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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/12 at 19:01:16

Title: CO2=Good
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/12 at 19:01:16

http://pbraunmd.org/pbraunmd/global_warming_-_climate_change_and_co2.pdf

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by Serowbot on 11/20/12 at 19:13:07

I try to breathe out as often as possible...  :-?...

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by Midnightrider on 11/20/12 at 19:27:03


1305120F17020F14600 wrote:
I try to breathe out as often as possible...  :-?...

I hope through your nose or mouth.

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/12 at 19:35:24

I know the guy who wrote that. Once upon a time, he worked in a research lab, hes good at math & is married to a really good doctor.

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by 360k+ on 11/21/12 at 08:31:12

"This is an industry problem not a populus problem.
If industry cannot produce a product safely, then it should not be produced."

I'm not sure population doesn't ultimately beget the other problems?  We have finite resources, so there's only so much to go around.  This is what gets me about "mtn coal top mining" and frac-ing.   The jury is certainly still out, at best, yet we keep allowing the corps to do it while we decide if it's "safe".   Once things are upset it takes centuries or millennium to repair, if it can be done at all?

Where I live, you can drive around the area and still see evidence of hydraulic mining.   This was done back in the late 1800's to wash hillsides down into giant sluice boxes in order to extract the gold.   Within a mere 10 or 15 years it became clear that it would destroy the landscape, forests, and fisheries, and was subsequently banned.   But still, a lot of damage was already done.

The thing folks need to understand is that corporations have absolutely NO obligation to ensure your individual health or well being.  In fact, they are chartered, by law, to do one thing, and that is to make money for their investors.   In that endeavor, if they can bypass regulations to improve profit (ala BP), trust me, your safety is of no concern.

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by Midnightrider on 11/21/12 at 11:28:22

If a producy cant be made safely than it is produced in Mexico or China or Russia.

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by WD on 11/22/12 at 06:45:00

Or Canada. Best chrome plating shop in the world is in Surrey British Columbia. Show chrome costs half of the price of a generic bumper shop re-dip.

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by Pine on 11/27/12 at 13:47:06


060013185854525358610 wrote:
"This is an industry problem not a populus problem.
If industry cannot produce a product safely, then it should not be produced."

I'm not sure population doesn't ultimately beget the other problems?  We have finite resources, so there's only so much to go around.  This is what gets me about "mtn coal top mining" and frac-ing.   The jury is certainly still out, at best, yet we keep allowing the corps to do it while we decide if it's "safe".   Once things are upset it takes centuries or millennium to repair, if it can be done at all?

Where I live, you can drive around the area and still see evidence of hydraulic mining.   This was done back in the late 1800's to wash hillsides down into giant sluice boxes in order to extract the gold.   Within a mere 10 or 15 years it became clear that it would destroy the landscape, forests, and fisheries, and was subsequently banned.   But still, a lot of damage was already done.

The thing folks need to understand is that corporations have absolutely NO obligation to ensure your individual health or well being.  In fact, they are chartered, by law, to do one thing, and that is to make money for their investors.   In that endeavor, if they can bypass regulations to improve profit (ala BP), trust me, your safety is of no concern.


I bolded that one line - sooooo many people do not understand this. By LAW.. a corporation MUST do what is in the best interst of SHAREHOLDERS. There is no other mandate. This is why there are 'regulations" and  not laws that governt this, as the two laws would conflict.

It was only a short time ago that Toyota put out recalls ( several) .. doing so hurt the corporate image and thus shareholder values. THE SHAREHOLDERS SUED.

Title: Re: CO2=Good
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/27/12 at 19:33:28

Thats messed up, Pine,, not sayin youre not 100% correct, just sayin that thats messed UP..


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