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Title: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by diamond jim on 01/01/13 at 12:51:36 I don't remember to whom on this forum I sold my 2006 S40 but I just remember that he was a really super cool dude. Here's some old pics I came across plus dyno results. Out of maybe a dozen bikes I've owned and another 15-20 that I've ridden, this was by far my favorite bike around town. I'm currently on a modded Mean Streak 1600. But often I wish I was on this puppy. Airbox removed, battery relocated, forward controls, saddlebags, lowered rear fender, horn cover, headlight raised, headlight visor, speedo bezel http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/S4022159.jpg Tuned exhaust, Kamikaze intake, seat reshaped, crank case filter http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/S4021925.jpg Risers, broomstick drag bars, combo bar end mirror/turn signals (they were still a work in progress) http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/3-22.jpg Tail light removed, holes welded, fender painted, new tail light, rear turns, tag relocated (still had stock exhaust on back then) http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/IMG_1472.jpg Custom machined cam chain tensioner extender http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/1-32.jpg Dyno results http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/dynorunS40dj.jpg |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by Oldfeller on 01/01/13 at 12:59:27 Your old bike is referred to now-a-days as Black Beauty, you sold it to Lancer who then gave it to his son. Black Beauty has made one Dragon Run where it was admired by all that attended. Black Beauty also killed her a 1200cc Sportster and two (2) full dressers on that trip (as in destroyed the crankshaft splines on the primary chain sprocket) while the Sportster was trying to run away from Black Beauty (unsuccessfully) on a very curvy mountain road. Lancer was on your old bike and MMRanch was on the new 1200cc Sporty (soon to be sold after the broken tipped splines were repaired by weld up & grind down). I was there (but had actually left the scene by the time this evil dual full dresser deed took place) as to the them foolish miscreant's evil dresser deeds, the cruel slaying of the two fat full dresser Hurleys on the right and on the left, with them boys jest a sparking them footboards out from under them in matched pairs, then our Savage boys jest a riding on through them and leaving them turned turtle, all horizontal & wheels a spinning by the roadsides. Yep, Black Beauty was a fearsome thing to behold when hard ridden. We got all too old and sensible after that though, and no longer can seem to get a Dragon Run put together as the bad backs and wimpy butts seem to be the rule of the day. ;) |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by diamond jim on 01/01/13 at 13:46:59 Awesome. Thanks for the history. Black Beauty put it's share of 1 liter+ cruisers to shame stoplight to stoplight. Of course, once you hit 60mph those other bikes will leave it in the dust. But a sporty curve will take care of that. I'm up for a Dragon run this summer. Still hard for me to call it that. For years I rode it as Deal's Gap and always stayed at the Crossroads Of Time Motel. Then the secret got out! |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by Oldfeller on 01/01/13 at 14:33:04 So, when do you want to go visit the Dragon again? I'm up to split a room with you and Dave might want to come to make it a threesome (1 small room full up). Here is your weather tool for the area so you can pick you a time with some good weather. Last week of June gets too too durn hot lately with global warming and all (causes rear tire damage to the bikes it does). If you aimed your Dragon run on the early side of hot, it wouldn't interfere with the WD run in September -- and some of us might well do both (lacking all forms of good sense and all) :) http://www.usa.com/28716-nc-weather.htm Next, what'cha got for a bike now-a-days? Have you bought it yet? |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by diamond jim on 01/01/13 at 22:32:50 2E0D0507040D0D0413610 wrote:
I'm free just about any time. I am unemployable. Investigation after strokes revealed connections with medical problems mishandled while I was in the service. I'm 100% permanent. Military disability benefits have me taken care of. I get my kids every other weekend, 1/2 the summer and doctor appts about twice a month. Other than that I'm pretty much free. My wife is awesome and tries to find ways to get me out of the house and doing stuff with others. As for my new wheels its an '04 Kawasaki Mean Streak 1600. |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by LANCER on 01/02/13 at 02:19:23 Well, heck fire ! Bummed about missing another fun ride up yonder. :( (Actually, my son bought it, I just helped make the arrangements. I've always thought it was the cleanest, sleekest looking LS650 I've ever seen; ran good too; would hit 95 indicated anytime you wanted.) 8-) |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by Oldfeller on 01/02/13 at 05:55:23 Ok, we got two threads for two trips up at the top of the Cafe in the sticky area. One is for WD in September, the other is for the Dragon in the early summer months. Diamond Jim, you need to ring in on the Dragon thread at the top of the Cafe periodically to get updates on the trip planning. |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by Super Thumper on 01/02/13 at 09:44:34 Where is the battery on that "Black beauty"? AWESOME looking bike...this is the look I am going for on my winter build...got any of the build pics? |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by verslagen1 on 01/02/13 at 10:04:02 7769606C626D716A6B050 wrote:
pretty sure it was a full size bat in 1 of the bags. |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by MiCTLaN on 01/02/13 at 12:07:17 I quite like the look of that seat... is that just a trimmed down stock seat? If so, I think I know exactly what I'm going to be trying out some time in the very near future. :D |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by diamond jim on 01/02/13 at 14:03:57 4D4943544C414E200 wrote:
No battery. I just always park on hills. ;D Yep, in the right side saddlebag if I recall. It's been Lancer's son's bike for a couple years now. 6779707C727D617A7B150 wrote:
Yeah, the seat is trimmed down. If I had it to do over again I would do it differently. The look would be identical. The methods getting there would be different because modding the stock pan provides significant challenges to overcome due to its design. I would make a new seat pan using one of two methods: Strip the stock seat down to the pan, cover it with plastic, lay several layers of fiberglass over it, let dry, remove the fiberglass, trim it, install the necessary hardware for securing to the bike, foam then cover. Another method would be to get a thick sheet of 1/4" kydex, heat it to the correct molding temperature (approx 400 F), lay it on the stock seat pan, work it to shape, let it cool, trim it and install hardware. You can later reheat small, specific areas of the kydex seat pan with a heat gun to ensure precise fitting on the bike. You can use the stock seat cover. But I wouldn't. I'd recommend taking it to a local community college's upholstery dept and let them refoam then make/install a new cover. It's usually pretty low $$$ and they do it all the time. Obviously you can take it to a professional. But I mention the college route because a) it's usually less than 1/2 the cost of a pro, b) they are always looking for projects to do. Both win. Done right, it can be accomplished within a $70-$120 budget and you'll end up with a high quailty, one-of-a kind custom product, rather than just a modded one. And here's the double bonus- reassemble the stock seat and put it aside. If you sell the bike you can put the hardly used stock seat on (which will look nice which is great for selling a bike) and then ebay the custom seat and make your money back. ;) |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by MiCTLaN on 01/02/13 at 14:47:44 I should have a second (stock solo) seat on the way soon from Lancer, the plan was to mod that so I could keep the stock one if I needed it. Instead of using the stock cover I planned on doing a new cover myself in distressed leather (and redoing my grips in matching leather at the same time). I have a fairly good idea of how I'm going to handle it, but haven't taken a look at the pan yet to see how difficult it will be. What kinds of problems did you have with the stock pan, too flexible or something? |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by diamond jim on 01/02/13 at 15:16:17 6763697E666B640A0 wrote:
If you're doing solo not too much of a problem. If doing the full seat then the narrowing that start to form the passenger seat and the form of the passenger portion of the pan becomes problematic. The passenger portion of the pan is internally raised to form a space that encloses the rectifier or some kind of part, I forget. Getting the lower profile the becomes a pain. But sounds like none of that will be a problem for you. Others have also removed the seat, laid plastic on the frame area where the seat goes, lay fiberglass on that and end up with a low profile seat pan that matches the contours of the frame. |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by MiCTLaN on 01/02/13 at 15:34:56 49444C404243494744402D0 wrote:
Nifty. Thanks for the advice. :) |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by JohnBoy on 01/02/13 at 20:03:00 Diamond Jim! Long time Dude!! You inspired numerous changes on my bike. Rermember this? http://https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-laiBjaAcO8w/S4b2gQM-pbI/AAAAAAAAArc/EAnIJzNMbww/s576/turbulator2.jpg?gl=U I don't have any data to support this, but it did seem to smooth out some of the rough spots. It has been installed between an 'Oldfeller's' air cleaner and the carb for three years. The screen is sold as a flow regulator for a computer. |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by MiCTLaN on 01/02/13 at 21:07:29 042126200C21374E0 wrote:
No kidding? Have a link? I just googled around a little bit and didn't hit anything, but I'd be interested in seeing what those cost. I made something almost exactly like that out of black drinking straws to use as a flash modifier for my camera flash equipment, and was thinking about making another one but hadn't got around to it yet because it took forever. ;D |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by diamond jim on 01/02/13 at 23:20:21 644146406C41572E0 wrote:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/turbulator2-1_zpsebb6a96b.jpg 644146406C41572E0 wrote:
Sweet. What are the dimensions of the individual diameters to length? A length to diameter ratio of 6-7: 1 was the magic number I found through exhaustive research regarding laminar flow dynamics. I figure you already knew this through research. Less than 6x:1 results in the design being minimally effective. Greater than 7x:1 then resistance increases. Interesting stuff. It helped with mine. The way my bike was setup I had that large open space behind the carb. Adding and tweaking the aluminum deflector plate on the floor of the frame cavity, combined with the wind normally deflected off your legs and inner thighs to the inside (into the bike) helped create a pocket of turbulent air inside that frame cavitiy. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/SMALLBIKEPIC_zpsff193330.jpg When riding, I could reach down and place my hand in that cavity and be amazed at how much airflow was there and how it felt as though it was forming a wave that followed along the bottom, then deflected upwards and then forward by the frame design, curling forward towards the carb. One of those certainly improved my bike's feel. I've always wondered what that setup combined with one of Lancer's high performace carb setups would be like. It feels wierd talking about and posting pics of what is now someone else's bike but it allows me to talk about mods and keeps me in the loop a little. I hope everyne can bear with me. |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by LANCER on 01/03/13 at 03:49:39 6D60686466676D636064090 wrote:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/turbulator2-1_zpsebb6a96b.jpg 644146406C41572E0 wrote:
Sweet. What are the dimensions of the individual diameters to length? A length to diameter ratio of 6-7: 1 was the magic number I found through exhaustive research regarding laminar flow dynamics. I figure you already knew this through research. Less than 6x:1 results in the design being minimally effective. Greater than 7x:1 then resistance increases. Interesting stuff. It helped with mine. The way my bike was setup I had that large open space behind the carb. Adding and tweaking the aluminum deflector plate on the floor of the frame cavity, combined with the wind normally deflected off your legs and inner thighs to the inside (into the bike) helped create a pocket of turbulent air inside that frame cavitiy. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/SMALLBIKEPIC_zpsff193330.jpg When riding, I could reach down and place my hand in that cavity and be amazed at how much airflow was there and how it felt as though it was forming a wave that followed along the bottom, then deflected upwards and then forward by the frame design, curling forward towards the carb. One of those certainly improved my bike's feel. I've always wondered what that setup combined with one of Lancer's high performace carb setups would be like. It feels wierd talking about and posting pics of what is now someone else's bike but it allows me to talk about mods and keeps me in the loop a little. I hope everyne can bear with me. [/quote] I still have the original that DJ created |
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Title: Re: Dyno results + pics of mods Post by Cavi Mike on 01/03/13 at 12:02:10 That thing looks pretty restrictive. I'd go for the honeycomb from a mass-air sensor. |
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