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Message started by mikey2004 on 01/11/13 at 17:35:05

Title: Here we go..
Post by mikey2004 on 01/11/13 at 17:35:05

here is the start of my project. 1999 savage. bought it for $500.00 it has 16k miles. big oil leak. im going to start by rebuilding the motor. i already have the head cap ready. and look at this thing. what is up with the reflectors on the frame. those got to go. more pics to come. im taking the motor apart tomorrow. cant wait to get started.

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Post by Serowbot on 01/11/13 at 23:46:09

Check the head bolt, just above the exhaust pipe... and the one at the back by the carb... (that's what it looks like to me)...
... could also be the head plug... ... but, neither requires a rebuild... (unless you like that sort of thing)...

Beyond that,... at your mileage... you need to check the cam chain adjuster... (still not a rebuild)...
See the Tech section for details on head leak and cam chain adjuster...

Save the rebuild for 40k plus... maybe even 80k...

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Post by jcstokes on 01/12/13 at 02:14:30

The reflectors on the frame give you a few microseconds chance when people in cars charge at you through stop signs and orange or red lights etc.

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Post by Dave on 01/12/13 at 02:33:59

How long have you owned and ridden it? Before you jump into tearing it apart.......have you spent enough time riding it to know what is working well and what does not?

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/13 at 08:09:34

I hope he hasnt started tearing into that thing,,
Ive yet to see one that Needs a rebuild unless someone starved it for oil.

16K, time to have a look at the cam chain adjuster & fix the leak.
I saw one with around 90,000 on it once..didnt look to me like it had been pampered, ever,,but it was still a chuggin along,,

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Post by Lucaisrussell on 01/12/13 at 10:40:29

Good luck on your rebuild, I know how fun it can be; I just rebuild mine a few months ago.

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Post by Lucaisrussell on 01/12/13 at 10:41:50

Oh and you're right, those reflectors need to be thrown out a window.

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Post by paulmarshall on 01/12/13 at 11:50:38

Good lick on your rebuild. Personally at 16k I wouldn't be rebuilding it. Fix the leak and look at the cam.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/12/13 at 12:00:00

lmao thanks to all. i started taking it apart today. only reason im taking it apart is because the guy who had it before me didnt know what he was doing when he took it apart to replace the head gasket. so im going to replace the head seal cap and put another gasket on it. looks like he tore the gasket when he installed it. got one being shipped to me now. i have taking the bike out a few times i know a few things that it needs. it is running pretty good. just the oil pooring out of it and it has a miss im looking into. in taking it apart im able to wipe all the oil off and buff the chrome. this guy was riding it with the oil pooring out.... things some people do. will be done next sat. just waiting for the gasket. thank you for your posts. the reflectors are going to be replaced with lights. i think they are ugly.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/12/13 at 12:00:54

started.

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Post by Rocket on 01/17/13 at 10:43:38

Interesting thread. I have a 1997 with about 6,000 miles. Converted to a Ryca cafe. Got moderate leaking down left side of front/side of jug fins. Some leakage apears to start above he head gasket but more below. Great compression.

Do you folks just suggest tightening the head cover bolts and the head bolts?

If I take it down for head gasket repair do I have to take the engine out. I know my Clymer says some frames are too small but they don't give percentages.

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Post by 1st2know on 01/17/13 at 10:59:55

Looking at the 1st photo, it looks like the PO didn't properly reinstall the head pipe (scorched fins on the right)....yeah, I think you're wise to re-inspect the POs work.

Rocket: 6,000 miles is right about when the head plug leak begins to show. The leak pattern is from the hole below the exhaust. When the machine is sitting on the stick, the oil drools to the left side of the jug, then when you ride it, the oil is blown back along the fins and splatter on the battery box and left side cover.
Prescription: head plug leak repair. While you have the cover open, re-tourque the head bolts and reset the valve lash. 1st timers usually spend 4-6 hours on this. 2nd time around you should be able to do it in an hour.

Also, at 6k expect the crappy vac hose from the right side of the carb to the petcork to develop leaks (symptoms: poor idle, big bang backfire). Replace this with fuel hose - much better than the soda straw hose from the factory.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:01:15

rocket. if its anything like this build i just finished you wont have to strip it down to the head gasket.. i got a bunch of pics i'm posting right now. when i took the top of the motor apart i found that the P.O. (from what he said) took this bike to a shop and they replaced the head cap. WITH THE WRONG ONE!!!! i love stupid people they make life fun. they had to of known that it was the wrong one. they had to of used an entire tube of three bond. when i pulled it out it was completely covered in three bond.. looking at this and seeing the problem i decided not to mess with the timing. so i replaced the head cap put it back together, fired it up and found no leak. and the bike runs 100 times better. so here are some pics. hope this can help someone. and yes 1st2know is right. the oil was comming from the bolt located under the exhaust pipe.. the bottom bolt WAS missing from the head pipe. i really hope the scorch marks come off.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:07:36

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:08:03

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:08:38

look at this.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:09:12

new head cap.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:09:48

new head cap installed.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:10:43

cleaned up ready to install.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/19/13 at 16:11:12

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Post by ToesNose on 01/21/13 at 04:47:12

Looks like yor making some good progress Mikey :D

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/21/13 at 04:59:05

Ya toes it was w fun repair still cant believe how easy it was. From here on in its mods that I want for me. Instead of repairs to make it run. Now I need plates and Sarasota tells me it 500 dollars to transfer and plate the bike. Thats what I paid for it. O well good thing tax time is here. Im ready for a beach ride. Cant wait.

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Post by ToesNose on 01/21/13 at 06:26:21

$500, does that incluse tax? I know some places tax on blue book value regardless of what you paid for it, find out if that is the case or if you are taxed on what you paid. If it is taxed on what you paid get a notorized bill of sale from the prior owner and save yourself some $ ;)

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/21/13 at 17:04:08

florida taxes on what was paid. and i already put 150.i hope the web site is wrong on that price. last time i got a plate for a bike is was less than 200. but you know the state has to make that money some where, thats ok i still need to oay the 200 for my lic. this is my first bike. cant wait to get out there.

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Post by A-Bolt on 01/22/13 at 15:32:38

it will be worth goin for a putt.

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/23/13 at 05:16:46

Ok you know I have a 99 savage. Can somronr tell me step by step the best way to stat the bike. Im talking first start up of the day. I want to make sure im doing it right. And I really dont trust the p/o's way of starting the bike. Any help would be great. Thanks.

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Post by MiCTLaN on 01/23/13 at 08:14:46

Turn on key, turn on gas (raptor petcock, if you have the stock petcock then skip that step), pull the fuel enrichener knob to the first click, pull in clutch, <shift into neutral> hit starter button. Let idle for about a minute, hop on, ride off. Depending on how cold it is I might leave the enrichener for a couple of minutes, but usually push it back in before I take off.

I'm curious what the POs recommended technique is... :)

8-) -v1

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Post by mikey2004 on 01/23/13 at 09:59:17

P/O had all the steps right but he had told me that i have to pump gas twice. i was worried about flooding it. and to me that jsut didint sound right. thank you VERY much for the break down, thats why i love this site.