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Title: Posting Post by Dale72 on 11/23/12 at 20:37:58 So beside this forum Im a member on two others forums. One for Military vehicles and one for International trucks. I do enjoy them all but dont feel as "free" on this one. Let me explain!!! Some time back I had problems with my cam chain. Before starting I asked a few questions trying to get as much info and insight as possible. In return I feel I got admonished for my "Lack" of knowledge. Or get told " you obviously dont know what your doing". In return I got told everything but the help I needed. Long story short I fixed my problem with no help or little from this forum. On the other forums folks go outta there way to help or give advice. Here I am almost afraid to even respond or post. I feel like the dumb kid in a class full of nerds. Great site lots of knowledge but I aint nobodies fool, and darn sure aint no-ones whipping boy. >:( |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by ZAR on 11/23/12 at 20:54:36 656469676E786A7D6A6C6E0B0 wrote:
Dale I'm sorry it seems that way. There really are a good bunch of folks here. What you may have perceived as a brush off may really have been a move to get you to study the manual and learn some from it before you asked your questions. You have to understand that the same questions are asked and answered on a weekly basis and all the info you need is right here in the forums if do do a quick search for it. Some of the old-timers here have answered the same question so many times they are tiring of them,therefore the push for newcomers to "look it up". |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/12 at 20:57:59 Congratulations on your success solving the problem, Cam Chain is a common issue, I dont remember your earlier posts or how you were treated or if I did anything to make you unhappy with your experience here, but I apologize if I did. I cant explain why you were not treated well w/o seeing the posts, maybe there was a reason, maybe not,., but, its not ever our intention to have anyone leave unhappy. |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Dale72 on 11/23/12 at 21:06:56 Thanks for the posts. I understand the push to research a issue and can respect that. I am guessing I could have taken some of it wrong. Thanks again. |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by WD on 11/23/12 at 21:23:48 There are a few of us here who've had bikes for longer than we care to remember... I'm at 25 years of street bikes and there are guys who make me look like a novice. Names withheld to protect the ancient... ::) Most of the time things sail pretty smoothly here, but I did take a couple years off in the mid-00s due to the attitudes of a couple no longer on the forum members. Well, that and switching back to v-twins for 3 years or so... Kawasakis, I can't afford to look at a modern Harley (let alone keep one running, been there, junked that). I've dropped a couple motorcycle boards over how the main body of the membership acts... DtT, IA, THBSC... a few other ones... okay, more than a couple. ;) |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Serowbot on 11/23/12 at 21:43:25 7D7C717F76607265727476130 wrote:
You certainly did... I reviewed all your previous posts,.. and found nothing out of bounds... You had two problems, and got good advice on both... ...And I'm the polite police... I only ever get nasty about two things... Insulting the forum, or it's members... .. and people calling me stupid... ... (and, I'm getting used to the second one)... :-?... Feel free to call anyone out,.. if you feel that they are being overly insulting... against you or anyone else... but,.. leave a little room for good natured elbowing and humour... Most of us aren't robots... Serow-bot... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by thumperclone on 11/24/12 at 00:43:28 the only stupid question is the one not asked |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/12 at 06:57:31 3B273A223F2A3D2C2320212A4F0 wrote:
Ive heard that said many times & seen it made wrong lots of times. There really are questions asked while evidence exists, in front of the one asking, that screams the answer, ETA, Thanks Rowboat for digging back & looking. I dont want people thinking theyve been mistreated here, unless theyve been a jerk & earned them some "Mistreatment".. then I want them to KNOW they got a load O Buckshot.,. Bummer ya felt like ya got spat upon Dale, maybe try again? Row really is the polite police & he's good at it & fair about it ( I will continue to maintain that for as long as he agrees with ME!) So,, If he says ya didnt get slapped around, Id hafta say it was just some miscommunication,, Black & White letters dont convey the subtleties of conversation, tone & inflection & such. Its easy to get things wrong, take something like its an insult when its just goofin. Its a lot easier to do that if youve had bad experiences already, I say Come on Back & hang out a while, give it 6 months. YOull see its a harmless lot of ol guys & a Few ( too few) ladies, Then, once ya get all settled in & comfortable,, we'll see if we can show ya what REAL abuse looks like! Now, how could anybody refuse an offer like that? Huh? IM askin ya,, HOW? |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Dale72 on 11/24/12 at 09:17:58 I thank ya for your input. Maybe I was over sensitive. I will be more open and observant to those trying to help. And I dont wanna be handled with kid gloves either. By trade I am a officer in a prison so I by nature have " Thick skin". Maybe I should understand I am dealing with different cultures and attitudes and myself may not recognize concern. I will post again. This is a most helpful site and the modifications I have seen are awsome!! I think what got me sideways is the way people were simply trying to get my attention and one guys opinion of me buying a new cam chain. Not only am I new to Savage bikes I am also new to motorcycles. What started out as a "Starter bike" has turned into a passion. I now own 2 bikes but have had 4 since. Cant part with the Savage. Again Thanks. :) |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/24/12 at 19:10:25 Cant part with the Savage. Yea,, they make a lousy comb, |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by 360k+ on 11/25/12 at 09:14:02 Dale, many times the reason that the seasoned old timers might steer you toward a means of solving your own problem (searching & reading, etc.) is because it helps you learn more in the grander scheme. You've heard the old story about giving a man a fish vs teaching him to fish. The same thing applies here. Some people just want a quick answer, but they rarely learn anything that way. For instance, every problem has a solution, but there are also underlying reasons that caused it in the first place. When looking up the answer and solving the problem themselves based on the information, they learn so much more. |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Dale72 on 11/25/12 at 18:34:15 True... To say the least I know know there are forums with tech. advise and extracts from manuals. I have started to post again. Soon maybe I will check into how to post pics and learn to navigate the site better. Im not a overly computer friendly / confident person ...may be why i was so defensive at first. |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by ZAR on 11/25/12 at 20:03:52 2829242A23352730272123460 wrote:
Yeah Dale....a lot of us know as much about computers as we do women :o ;D |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Dave on 11/26/12 at 10:09:02 03180B590 wrote:
Yeah Dale....a lot of us know as much about computers as we do women :o ;D[/quote] I have problems with the operating systems of both! |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by kimchris1 on 11/26/12 at 12:33:17 Dale, nice to hear your gonna stay around. As one of the few gals here, I can assure you that the guys here go out of their way to help and make sure your problems are fixed. I have NEVER been made to feel stupid for any questions I have asked. I have learned how to do my own front brakes and change my own oil, thanks to the information from the forum members here. I miss all of them when work and such keeps me away for extended periods of time like it has the last couple of months. It will be over shortly and I will once again be back with my Suzuki family. ;) So grab a beer or soda or whatever your choice of beverage is and enjoy being part of the family..Hugs.. :) kim |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by ZAR on 11/26/12 at 19:38:02 407B7661707C67617A727F60130 wrote:
Yeah Dale....a lot of us know as much about computers as we do women :o ;D[/quote] I have problems with the operating systems of both![/quote] Yeah Dave...........but I sure like learning their "software" ;) |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Dave on 11/27/12 at 05:27:16 One of the issues that I have.....and I think many share on this site....is that I get frustrated when a nooby doesn't take any time to look and see if their issue has been posted and discussed at length previously. When I found this site it was before I bought a Savage, and I spent some time reading old posts to see what makes this bike tick and learned of the strengths and weaknesses. When I could not find the information I was looking for I would post a question - but not until I tried to find an answer first. The second thing that is bothersome is when someone posts a question and gets good advice on how to solve it......then ignores it and goes off in another direction. We can help....but only if you are willing to listen to the voice of experience that the members here can offer. The combined knowledge of this forum can usually solve most problems.....but you have to accept that there will be work required on your part to get something done. |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/27/12 at 21:20:06 YOu were a better newbie than I was,, I found this place & started askin questions,, questions Ive seen OHHHver & OHHHver again,, BUT, I took it on myself to answer those inquisitive newbies. Just as a way to thank the Old Timers for their patience with my inexperience added to my enthusiasm MULtiplied by my Ignorance, ( INexperience was at a value greater than Zero, Enthusiasm was a value also greater than Zero, Ignorance was at a value approaching IN screamin Phinitee,, ) Anyway, I felt like I created quite a Debt of Gratitude, si, Ive been working to pay it back,, Good for you & your approach,,Ya done GOOD, dude! |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Starlifter on 11/27/12 at 21:33:11 Welcome aboard Dale, we are glad to see you here. :D ...but please DO NOT even open the "Tall Table" thread...we fight with knives, chains, and brass knuckles there. :o |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Badass94Cad on 11/28/12 at 08:59:33 Jeez, I feel like this is one of the most LAID BACK, helpful forums I've ever been on, and I've been on a lot! Sure, guys get to ribbing, or tell you to use SEARCH before asking the same questions that have been covered 1,000 times over, but that's how every forum works. If you think things are rough here, head over to an HD forum, lowrider forum, or hell, some of the import forums. Some of those guys can be ruthless behind a keyboard. ;) |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/12 at 09:40:43 You mite not be as thin skinned as some Chad,, you mite see "ribbing" when someone else sees a Mugging! |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by Serowbot on 11/28/12 at 09:51:41 I try not to go after noobs... 'till they settle in... Then, they know where I'm coming from... I try to poke JOG in the eye, at least once a day... I just don't feel right all day if I don't... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Posting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/12 at 19:32:08 & that may not sound all that mean to most of you, till you come to realize I only have one,, |
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