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Message started by MShipley on 01/30/13 at 06:12:02

Title: Headlight question
Post by MShipley on 01/30/13 at 06:12:02

Dont see anything out here about headlights. Anyone here have an opinion (like thats a dumb statement) on Headlights? Specifically what is the "brightest" alternative bulb that will fit the stock bracket and housing?

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by Dave on 01/30/13 at 06:20:16

The stock headlight is small, and some think it does not produce enough light.  Upgrading the bulb to a larger wattage can be a problem, as the Savage does not have much excess electrical power. You might be able to find a bulb that produced more useful light with the same wattage.

Do a search or just look through the posts - some have changed the headlight.  I think one fellow used a C50 headlight, the problem is the Savage uses 2 bolts and the C50 (or most other bottom mount lights) use 1 bolt and you need to make an adapter.


Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by Blinky on 01/30/13 at 06:21:54

Try the Sylvania Silverstar 9003. Direct swap out halogen lamp and really lights up the road compared to the stock lamp.

Good Hunting

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by wambr on 01/30/13 at 06:25:30

I don't know how legally installed in xenon headlamp or led lamps in the United States, but in Russia, we cannot do it. I myself found such lamps into headlight http://www.e-lunar.pl/_var/gfx/5db2bb899d8fe9f1a8c243b1af4984f1.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by Dave on 01/30/13 at 07:29:58

The stock headlight is a 60/55 watt bulb.  I replaced the stock headlight in my Kawasaki Super Sherpa with a Silverstar, and it helped a bunch.  The Silverstar headlights offer more light - however they are not very long lasting.  I put Silverstars in my wife's car and she drives 100 miles a day, and they lasted 9 moths and one burned out.  That is the equivalent of about 15,000 miles.....so maybe that is acceptable for a motorcycle.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by Gyrobob on 01/30/13 at 10:09:47

Install a xenon HID bulb system.  Way more light, lower load on the electrical system.

My plan for the RYCA build is to use a train light (Suzuki GS1100 9" bucket, 8" lens) but with a lower wattage bulb.  The huge reflector amplifies the light a lot, and the 35 watt halogen bulb puts approx the same load on the electrical system as does an HID set up.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by hexnut on 01/30/13 at 11:06:02

HID lights are legal if they came on the vehicle. Adding HID bulbs and wiring to a non HID housing is illegal every where in the US.

Some jurisdictions may not care, some do.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by Dave on 01/30/13 at 11:52:56


6169767160726477713534050 wrote:
HID lights are legal if they came on the vehicle. Adding HID bulbs and wiring to a non HID housing is illegal every where in the US.

Some jurisdictions may not care, some do.


There is a fellow in a 4WD pickup that comes toward me every morning and he has both headlights and both foglights converted to HID.  The lights are so bright that I have blue spots in my eyes for the next 1/2 mile......I sure would like to "Punch out his Lights" sometime!


Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by verslagen1 on 01/30/13 at 12:01:14


03383522333F242239313C23500 wrote:
[quote author=6169767160726477713534050 link=1359555122/0#6 date=1359572762]HID lights are legal if they came on the vehicle. Adding HID bulbs and wiring to a non HID housing is illegal every where in the US.

Some jurisdictions may not care, some do.


There is a fellow in a 4WD pickup that comes toward me every morning and he has both headlights and both foglights converted to HID.  The lights are so bright that I have blue spots in my eyes for the next 1/2 mile......I sure would like to "Punch out his Lights" sometime!

[/quote]
We have as part of our requirements, that lights may not blind... forget the exact wording..

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by Dave on 01/30/13 at 12:14:58


52415657484543414A15240 wrote:
[quote author=03383522333F242239313C23500 link=1359555122/0#7 date=1359575576][quote author=6169767160726477713534050 link=1359555122/0#6 date=1359572762]HID lights are legal if they came on the vehicle. Adding HID bulbs and wiring to a non HID housing is illegal every where in the US.

Some jurisdictions may not care, some do.


There is a fellow in a 4WD pickup that comes toward me every morning and he has both headlights and both foglights converted to HID.  The lights are so bright that I have blue spots in my eyes for the next 1/2 mile......I sure would like to "Punch out his Lights" sometime!

[/quote]
We have as part of our requirements, that lights may not blind... forget the exact wording..[/quote]

Well....Until somebody with the Blue Lights on top of their car pulls him over and issues him a citation......he isn't going to stop.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by arteacher on 01/30/13 at 12:25:26

This is what I use. It is the highest output non HID bulb I could find, and it is vibration resistant to boot.http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/PIAA-H4-SUPER-PLASMA-GTX-BULB

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by NorCalRider on 01/30/13 at 12:30:02

I switched mine to Silverstar H4 ST. It's a drop in replacement and it illuminates the road much better than the stock one. Here is the link for what I got http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AM8BN6

Good luck.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by hexnut on 01/30/13 at 12:34:52

What Tennessee says..


55-9-408.  Headlights complying with prohibition against glaring and dazzling lights -- Anti-glare devices -- Mounted height of lamps.

 Headlights shall be deemed to comply with the provisions of § 55-9-406, prohibiting glaring and dazzling lights, if the headlights are of a type customarily employed by manufacturers of automobiles and in addition are equipped with some anti-glare device approved by the department of safety; provided, that the department shall not approve any anti-glare device, or any combination thereof, unless it has been submitted to a laboratory test and has been found, when properly adjusted, to prevent any of the bright portions of the headlight beams from rising above a horizontal plane passing through the lamp centers parallel to a level road upon which the loaded vehicle stands and in no case higher than forty-two inches (42''), seventy-five feet (75') ahead of the vehicle.

55-9-409.  Inspecting and testing lamps emitting glare -- Order to remove illegal lamps -- Arrest of drivers.

 (a) Any member of the highway patrol having reasonable ground to believe that any headlamp or auxiliary driving or fog lamp or any device subject to approval upon a vehicle emits a glaring light as defined in §§ 55-9-406 and 55-9-408, or otherwise fails to comply with the requirements of this part, may require the driver of the vehicle to stop and submit the lamp to an inspection or test. In the event the lamp or device is not of the type that has been approved by the department, the officer making the inspection shall require the driver of the vehicle to remove the illegal lamp within twenty-four (24) hours, and may arrest the driver and give the driver a notice to appear, and may further require the driver or the owner of the vehicle to produce in court satisfactory evidence of the removal of the illegal lamp.

(b) In the event any headlight or auxiliary driving or fog light of a type that has been approved by the department, by reason of faulty adjustment or otherwise, emits a glaring light as defined in §§ 55-9-406 and 55-9-408 or otherwise fails to comply with this part, the officer making the inspection shall direct the driver to make the light or lights conform to the requirements of this part within forty-eight (48) hours. The officer may also arrest the driver and give the driver a notice to appear, and further require the driver or the owner of the vehicle to produce in court satisfactory evidence that the light or lights have been made to conform with the requirements of this part.


Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by MShipley on 01/30/13 at 12:35:18

You guys are great...gonna try the silverstar H4ST...dont want to blind the other drivers but need to see them deer before I get there.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by MShipley on 01/30/13 at 12:40:41

wow....on secound thought maybe I will try that super-plazma.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by verslagen1 on 01/30/13 at 12:43:28


78434E5948445F59424A47582B0 wrote:
Well....Until somebody with the Blue Lights on top of their car pulls him over and issues him a citation......he isn't going to stop.

Same reason I got HID's on mine... and if I stare at the spot mine shine's upon, most of theirs won't blind me.  That 4x guy must come around here too.

In fact, there was this goldwinger (at least I think it was) 2 fogs axle high and 2 headlights, all ultra bright.

When he gets ran over, the guy will claim he couldn't see, not that he didn't see him.   :-?

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by Dave on 01/30/13 at 13:20:19


2F310A0B120E071B620 wrote:
wow....on secound thought maybe I will try that super-plazma.


Not me.....I don't want a purple headlight!

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by arteacher on 01/30/13 at 14:14:05


43787562737F646279717C63100 wrote:
[quote author=2F310A0B120E071B620 link=1359555122/0#14 date=1359578441]wow....on secound thought maybe I will try that super-plazma.


Not me.....I don't want a purple headlight![/quote]
The light it produces is not purple, and you have to really look to see the blue tint when it's in the lens.
All I know is, with the stock bulb I was considerably over-driving the high beam at 50 mph, and now I'me not.
Added note: I drove around for 15 years with 100 watt driving lights in my Land Cruiser set to go on with the high beams, and 100 watt bulbs in my fog lights set to go on with the low beams, and never got busted. I also had a switch that would put both fogs and driving on at the same time. The 'Cruiser had quad lights ( a low and a low- high) on each side).
Unlike north american quads, all for lights were lit when on low, and the highs lit as well when on high, so you had stock 340 watts running with the high beams on. Ad to that the 400 watts when both fogs and driving lights were on and you have 740 watts. I could see everything!
It all appeared legal, as long as I didn't have the driving and fog lights on at the same time. The key is to focus them properly.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by WD on 01/30/13 at 15:33:43

After the stock headlight bucket/mount broke, I replaced it with the metal version from a 450 Rebel. After it got squashed (stepson wrecked the bike) I switched to a 7" side mount. Much better... easier to aim side to side and up/down. Lets the aiming screw be for fine tuning instead of relying on it to set both vertical and horizontal and hold them there. I set the bucket as high as the ears would go toward the top triple tree. Works fine with a stock H4 bulb, is almost too bright with any of the upgrade H4 bulbs.

Looks better, works better. And lets me run a full sized tool roll off of the lower triple tree. Win win win as far as my bike is concerned.

Title: Re: Headlight question
Post by houstonbofh on 01/30/13 at 19:06:11

For the record, it looks like the Savage and the Marauder use the same mount pattern.  The Marauder also comes with a 7 inch headlight.  So this should work... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Suzuki-VZ800-Marauder-Chrome-Headlight-Lense-Bucket-Housing-Ring-/160961032331?hash=item257a06708b&item=160961032331&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

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