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Title: HID Recommendation Post by comp_pro on 11/17/12 at 07:40:48 I'm seriously thinking of swapping my stock headlight out with an HID light. Does anyone have any recommendations for any particular kit out there? I've seen them everywhere from 12.99 to 98.99 (the biggest price spread I've seen on just about anything). I don't want to end up with a piece of junk, but on the other hand I don't want to end up paying 4 prices for it either. Any ideas?? Thanks! |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by Borracho on 11/18/12 at 08:32:06 I have the same question. My headlight bulb went out- I always try to upgrade each part when I replace, if possible. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by rfw2003 on 11/18/12 at 14:19:18 Well for sure I will say NOT to buy the one from http://www.customdynamics.com Not only is it more expensive then most, but I've had 2 of them go bad already. First one the ballast went out, and the second on after they replaced it with another full kit for free, the bulb itself came apart. Right now I'm back to just a normal H4 halogen replacement till I figure out which one of the HID kits I want to try next. I'm thinking of trying one of the kits that has the dual bulb type for the hi/lo this time instead of the movable bulb to lessen the chance of the shield issue coming apart from the vibration and shattering the bulb like what happened on my second failure. The dual bulb kits use a regular incandescent bulb for the high beam for those states that require both a high and low beam for inspection like we do here in TX. R.F. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by comp_pro on 11/18/12 at 15:44:06 Thanks RF, I was actually thinking about this one http://shop.hidcountry.com/motorcycle-hid-kit-1/, but still not sure. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by verslagen1 on 11/18/12 at 16:17:45 looks like you're only getting low beam with this kit. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by comp_pro on 11/18/12 at 18:44:05 Verslagen, If you choose the "Bulb Size" drop down list, you can choose "9004/H4 Bi-Xenon (High/Low) + $14.95". This should be the high and low beam. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by verslagen1 on 11/18/12 at 18:46:46 yep, didn't see that. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by Gyrobob on 11/19/12 at 15:47:17 3834362B762B29345B0 wrote:
one halogen and one HID |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by SaVaGeEaRL on 11/19/12 at 16:24:07 I don't see 9004/H4 Bi-Xenon (High/Low) + $14.95 in the list, only shows 9003/H4 Bi-Xenon (High/Low) + $14.95 Will that work or don't we need 9004? |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by verslagen1 on 11/19/12 at 17:23:16 Hmmm... thought it said 9004 yesterday too... don't matter, H4 is what you need. 9003 or 4 is just an also fits. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by Gyrobob on 11/19/12 at 19:44:18 unfortunately, you have just a few choices, none of which are marvy. There is no dual filament HID bulb that works well, and most are not DOT approved. This is because the system used for high vs low (moving filaments or shades) is not very precise or reliable. The common "dual filament" solution is to use HID for one filament and halogen for the other, resulting in more precision, but while one has a low current draw, the other is usually higher than stock. The other common solution is just to use an HID setup as a single filament in a headlight, necessitating two headlights, a Hi Beam HID, and a low beam HID. This could be cool if you want a dual headlight look with only one on at a time. This would lower the drain on the system as well. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by comp_pro on 11/20/12 at 06:37:34 Thanks for all the info guys..my main "goal" with this conversion was to shave a little of the load off of the electrical system. I think I may need to think about this a little more. :) |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by Dave on 11/20/12 at 07:11:31 I am not sure about how the HID conversions work when you are the rider/driver......but I can comment on how they seem to work to the person in the oncoming car (me). The cars and headlights designed to use HID seem to control the extra bright light pretty well, and they don't seem to blind oncoming drivers. Some of the HID conversions that come toward me each morning are just blinding - as the light housing or the conversion just don't control the light well and it shines way too high. The conversions they put in SUV or trucks are really obnoxios as they are the same height as my rear view mirror....and are just horribly bright. One fellow in a Ford truck has put HID's in both headlights and both foglights......and it is really painfull when he comes toward you. I would suggest looking at a brighter conventional bulb before going to HID......as I just don't think the reflector in the Savage is really set up to be an HID light - and the control of the light with an HID is questionable. The HID bulbs in lights/reflectors not designed for them is kind of like too loud of pipes......just plain rude to other drivers. |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by Gyrobob on 11/20/12 at 07:29:37 767A78653865677A150 wrote:
I'm concerned about electrical load as well, since our beloved machine has such a modest alternator. Here's what I plan to do about it: -- I considered an HID setup, but, for the reasons I mentioned in the previous comment, became disenchanted. -- I am fitting, as we speak, a "train light." Cool name, eh? This is a Suzuki GS1150 headlight assembly. A 9" diameter bucket with an 8" lens. -- That train light has a huge reflector, so it is a lot brighter for a given wattage than our less-than-large stock reflector. -- I will use a 35 watt H4 bulb. Not as bright as the stock 55 watt bulb, but should still throw more photons than the stock setup, because it will sit in the train light reflector. -- The 35 watt H4 bulb puts about the same load on the alternator as the HID system, so I should still be getting an advantage watt-wise. -- 99% of my riding is during daylight, so I am going to install a switch to turn off the headlight during the day. --- This will save me 35 watts I can use for an electric vest, gloves, gps, etc. --- I have already purchased some tiny white LEDs to be installed inside the reflector to light up the headlight some during the day. These little suckers are BRIGHT and need only a fraction of a watt each. They will be bright enough to make the headlight visible during the day, but not really bright enough to ride around at night. Based on a mock up test in a darkened workshop, you could ride at night with these things on and the halogen bulb off if you didn't go more than, say, 20 mph. Brighter than a parking light, but not as bright as a normal headlight. The train light assemblies are hard to come by, and are obsecenely expensive. -- I bought a beat-up pile of ebay crap for $128. The law of supply and demand is in full force here. I spent a few evenings just doing straightening and bodywork on the bucket and the rim. -- You could do just about the same thing with a much more commonly available, and, therefore, much cheaper solution. There are several sources out there for 8" buckets with a 7" lens. This would cut the power of the light 10% maybe, but be cheaper and less labor required. Maybe $60-$90. Here's one: http://www.flyncycle.com/black-round-headlight-41259.html |
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Title: Re: HID Recommendation Post by Gyrobob on 11/20/12 at 08:07:41 53686572636F747269616C73000 wrote:
Like me, he is looking for less of a load on the Savage's skinny little alternator. There are brighter H4 bulbs, but a lot of them are not DOT legal, and have an even greater hunger for watts. |
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