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Title: Old timers - personal Post by 360k+ on 11/23/12 at 10:22:00 I am 65 and beginning to have prostate problems as follows... A) have to pee 5 or 6 times a nite, and each trip only renders about 4 oz. B) when away from home, I experience false "emergency" situations when my bladder isn't really full. (again, maybe 4 to 6 oz) C) very little pressure (a trickle only). D) when I stop peeing, I still feel like I need to go more; i.e., bladder doesn't feel empty. I had a recent PSA test in Oct, and am within limits for my age, so I don't think it is anything other than prostate swelling. Anyway, I see TV ads for various products to help with this, but of course, TV ads are mostly actors wearing Dr smocks making extravagant claims. I was wondering if any of the old timers on here had real hands on experience (eh, so to speak) with any products? |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by gerald.hughes on 11/23/12 at 10:26:24 There are herbals out there, but you never know the purity or strength of what you buy at health food stores. Go to your doctor and get a prescription. There are three or four different medications that will eliminate the symptoms that you are experiencing. This from my own experience. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by Blinky on 11/23/12 at 10:39:06 360+, My doctor has me on Saw Palmetto and Zinc, both available at Wal Mart. They are working well for me. Good hunting |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by verslagen1 on 11/23/12 at 10:41:17 My dad uses one of those "late night TV ad" remedies. Says it helps, not a cure though. Probably recognize the name if I saw it, but a little leery about searching for it least I'll get bombarded by spam for it. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/12 at 13:09:45 Taking Magnesium helps muscles relax. People who take calcium & dont take Mag are setting up for a heart attack, Lack of mag means muscles dont relax fully & well. That includes sphincters. Bladders have muscles, too. Decreased time between "The Urge" says its not relaxed enough, too. It may take 6 months to see improvement, it may take 2 weeks, depends on so many variables, |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by tizzyfit on 11/23/12 at 15:39:37 Boy, do I understand! I've been on Phytosterols 800 mg from GNC @ $19.99 FOR 90 CAPLETS (1 a day), ZINK 50 mg, very inexpensive at Wal-Mart and Prostavar R/X (SAW PIMENTO). All are over the counter. What I know, from personal experience, my PSA score has been reduced, still not a low as yours but all other functions are like they were 40 years ago. At 68, I'm not sure I want anyone messing around, inside my backside stinky, if everything continues to function normal or close to it. You may want to GOOGLE Phytosterols and ZINK relating to prostate "issues". A number of articles/studies available, which will bore you to death. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by arteacher on 11/23/12 at 15:53:58 What are your blood sugars like? Frequent urination is a common symptom of diabetes. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by Greg on 11/23/12 at 16:00:28 Here is a link with some quality supplements. Scroll past the blood tests to see them. I must add a disclaimer that this is my brother's business and I work for him. But, he is doing this to help people, not make a ton of money. He will always shoot straight. And you can call him directly for information/advice. http://www.drvitaminsolutions.com/search/&search_text=prostate&show=21&order_by=name&sort_order=ASC |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by 360k+ on 11/23/12 at 16:10:28 676C6C656966677D7C080 wrote:
Actually, I had a full blood panel done, of which, the PSA test was a part. Everything else is within bounds except cholesterol at 212 (god made BBQ ribs to keep people like me from ruling the world). My PSA was actually 3.2 and my limit is 4. I don't put a lot of faith in medicine and never have, because I think they just make half the stuff up anyway. I'm the same way with drugs; don't like taking them and believe for each little good they do, there is a downside that comes with it. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by 360k+ on 11/23/12 at 16:14:20 595C5B50575D3E0 wrote:
I used to shoot straight too, but as I say, just a trickle nowadays. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by Greg on 11/23/12 at 16:22:11 7076656E2E2224252E170 wrote:
I used to shoot straight too, but as I say, just a trickle nowadays. 8-)[/quote] ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/23/12 at 17:23:00 Cholesterol is the body's Band Aid in weak vessels. Vitamin C allows the body to produce collagen in higher quantities & collagen is what vessels need to be strong. Take C, daily & watch cholesterol numbers.. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by ToesNose on 11/24/12 at 06:43:21 I am not posting this up to be alarming, just to share. My father who is now 73 had prostate cancer 4 years ago. He kept experiencing frequent urination and some discomfort from the bladder area off and on. Back and forth to the doctors a number of times, both his GP and urinoligist and all tests including PSAs came back normal. They would treat him for a urinary infection each time, rinse and repeat. After 4 times back his GP decided to do a biopsy even though his tests didn't warrant it on a hunch. Turned out he had stage 3 prostrate cancer, luckily he made it through treatments and is cancer free for years now. All said and done none of the doctors involved understand why no tests showed any indication of the cancer especially at stage 3. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by 360k+ on 11/24/12 at 07:01:01 7B404A5C61405C4A2F0 wrote:
Dang it Toes, there goes what little sleep I WAS getting! Juzzz kidding... but you're right, prostate is a very real danger and affects a high percentage of us older gents. Probably all the nuclear tests out in Nevada during the 50's, before they realized above ground testing had "certain side effects" depending on which way the wind blows. Just one more service your Gub has provided. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by Grayowl on 11/24/12 at 09:25:48 ToesNose wrote on Today at 08:43:21: I am not posting this up to be alarming, just to share. My father who is now 73 had prostate cancer 4 years ago. He kept experiencing frequent urination and some discomfort from the bladder area off and on. Back and forth to the doctors a number of times, both his GP and urinoligist and all tests including PSAs came back normal. They would treat him for a urinary infection each time, rinse and repeat. After 4 times back his GP decided to do a biopsy even though his tests didn't warrant it on a hunch. Turned out he had stage 3 prostrate cancer, luckily he made it through treatments and is cancer free for years now. All said and done none of the doctors involved understand why no tests showed any indication of the cancer especially at stage 3. I was 59 and having the same issues and my PSA jumped up to 4.2 and the Docs sent me for a biopsy (not a lot of fun). Since there is a family history of prostate cancer I went along with the recommendation. Ended up with a small amount of cancer showing up in three of the 12 places checked. Talked about treatment options and went with removal. I had a robot do the hard part and recovery was not too bad. I had to wait 90 days between the biopsy and the surgery; I guess the robot had a full schedule. When the surgeon got the results back on the biopsy preformed on the removed prostrate it turned out to be 85 percent involved with an aggressive form of cancer, in 90 days. I went with removal because I did not like the fact that there was no real back up plan on radiation if it did not work. In my case with the form of cancer I had it would not have worked and I would be toast now. As it is, I am cancer free for five years so far. ;D Like Toes I am not writing this to be alarming, but many doctors feel that prostate cancer is a slow deal in folks our age and want to take a wait and see approach, but sometimes that can jump up and bite you in the wrong location. The symptoms are not something to be glossed over and talk to a couple of Docs to make sure you get good answers and advise. The third one I talked to said that at 59 this was something to be really concerned about and to take action now, I am glad I listen to him. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by 360k+ on 11/24/12 at 17:04:38 If the prostate is removed, will your "pencil" no longer stay sharp, so to speak? |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by LANCER on 11/24/12 at 17:57:54 27383E3924231222122A38347F4D0 wrote:
I'm a BIG believer in vitamin C, taking 10-15 grams (10,000-15,000 mg) of C daily. It will do exactly as quoted, plus a lot of other good things for you. After my first 2 weeks on liposomal vitamin C my went from borderline above to away below, my blood pressure dropped over 20 points on bot numbers, and my blood sugar dropped 30-40. There is a book by a Cardiologist named Dr. Levy, "Primal Panacea". It is a eye opener. Check it out. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by LANCER on 11/24/12 at 18:11:49 565043480804020308310 wrote:
Depends on how good the surgeons are and whether they cut the nerves that control your erections. My surgeon was not so good so modern pharmacy is the answer. No, not the famous pill, it is pitifully inadequate for this type of situation. This requires injectibles. They WORK, and RIGHT NOW, and can last for hours depending on the dose. ;) Yes sir re'bob. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by 360k+ on 11/24/12 at 18:41:20 Yikes, injections? At 65, from here on out I think I'd just as soon have a limp pencil. There's certain things you just don't stick a needle into. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by verslagen1 on 11/24/12 at 19:16:52 565B54595F48080D3A0 wrote:
Be careful of who you say BOB around. :o |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by LANCER on 11/25/12 at 04:14:52 7E6D7A7B64696F6D6639080 wrote:
Be careful of who you say BOB around. :o[/quote] Bob ? ? :-? |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by mpescatori on 11/25/12 at 07:11:59 360K, I had a similar problem at... 46 !!! It was nothing to do with my prostate, I had "sand" in my bladder which prevented me from emptying it all the way. A telltale simptom is the weak pressure. Also, if you have that never-ending feeling "you wish you could do just a spoonful more"... Have a urologist take a look, and see if you can eventually expel it. A change of diet may be required. Just make sure you don't go to the point you get kidney pains... |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by 360k+ on 11/25/12 at 07:41:37 716C796F7F7D68736E751C0 wrote:
mpescatori, you must quit going to the beach so often! |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by verslagen1 on 11/25/12 at 08:35:52 3E333C3137206065520 wrote:
Be careful of who you say BOB around. :o[/quote] Bob ? ? :-?[/quote] as in Lorena Bobbitt |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by engineer on 11/25/12 at 10:30:00 The usual reason for a frequent urge to urinate is because the bladder is not getting totally emptied for any number of reasons. If the situation is not corrected the excess urine will begin to gradually stretch the bladder muscles and it will lose its' elasticity and strength. Which makes it worse. Best to see a urologist and find out what is wrong. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by LANCER on 11/25/12 at 10:55:17 6B786F6E717C7A78732C1D0 wrote:
Be careful of who you say BOB around. :o[/quote] Bob ? ? :-?[/quote] as in Lorena Bobbitt[/quote] Ah, yes. That has been a while and I had forgotten about it. Not the desired method to solve issues. Nope. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by LANCER on 11/25/12 at 10:56:49 44464D464F464A50230 wrote:
Left over urine can also lead to bad repeated infections as well. Not fun. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by Dave on 11/26/12 at 12:16:05 You might try giving up diet drinks.....for some reason some of the sweeteners can make me "uncomfortable" frequently. I gave up soft drinks about 2 years ago.....and Diet Coke was the worste one for making me run to the restroom too often. |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by hexnut on 11/26/12 at 13:20:44 ............ |
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Title: Re: Old timers - personal Post by LANCER on 11/26/12 at 15:26:23 4C445B5C4D5F495A5C1819280 wrote:
The root-reuter is entirely different from a prostatectomy and the resulting issues as well. You still have a prostate gland, I don't. I am very glad to hear the rotor took care of your problem without having to go to the more radical surgery, and that you have good function too. That is desirable. |
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