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Message started by srinath on 12/24/12 at 10:06:53

Title: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/24/12 at 10:06:53

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/two-firefighters-shot-killed-while-responding-webster-n-163105823.html

A gunman set a trap and shot and killed two firefighters responding to an early morning blaze in Webster, N.Y. Two other first responders were serious condition, police officials said.

WTH is wrong with Idiots like this ... did he set the buildings on fire too ?
I hope they never mention his name, just say suspect, disturbed medicated gunman etc etc, and never say a name.
I also hope they bury him in an unmarked grave or in a grave identified by a convict number or cremate him and fertilize the cemetery with the ashes.

It will be a good lesson to other whacko's who will know if they did somehting like this, no one will ever know their name. I hope, I hope, I hope.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 12/26/12 at 11:18:45

Is he any better than the fire fighter who had a hero complex and started a fire so he could claim the glory of extinguishing it?

(He failed, the fire spread, and that is why it made the news here)
There are all kinds of weirdos.


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Starlifter on 12/26/12 at 11:29:49

WHAT?? are you defending this guy?? Unbelievable...

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/26/12 at 11:38:51

WHAT?? are you defending this guy?? Unbelievable...

in what world would anyone who read Paraquat's comments think he's defending' this guy?  

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WD on 12/26/12 at 16:25:44

The gunman was a convicted murderer, 17 year sentence for beating his grandmother to death with a hammer. And yes, he did set the fire. Last report I saw on it he had some relatives missing currently.

And he offed himself. His name is all over the 'net in any story on the incident. He was off his psych meds.

He should have ridden the lightning when he killed his grandmother.  >:(

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 12/26/12 at 16:32:12


3427630 wrote:
The gunman was a convicted murderer, 17 year sentence for beating his grandmother to death with a hammer. And yes, he did set the fire. Last report I saw on it he had some relatives missing currently.

And he offed himself. His name is all over the 'net in any story on the incident. He was off his psych meds.

He should have ridden the lightning when he killed his grandmother.  >:(


Ban assault hammers.
We have contractors. There's no reason an individual would need a hammer.


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/27/12 at 12:44:39


5362716272766277030 wrote:
[quote author=3427630 link=1356372413/0#4 date=1356567944]The gunman was a convicted murderer, 17 year sentence for beating his grandmother to death with a hammer. And yes, he did set the fire. Last report I saw on it he had some relatives missing currently.

And he offed himself. His name is all over the 'net in any story on the incident. He was off his psych meds.

He should have ridden the lightning when he killed his grandmother.  >:(


Ban assault hammers.
We have contractors. There's no reason an individual would need a hammer.


--Steve[/quote]


Yup, ban hammers. Do anything but something that will slow down the progress of guns into criminal hands.

You used to work for a tobacco company ?

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 12/27/12 at 19:01:41

Negative. I worked as a bag boy, then doing pizza delivery, Stop and Shop deli, and then as a machinist for the last 10 years.


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by houstonbofh on 12/27/12 at 22:30:19

How about this guy with a gun?  Would you have been happier if he was unarmed?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151175611405773&set=a.10150304121645773.343817.58718055772&type=1

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 12/28/12 at 06:06:55

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/11/05/saddam-gun.jpg

http://thyblackman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/OsamawithGun.jpg

http://www.upah.us/right-wing-wackos/9/seals.jpg

Do the guns make the difference or does the action of the individual make the difference?


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/28/12 at 06:28:34


7A7D6761667D7C707D747A120 wrote:
How about this guy with a gun?  Would you have been happier if he was unarmed?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151175611405773&set=a.10150304121645773.343817.58718055772&type=1


I would have been happier if he had a rf-id tagged gun, so when he leaves it unattended after shooting the 3 guys, one of the kids doesn't get someone else shot.
See, you once again misunderstand me.
BTW these guys are the ones sending the guns back to the so called "gun collection" routines.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by houstonbofh on 12/28/12 at 09:44:21


10110A0D02170B630 wrote:
I would have been happier if he had a rf-id tagged gun, so when he leaves it unattended after shooting the 3 guys, one of the kids doesn't get someone else shot.

And yet you never responded back to my posts about the known issues with rf-id and fingerprint based guns...

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Serowbot on 12/28/12 at 09:47:32


7B7C6660677C7D717C757B130 wrote:
How about this guy with a gun?  Would you have been happier if he was unarmed?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151175611405773&set=a.10150304121645773.343817.58718055772&type=1

Did he need a 100rd AR15 for that?... :-?...

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by houstonbofh on 12/28/12 at 10:12:22


6472657860757863170 wrote:
[quote author=7B7C6660677C7D717C757B130 link=1356372413/0#8 date=1356676219]How about this guy with a gun?  Would you have been happier if he was unarmed?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151175611405773&set=a.10150304121645773.343817.58718055772&type=1

Did he need a 100rd AR15 for that?... :-?...[/quote]

Do you "need" a motorcycle?

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 12/28/12 at 10:37:07

As a lawyer, but one who doesn't do criminal defense work, I think the entire sentencing system is what's out of whack.  Why didn't this guy get life without parole for killing the grandmother?  I am at a loss to explain.

Yet one of my law school classmates is doing life for shooting his wife when he came home to find another man in bed with her.  This guy is paying his debt - maybe the fact that he was a lawyer had something to do with the sentence, as the courts despise lawyers and law enforcement officers who go to the dark side and commit crimes, even crimes of passion.  Yet a guy who beats someone to death with a hammer gets only 17 years?  Gimme a break.

Again, it's bad or mentally ill people who need to be controlled, not the weapon of choice.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/28/12 at 10:43:14


7E7963656279787479707E160 wrote:
[quote author=10110A0D02170B630 link=1356372413/0#10 date=1356704914]I would have been happier if he had a rf-id tagged gun, so when he leaves it unattended after shooting the 3 guys, one of the kids doesn't get someone else shot.

And yet you never responded back to my posts about the known issues with rf-id and fingerprint based guns...[/quote]


I dont care about those issues. The fact you show a gun to a criminal is what it takes ... you rarely ever fire it.

And it will never fire if its taken away form the assigned owner.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 12/28/12 at 11:13:01


4C4B5157504B4A464B424C240 wrote:
[quote author=6472657860757863170 link=1356372413/0#12 date=1356716852][quote author=7B7C6660677C7D717C757B130 link=1356372413/0#8 date=1356676219]How about this guy with a gun?  Would you have been happier if he was unarmed?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151175611405773&set=a.10150304121645773.343817.58718055772&type=1

Did he need a 100rd AR15 for that?... :-?...[/quote]

Do you "need" a motorcycle?[/quote]

Do you need a car that goes faster than 55 MPH?
Do you need 500 horsepower?
We should just lay down and become communists and all ride the bus. The government will provide transportation for us. All hail the government.


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by MShipley on 12/28/12 at 11:22:52

That's where we are headed..............

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/28/12 at 12:29:06


3302110212160217630 wrote:
[quote author=4C4B5157504B4A464B424C240 link=1356372413/0#13 date=1356718342][quote author=6472657860757863170 link=1356372413/0#12 date=1356716852][quote author=7B7C6660677C7D717C757B130 link=1356372413/0#8 date=1356676219]How about this guy with a gun?  Would you have been happier if he was unarmed?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151175611405773&set=a.10150304121645773.343817.58718055772&type=1

Did he need a 100rd AR15 for that?... :-?...[/quote]

Do you "need" a motorcycle?[/quote]

Do you need a car that goes faster than 55 MPH?
Do you need 500 horsepower?
We should just lay down and become communists and all ride the bus. The government will provide transportation for us. All hail the government.


--Steve
[/quote]

Your car that goes over 55mph, and makes over 500 hp, still has a lock, and doors and seat belt and alarm and insurance etc dont it ... as soon as you remove all those and want the car left open uninsured, yea we'll talk.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 12/28/12 at 14:41:48

My guns have cable locks and are in a safe inside my house.
I have a Remington with a lock built into the trigger. You need a special key to unlock it.

My car sits, not in my garage, but in my driveway. Unlocked.

It doesn't have an alarm system and I have the option of using or not using my seatbelt even though I'm prohibited from driving without it and there are consequences to face if I'm caught.

Although the state requires I register and insure my vehicles this is not always the case. There have been a few times when I've driven it without either. Slap a plate on it and go. These were times in my early 20s when it was my only for of transportation though.

Edit: I got derailed and forgot what I was going to say. I remember now...
Ultimately it's my decision to get tanked up and got for a high speed drive into a shopping mall or to drive sober, follow all the laws, and arrive safely.
THE DECISION LIES WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.
Same with my firearms.


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/28/12 at 15:53:03

And If your kid was adam lanza he'd kill you with that car, then jump into it and go for a high speed drive through a school ... Would be really stupid, wont it, a simple set of keys will have stopped that from happening.

Yea no, you cant leave the keys lying on the hood ... keys are keys, need to be kept secure. Just thought I'd close off that stupid comeback.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Gyrobob on 12/28/12 at 18:47:29


734146575041566945564F240 wrote:
WHAT?? are you defending this guy?? Unbelievable...

in what world would anyone who read Paraquat's comments think he's defending' this guy?  



in starry's world

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/28/12 at 19:57:47


6A5B485B4B4F5B4E3A0 wrote:
THE DECISION LIES WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.


--Steve


And this brilliant line of reasoning doesn't somehow apply to gays, abortion, religion ?

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WD on 12/29/12 at 00:03:56

No door locks, no car alarm, no seat belts, is parked outside, key left in the ignition. Unless you know 1940s vehicles you can't start it... Hasn't been licensed since 1974, and yes, it has been driven since then on the public roads with 1974 tabs. Cops never messed with me about it.

Towed my last licensed in 1991, in Alaska (by someone else), non-titled horse trailer across the country in 2011. Without brake lights or turn signals. Or issues. Behind a same era (antique) 1/2 ton truck. That has no seat belts. Or brake lights.

::)


Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 12/30/12 at 04:26:17


75746F6867726E060 wrote:
[quote author=6A5B485B4B4F5B4E3A0 link=1356372413/15#19 date=1356734508]

THE DECISION LIES WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.


--Steve


And this brilliant line of reasoning doesn't somehow apply to gays, abortion, religion ?

Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Oh, come on now dude.  You are mixing apples and oranges.  The discussion had to do with violent crimes committed by individuals, and now you switch to lifestyle choices ?  There is no connection in this context.
You can do better than that.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Starlifter on 12/30/12 at 14:37:08

Lancer why are you shouting at us with giant blue type?

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Starlifter on 12/30/12 at 14:54:40

Also, your apples and oranges answer doesn't fly, it's not apples and oranges or lifestyle choices. It's about rights. Please answer Srinath's question.

"And this brilliant line of reasoning doesn't somehow apply to gays, abortion, religion?"

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 12/30/12 at 17:27:40


6E495C4F51545B49584F3D0 wrote:
Lancer why are you shouting at us with giant blue type?


I'm not shouting.  The slightly larger print is easier for me to read.
I like blue.
Review all my posts on this website and you will find that most of them are in the same color/font.  

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Starlifter on 12/30/12 at 17:57:46

Oh okay, understand. ;)

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Gyrobob on 12/30/12 at 19:01:19


7E737C7177602025120 wrote:
[quote author=6E495C4F51545B49584F3D0 link=1356372413/15#25 date=1356907028]Lancer why are you shouting at us with giant blue type?


I'm not shouting.  The slightly larger print is easier for me to read.
I like blue.
Review all my posts on this website and you will find that most of them are in the same color/font.  
[/quote]

I can relate.  Last year a few folks here gave me the same she-ite about putting all my posts in 14 rather than using 11.  Like you, I simply wanted to read it easier.  So now, to keep them from getting their panties in a wad, I use Arial and 14 on every post.  A little larger and clearer, but doesn't seem to generate the same amount of rage.  At least no one has bugged me about it lately.


Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 12/31/12 at 05:09:30


6D5358454845482A0 wrote:
[quote author=7E737C7177602025120 link=1356372413/15#27 date=1356917260][quote author=6E495C4F51545B49584F3D0 link=1356372413/15#25 date=1356907028]Lancer why are you shouting at us with giant blue type?


I'm not shouting.  The slightly larger print is easier for me to read.
I like blue.
Review all my posts on this website and you will find that most of them are in the same color/font.  
[/quote]


I can relate.  Last year a few folks here gave me the same she-ite about putting all my posts in 14 rather than using 11.  Like you, I simply wanted to read it easier.  So now, to keep them from getting their panties in a wad, I use Arial and 14 on every post.  A little larger and clearer, but doesn't seem to generate the same amount of rage.  At least no one has bugged me about it lately.

[/quote]

That's what a FREE country is supposed to be about; having the freedom to do/write what you want as long as you do not harm others.  Others are free to read or not read what/how I write.  It is their RIGHT to do that.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 12/31/12 at 15:38:08

Text shouting is upper case ... the bigger font in different colors, we use that @ work cos we get into these IM sessions with 20-30 people ... and we can sort of quickly parse our team members via font size and shape and color.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by verslagen1 on 01/01/13 at 23:03:56

What's the harm?

1. Why do you need to see your posts bigger and clearer than anyone else's?  Are you more important?  Don't you care to read what others have posted just as easily?

2. I'm nearsighted, my old eyes don't focus on the computer while wearing my glasses anymore, so I do sympathize with needing larger text.  I resize the text on the screen so I can comfortably see it, that's all the text.  Yeah I could resize for every post but that pretty annoying.  I don't even like doing that for pictures.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/02/13 at 03:21:51


495A4D4C535E585A510E3F0 wrote:
What's the harm?

1. Why do you need to see your posts bigger and clearer than anyone else's?  Are you more important?  Don't you care to read what others have posted just as easily?

2. I'm nearsighted, my old eyes don't focus on the computer while wearing my glasses anymore, so I do sympathize with needing larger text.  I resize the text on the screen so I can comfortably see it, that's all the text.  Yeah I could resize for every post but that pretty annoying.  I don't even like doing that for pictures.



Are you asking this of me or someone else or just making a point ?

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 01/02/13 at 09:21:20


77766D6A65706C040 wrote:
[quote author=6A5B485B4B4F5B4E3A0 link=1356372413/15#19 date=1356734508]

THE DECISION LIES WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.


--Steve


And this brilliant line of reasoning doesn't somehow apply to gays, abortion, religion ?

Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

These decisions SHOULD be the choice of the individual.

If you want to be gay then go be gay.
If you want to get an abortion go right ahead.
If you want to worship whatever God(s) you want to feel free.

Who am I to dictate what you can and can not do?
Who is anyone else to dictate what I can and can not do?
(This isn't a vote for anarchy so don't twist it in that direction. I support a basic societal set of rules)

At a minimum there should be a general set of laws by state.
Imagine a theoretical situation:
If I favored religion and California was pro gay marriage, pro marijuana and against religion and Ohio was pro gay marriage, pro marijuana and pro religion I could pack up and move to Ohio.
If Florida was against marijuana but pro gay marriage and pro religion I could move there but would have to sacrifice smoking dope.

That's simply choosing where to live based on the options available to me, but at least I'd have options to pursue my desires.

Let's go a step further; back in time to when California first wanted to legalize marijuana.
Why not? Because the federal government says no.
Why not have used California as an example. If California, as a state, wanted to legalize marijuana then let them. See how their economy, production, employment, crime rates all change as a result. Other states could use them as an example and then dismiss, accept, or adapt the findings based off of California's little experiment all while remaining a control group isolated from the experiment.

That's such a great idea it should be an amendment.
Giving the state that power would contradict what the federal government has previously imposed however. If only someone came up with that "amendment" in or around 1795 before the feds illegally seized their power. It could've be the 11th amendment.

(It is the 11th amendment)


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by verslagen1 on 01/02/13 at 09:49:38


7A77787573642421160 wrote:
[quote author=495A4D4C535E585A510E3F0 link=1356372413/30#32 date=1357110236]What's the harm?

1. Why do you need to see your posts bigger and clearer than anyone else's?  Are you more important?  Don't you care to read what others have posted just as easily?

2. I'm nearsighted, my old eyes don't focus on the computer while wearing my glasses anymore, so I do sympathize with needing larger text.  I resize the text on the screen so I can comfortably see it, that's all the text.  Yeah I could resize for every post but that pretty annoying.  I don't even like doing that for pictures.



Are you asking this of me or someone else or just making a point ?[/quote]
Just 'spaining my point of view, as an equal, using small type like most everyone else.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/02/13 at 11:28:50


6051425141455144300 wrote:
[quote author=77766D6A65706C040 link=1356372413/15#22 date=1356753467][quote author=6A5B485B4B4F5B4E3A0 link=1356372413/15#19 date=1356734508]

THE DECISION LIES WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.


--Steve


And this brilliant line of reasoning doesn't somehow apply to gays, abortion, religion ?

Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

These decisions SHOULD be the choice of the individual.

If you want to be gay then go be gay.
If you want to get an abortion go right ahead.
If you want to worship whatever God(s) you want to feel free.

Who am I to dictate what you can and can not do?
Who is anyone else to dictate what I can and can not do?
(This isn't a vote for anarchy so don't twist it in that direction. I support a basic societal set of rules)

At a minimum there should be a general set of laws by state.
Imagine a theoretical situation:
If I favored religion and California was pro gay marriage, pro marijuana and against religion and Ohio was pro gay marriage, pro marijuana and pro religion I could pack up and move to Ohio.
If Florida was against marijuana but pro gay marriage and pro religion I could move there but would have to sacrifice smoking dope.

That's simply choosing where to live based on the options available to me, but at least I'd have options to pursue my desires.

Let's go a step further; back in time to when California first wanted to legalize marijuana.
Why not? Because the federal government says no.
Why not have used California as an example. If California, as a state, wanted to legalize marijuana then let them. See how their economy, production, employment, crime rates all change as a result. Other states could use them as an example and then dismiss, accept, or adapt the findings based off of California's little experiment all while remaining a control group isolated from the experiment.

That's such a great idea it should be an amendment.
Giving the state that power would contradict what the federal government has previously imposed however. If only someone came up with that "amendment" in or around 1795 before the feds illegally seized their power. It could've be the 11th amendment.

(It is the 11th amendment)


--Steve[/quote]


You say this ... but the same side that "wants guns so people have the freedom to do as they please" is all about restricting the rest of the rights as you have outlined.

You are a pro gun liberal looks like.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 01/02/13 at 11:46:06

Next time you look in the dictionary for the definition of hypocrisy; here's what it will say:

A Clarkstown police report issued on December 28, 2012, confirmed that The Journal News has hired armed security guards from New City-based RGA Investigations and that they are manning the newspaper’s Rockland County headquarters at 1 Crosfield Ave., West Nyack, through at least tomorrow, Wednesday, January 2, 2013.

According to police reports on public record, Journal News Rockland Editor Caryn A. McBride was alarmed by the volume of “negative correspondence,” namely an avalanche of phone calls and emails to the Journal News office, following the newspaper’s publishing of a map of all pistol permit holders in Rockland and Westchester.

Due to apparent safety concerns, the newspaper then decided to hire RGA Investigations to provide armed personnel to man the location


Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/02/13 at 12:54:53

I dont know what Bogus Bovine excrement this is webster ... but gun permits issued to people = permits issued to criminals and non criminals. Any one can get it, the NRA has made sure of that. Its what the NRA does.

Putting armed cops and security people around you = good guys carrying guns. Its what the NRA says.

Do as I say, not as I do ?

Its not hypocritical, its a reflection of the rather lax gun permitting/issual/sale process. Why doesn't it ever enter your head ... we want good guys to have guns ... we dont trust in the gun sale and permitting process to make that happen.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by MShipley on 01/02/13 at 13:09:48

So srinath, you are saying that it is NOT HYPOCRITICAL for The Journal to be aginst my rights to defend my home, and to go so far as to print my name and address in thier paper (as if I am a bad person) without my permission, because I own a gun to protect my home. When they hire guns to protect thier home..............sounds like hypocracy to me.

However, I will stand up for The Jounal here because the truth is we are all hypocrits to some degree....... it is our God given right to choose wrong. :)

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/02/13 at 13:15:50

They didn't say you are a bad person in the list of gun owners did they ?
If they did, they deserve the threats they got.

They put a list in the paper ... public record, much like the property owners lists and marriage records. If they got threats ... I think the people making the threats have made themselves to be what the paper's staff need protection from.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 01/02/13 at 13:25:09

Srinath; have you ever made a valid point in your entire life?.....

Trying to talk to you is like trying to talk to 5 or 6 different people at once and you can only make out  a word every now and then.

I don't think anyone has any idea what you are trying to say half the time.


Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by houstonbofh on 01/02/13 at 17:45:44


74756E6966736F070 wrote:
... but gun permits issued to people = permits issued to criminals and non criminals. Any one can get it, the NRA has made sure of that.

This is just totally flat out wrong in every way.  Not a spec of truth in it at all.

All permit processes have a background check.  Felons are knocked off.  Adjudicated metal deficits (Legally judged nutbags) are also denied.  In Texas, anyone behind in child support, state taxes or student loans is also blocked.  Local law enforcement is notified and they can ask for "extended investigation" in some cases. (People under investigation)  In New Jersey, you have to have written approval of the local police chief.

So once again, you are full of it.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/02/13 at 19:44:44

Ooo yea we have afool proof method then ... Ok so the last 4-5 killers, Va tech, arizona parking lot, webster fire, sandy hook etc etc must have killed people with ... of course, ping pongs. Got it, ban ping pongs. Yea ping pongs are dangerous ... so are tennisses and baseketballs.

Webster, sorry, if you dont like the points I make and have nothing to counter that and prefer to hide under the guise of "unable to comprehend". As always, its only you who doesn't.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/03/13 at 05:51:24


4C4D56515E4B573F0 wrote:
"unable to comprehend". As always, its only you who doesn't.

Cool.
Srinath.



Dude, I say this not as part of the discussion on guns but just as a conversational comment; many of your comments are unintelligible.  I'm not trying to be mean or confrontational here at all...just saying it is often hard to understand what you are trying to say.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 01/03/13 at 05:53:23

Srinath; take Lancer's point to heart.
Type half as much and you'll say twice as much.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/03/13 at 05:54:56


727F707D7B6C2C291E0 wrote:
[quote author=4C4D56515E4B573F0 link=1356372413/30#43 date=1357184684]

"unable to comprehend". As always, its only you who doesn't.

Cool.
Srinath.



Dude, I say this not as part of the discussion on guns but just as a conversational comment; many of your comments are unintelligible.  I'm not trying to be mean or confrontational here at all...just saying it is often hard to understand what you are trying to say.[/quote]


You seem to be making comments to my comments just fine. So I thin kyou can comprehend just fine.

So is webster BTW, so I am pretty sure its a ruse to not admit he's cornered.

Cool.
srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/03/13 at 06:10:21


1F2D2A3B3C2D3A05293A23480 wrote:
Srinath; take Lancer's point to heart.
Type half as much and you'll say twice as much.



If you typed nothing at all, you would appear very smart and tolerant as well my friend.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Paraquat on 01/03/13 at 06:16:41


3332292E213428400 wrote:
[
You say this ... but the same side that "wants guns so people have the freedom to do as they please" is all about restricting the rest of the rights as you have outlined.

You are a pro gun liberal looks like.
Cool.
Srinath.


I am not taking any side. I'm an army of one. I am making my own decisions and choices.
Just because I agree with a group on one topic does not mean I agree with that group on other topics. It's like voting - having to choose the lesser of two evils.


--Steve

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/03/13 at 06:18:32


4B7A697A6A6E7A6F1B0 wrote:
[quote author=3332292E213428400 link=1356372413/30#36 date=1357154930][
You say this ... but the same side that "wants guns so people have the freedom to do as they please" is all about restricting the rest of the rights as you have outlined.

You are a pro gun liberal looks like.
Cool.
Srinath.


I am not taking any side. I'm an army of one. I am making my own decisions and choices.
Just because I agree with a group on one topic does not mean I agree with that group on other topics. It's like voting - having to choose the lesser of two evils.


--Steve[/quote]

I agree with your line of thinking, having to choose between the lesser of 2 evils and deciding based on issues not on party line.
BTW I know of quite a few gun toting liberals ... in fact there is a few bumper stickers round my hood to that effect as well.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/03/13 at 06:48:10


45445F5857425E360 wrote:
[quote author=727F707D7B6C2C291E0 link=1356372413/30#44 date=1357221084][quote author=4C4D56515E4B573F0 link=1356372413/30#43 date=1357184684]

"unable to comprehend". As always, its only you who doesn't.

Cool.
Srinath.



Dude, I say this not as part of the discussion on guns but just as a conversational comment; many of your comments are unintelligible.  I'm not trying to be mean or confrontational here at all...just saying it is often hard to understand what you are trying to say.[/quote]


You seem to be making comments to my comments just fine. So I thin kyou can comprehend just fine.

So is webster BTW, so I am pretty sure its a ruse to not admit he's cornered.

Cool.
srinath.[/quote]

Yep, I have commented on some of your postings and I have also stated difficulty understanding what you were trying to say, so this was not the first time I have raised this subject with you.
I'm just being honest with you on this.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/03/13 at 06:53:36

Your comments are pretty appropriately countering mine ... I think its more of your perception than actually being so.
I'm not from around here so to speak, so it could be that too.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/03/13 at 16:24:36


5C5D46414E5B472F0 wrote:
Your comments are pretty appropriately countering mine ... I think its more of your perception than actually being so.
I'm not from around here so to speak, so it could be that too.

Cool.
Srinath.



Where are you from ?

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/03/13 at 20:23:15


68656A6761763633040 wrote:
[quote author=5C5D46414E5B472F0 link=1356372413/45#51 date=1357224816]Your comments are pretty appropriately countering mine ... I think its more of your perception than actually being so.
I'm not from around here so to speak, so it could be that too.

Cool.
Srinath.



Where are you from ?
[/quote]

You wouldn't believe if I said california would you ?

OK I did spend a lot of time there, but India for 1/2 my life. US for the second 1/2. PA, WA, CA, Canadia, NC etc are places I spent atleast 1 year ...
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by mpescatori on 01/04/13 at 01:08:03


787962656A7F630B0 wrote:
[quote author=68656A6761763633040 link=1356372413/45#52 date=1357259076][quote author=5C5D46414E5B472F0 link=1356372413/45#51 date=1357224816]Your comments are pretty appropriately countering mine ... I think its more of your perception than actually being so.
I'm not from around here so to speak, so it could be that too.

Cool.
Srinath.




Where are you from ?
[/quote]

You wouldn't believe if I said california would you ?

OK I did spend a lot of time there, but India for 1/2 my life. US for the second 1/2. PA, WA, CA, Canadia, NC etc are places I spent atleast 1 year ...
Cool.
Srinath.
[/quote]

Permission to butt in !

Srinath, I believe I see Lancer's point.

Regardless your excellent command of the English language, the message Lancer (and others) is trying to get across is that you thik in a different way from them, and your perceptions are different, so your comments may offend someone...
... not because you are wrong, but because you are different.
I believe you did your high school in India, and emigrated to the US... possibly after graduating?

Mind you, exactly the same applies to me.

Even though I spent a good portion of my school years in the US (Fairfax Co., VA) I did my high school years in Italy, and that is the time when one forges his character and the fundamentals of his ethical, political and social views.
That is when you create your individual points of reference for life to come.

When one suggested "you write too much", I had to smile at myself because I make exactly the same mistake
(see, here we go again !  ;) )
It is a matter of culture.
You and I are Old World, whatever you may think or however you may feel. We thrive on discussion over smantics.
The rest of the Forum Members are Anglosaxon, one thought, one word.
It is like the difference between Julius Caesar (read his "Gallic Wars", he summed up Gaul in 5 (five!) words) and Seneca, the philosopher who could rant endlessy on the semantics of the subtleties of grammar... :P
I will save his views on ethics for another time... :-X

;)

Cool
Maurizio

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/04/13 at 04:13:59


36372C2B24312D450 wrote:
[quote author=68656A6761763633040 link=1356372413/45#52 date=1357259076][quote author=5C5D46414E5B472F0 link=1356372413/45#51 date=1357224816]Your comments are pretty appropriately countering mine ... I think its more of your perception than actually being so.
I'm not from around here so to speak, so it could be that too.

Cool.
Srinath.



Where are you from ?
[/quote]

You wouldn't believe if I said california would you ?

OK I did spend a lot of time there, but India for 1/2 my life. US for the second 1/2. PA, WA, CA, Canadia, NC etc are places I spent atleast 1 year ...
Cool.
Srinath.
[/quote]

Thank you for your info.
I was born in Marysville,California and lived there until I was 10, then the family moved to Cupertino and was there until I finished high school.  My folks were both from OK originally and moved back there at that time.  I went off to college and then years in the military.  I've been in SC for 24 yrs and am now preparing to move to OK.
One of my son-in-laws is from India; he moved here about 12 years ago when he was in his early 20's.
We can work through the communication process whether agreeing with each other or not.
Have a blessed day Srinath.


Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 01/04/13 at 09:39:59

This is too funny.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxRlpRcorEU

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by srinath on 01/04/13 at 10:09:34

I've been here 20 years, also moved here in early my 20's.

Atleast I dont insist you speak espanol and refuse to budge, and pretend I dont "comprende" ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/04/13 at 15:20:17


75746F6867726E060 wrote:
I've been here 20 years, also moved here in early my 20's.

Atleast I dont insist you speak espanol and refuse to budge, and pretend I dont "comprende" ...

Cool.
Srinath.


:)

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Starlifter on 01/04/13 at 17:51:43

"Regardless your excellent command of the English language, the message Lancer (and others) is trying to get across is that you thik in a different way from them, and your perceptions are different, so your comments may offend someone...
... not because you are wrong, but because you are different."


I could not disagree more with this opinion. Not only does Srinath have an excellent command of the English Language, but his comments are clear, cogent, articulate, and Spot On.

If he is percieved as "different" from the rest of us, it is perhaps because his intellect reflects poorly on the rest of us.

 


Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 01/04/13 at 18:47:59

I could not disagree more with this opinion. Not only does Srinath have an excellent command of the English Language, but his comments are clear, cogent, articulate, and Spot On.

If he is percieved as "different" from the rest of us, it is perhaps because his intellect reflects poorly on the rest of us.


says the pot to the kettle.....


Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 01/04/13 at 18:48:48

i can't understand what it is Srinath is always trying to say, but I do know he's not a liar.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by Starlifter on 01/04/13 at 18:51:14

Bet he knows you are.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/07/13 at 03:24:23


7C5B4E5D4346495B4A5D2F0 wrote:
Bet he knows you are.


 :(

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by LANCER on 01/07/13 at 03:47:40

 Many of us think differently from others, and thank God we are still free to say so.  While disagreeing on some points with Srinath my difficulty has been mostly grammatical.  Some of his statements are to me a series of sentence fragments strung together.
I assume that since he lived the first half of his life in India that Hindi and not English is his first language and most likely accounts for some of his writing style.
My first wife was the type of person who's mind moved very quickly from subject to subject, and this was reflected in her writing as well, which tended to be sentence fragments strung together, so perhaps it is Srinath's quick moving mind.  She also tended to go from points a & b to conclusion  G in one fell swoop, which made no sense at all to me.  I'm not saying he does that, it's just something some folks do.
It's no big deal; just a communication challenge at times.
My mind works in more of a point by point fashion; 1,2 3; a,b c, and communication between people who's thought processes are different can be difficult.
I give credit to anyone who is capable of speaking multiple languages though.  I do not but wish I did.  I've been thinking about trying to learn a new one lately.

Title: Re: Oh yea one more whacko with guns.
Post by WebsterMark on 01/07/13 at 06:05:41

Bet he knows you are.

I've never lied to Srinath. I disagree with him and can't follow what's he's trying to get across. lancer's probably correct in that it's a language barrier.

you on the other hand Star; lie constantly. It's your defining characteristic.

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