001dxr4k/s320x240 ] http://architettitrieste.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/dr-strangelove-3-copy1.jpg?w=300&h=225

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by arteacher on 02/16/13 at 09:35:22

Actually a meteor is a meteor 'till it hits the ground- then it becomes a meteorite. ;)

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/13 at 10:20:54

Now, we're talking of a rock the size of a schoolbus, with ZERO radio emissions, so radar etc cannot track it.


Radar doesnt need emissions to track. YOu got lied to on 9/11.
If that were true, then we wouldnt need to spend Big $$$ on Radar Avoidance Technology for the Air Force. All theyd have to do it Turn off the Radio!
( That such basic understandings must be explained causes me to be unable to accept the observations others provide & DEFEND)
Radar biunces high frequency waves off of things & measures the time from transmission to reflected reception to determine location, cvourse, size & speed. A school bus sized rock has a Wonderful radar profile.

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/18/13 at 00:31:49

In space the rock is called a meteroid (or asteroid if large enough)

In Earth's atmosphere, said rock is called a meteor

On Earth's surface flying space rock is known as a meteorite

Amazing cosmic co-inky-dink that on the same day that our Blue Marble gets a close shave from a 144,000 ton asteroid, it gets a nick from a 10 ton rock over Russia!

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by mpescatori on 02/18/13 at 05:54:52

All this arguing whether it's called a thing, or a thingy or a thingoid still doesn't answer my quesiton :

With all the hi-tech the russians are supposed to have (so states Pres.Putin)
why couldn't / didn't they see it in time ?

It makes you think they should have seen it in time, and that doesn't read nicely in my science scrapbook...

:-?

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by wambr on 02/18/13 at 06:40:18

thank you guys, what you experience for us! but it's a bit too much... Yes in Chelyabinsk suffered approximately 1,500 people (on the official data) but they have suffered only from the fragments of shattered windows . the Russians are very curious, we are very interested to see how the flies meteorite . meteorite fell into the lake Chebarkul and a piece of a meteorite yet did not find any. I have a sister lives very close and she told me that she was a powerful explosion , when the meteorite fell..

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/18/13 at 08:20:45


3C2134223230253E2338510 wrote:
All this arguing whether it's called a thing, or a thingy or a thingoid still doesn't answer my quesiton :

With all the hi-tech the russians are supposed to have (so states Pres.Putin)
why couldn't / didn't they see it in time ?

It makes you think they should have seen it in time, and that doesn't read nicely in my science scrapbook...

:-?


Here you M ...

http://russianforces.org/did_russian_early-warning_syst.html

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by Pine on 02/18/13 at 08:28:14

It was my understanding that this thing was the size of a beachball. The OTHER meteor that is to pass within 17,000 is the larger one.

According to what I saw.. no one is looking at the smaller stuff as there is just too much of it and its too hard to detect. Though that is to change in the future. A new satillite is to be put in orbit between the earth and Venus ( looking back away from the sun). This will yeild a veiw with less conjestion from sunlight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtesZxRlqOE

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by mpescatori on 02/19/13 at 03:19:08

Thanks, Perry  ;) it made for VERY interesting reading !

Pine, according to the article Perry earmarked,
"The meteorite that exploded over Chelyabinsk on February 15, 2013, was a pretty big thing - NASA estimated that it was about 15-17 meters in size and weighed 7-10 tonnes."

Long and heavy as a full size Greyhound Liner

http://www.lorrysmotel-lbi.com/images/370_greyhound_bus.jpg

which, IMHO, has enough cubic capacity to host enough Borgs to make me think...
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE !!!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9EAyQYAkswQ/TSItTi8sQLI/AAAAAAAAAy8/lt-zaakMSFg/s1600/jr.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6F3LlQ-c2jA/TWbLo7r7kBI/AAAAAAAAFtY/eZIj_yd-cxQ/s1600/7of9.jpeg

(Especially with those curves...  :D)

;)

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/19/13 at 05:19:17

You are welcome M ... though, the size estimates for last Friday's Russian meteor keep increasing from the original estimate of 10 tons?

Wall Street Journal;
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323764804578312264130040432.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

From above linked article ...

Quote:
The meteor that crashed to earth in Russia was about 55 feet in diameter, weighed around 10,000 tons

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by mpescatori on 02/20/13 at 07:50:31

Not quite that accurate...

According my to my own personal estimate (I hobbled out there in my PJs and measured the crater with my Playskool ruler)
the crater was 17,357 rulers across and 3667 rulers deep, +/- 50 rulers (it WAS a dark and chilly night)

Overall volume of the earth heaved is estimated to 433610607582,0775 cubic Playskool rulers, or 93659891237728,74 cu.in. ... 54201325947,75969 cu.ft. ... 54201325,94775969 cu.meters or 54 tons of dirt.

That calls for a possible impact energy of 1.1TB, where B (in Playskool metrics) is Baby's burp after his bottle.
(Sorry, had to stay consistent with my Playskool ruler metrics)

Given the size of the crater, the compactness of the dirt heaved, the estimated mass of the asteroid was... (you want it in milk bottles, cookies or burger metrics ?)

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by Blinky on 02/20/13 at 07:57:18


504D584E5E5C49524F543D0 wrote:
Not quite that accurate...

Given the size of the crater, the compactness of the dirt heaved, the estimated mass of the asteroid was... (you want it in milk bottles, cookies or burger metrics ?)

;D ;D ;D


Let's keep to the purpose of the forum and have the answer in "Savages" or in "S40's" if you will. 8-)

Title: Re: Russian meteor explosion...
Post by mpescatori on 02/23/13 at 08:03:44

;D ;D ;D

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