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Message started by heroicseven on 11/02/12 at 17:26:58

Title: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experience?
Post by heroicseven on 11/02/12 at 17:26:58

I'm helping a friend get a bike and of course he wants a cafe. I told him to get a savage so that I would know more about it but he insists on a 74 or 76 bmw. He is barely inclined to change a lightbulb let alone be able to refurb a classic moto. So I will be doing most of the work, or he will have to pay a garage. anyways,  Anybody have any experience with them?

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Cavi Mike on 11/02/12 at 17:50:59

Oh jeez. This is someone that you really should help him by NOT helping him. What you're doing right now is known as "enabling" him. Don't tell him he's awesome because you don't want to hurt his feelings. Telling him what he wants to hear is only going to make the situation worse. Tell him what he needs to hear and that is simply to stop being a hipster.

Then again - if you're afraid to tell him NO because you're afraid of losing his friendship, you may be in need of an intervention as well.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 18:41:27

I've done a little on Beemers from the 60's 70's and 80's...
My buddy is restoring a 1966 r69s right now...

... but I have to know the question before I'll know if I have an answer... :-?...

The throttles are wicked stupid design... points are often a problem... coils are usually bad at that age...

.. and remember to teach him the Beemer rider code...(hand over heart)..
"I will only wave to other Beemers"...
;D...

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Charon on 11/02/12 at 19:24:51

I've never really had much to do with BMWs, but when someone thinks he wants a bike 35 years old I'd suggest to him he make sure of a parts source. A small consolation would be it doesn't have any electronics to speak of, except perhaps a voltage regulator. I'd ask whether the fuel system can handle ethanol. I'd also point out the virtues of 35 years of advances in suspensions and brakes.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Cavi Mike on 11/02/12 at 19:36:34

He wants a vintage cafe beamer even though he can't turn a wrench. All of this is gonna go right over his head and he prolly doesn't care as long as his Atari t-shirt and WWII bomber jacket don't get stained in the process.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 19:44:55

Yup,.. if you're going to own and ride a bike that old,.. you should be able to rebuild a carb or set point gaps on the side of the road...
;)...

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by v-pilot on 11/02/12 at 20:10:40

I did a '73 R75/5 back in the day...frame off...parts are costly.  Basically what the others have said is spot on.  They are reliable though.  Make sure the valve guides are converted to run unleaded gas.  And you'll need to be able to do valve adjustments regularly...the valve train is noisy...push rod air cooled like my Guzzi's.  He'll also have to get used to hot feet 'cause they're right behind the cylinders.  For a second bike it would be fine.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by heroicseven on 11/02/12 at 20:26:37


684A5D426642404E2B0 wrote:
He wants a vintage cafe beamer even though he can't turn a wrench. All of this is gonna go right over his head and he prolly doesn't care as long as his Atari t-shirt and WWII bomber jacket don't get stained in the process.



Laughed my tushy off! You are spot on.

I told him the pitfalls of buying a bike of this age but he looked at me blankly, pulled out his iPhone 5 and showed me a picture of a beautifully (professionally built) minimalist cafe bike and said "I want it to look like this!" I'm excited about seeing the insides of a different bike but not about his attitude.

Ill have to look into a therapist for my intervention, he's hell bent on buying the bike tomorrow.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Cavi Mike on 11/02/12 at 20:52:37

Make sure it never works properly until he eventually gets sick of it and wants to get rid of it for cheap. Give him the old "I'll take it off your hands..." proposition. They get sick of things pretty quick when they don't understand them and they don't work. You're in the prime position as long as you play your cards right.

And trust me, when you get it running and give him that other old "Oh, turns out it was just..." he won't say a word because a hipster can never allow himself to appear defeated.

He'll always secretly hate you anyways, might as well benefit from it.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 21:19:43

Atari t-shirt and WWII bomber jacket don't get stained in the process.

Head shot!

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by heroicseven on 11/02/12 at 21:44:23


302F292E33340535053D2F23685A0 wrote:
Atari t-shirt and WWII bomber jacket don't get stained in the process.

Head shot!


Still laughing about that. Might amuse ya'll to mention that he cant stop talking about the awesome leather jacket ($400) and super sick custom handmade handpainted helmet he wants to get. ($600) money doesnt really seem to matter with him, he gets it off the books in large amounts if you catch my drift.

@cavi, excelent idea ;D I'll "do everything I can to get it running"

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 21:48:51

So, he wants a minimalist bike, & a bling helmet, with a leather jacket?
He wears long sleeves & shorts with boots, right?

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by heroicseven on 11/03/12 at 00:59:30

Lol, na he isn't that bad, but its definitely an image move.

Well he just put a deposit down on the bike. It is actually looking like a good bike, he's buying from the second owner, maintinence records with receipts. So we will see when we get it down from LA to SD What it needs

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by engineer on 11/04/12 at 17:45:59

If that second owner BMW is in good stock condition it will be worth a lot more down the road if he keeps it stock.  BMW collectors like them stock.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Charon on 11/04/12 at 18:05:13

I know the subject is BMW, but...

A co-worker and Harley aficianado once told me the secret to Harley ownership. One who buys a new Harley has to immediately customize it and "make it his own." One who buys an old Harley must immediately "restore it to original condition."

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Midnightrider on 11/04/12 at 18:21:35

I restored a 1974 Moto Guzzi. Loved it. I think the Europrean bikes are easier to work on than the Asian bikes. The best "mod" I did to it was put a Dyna Electronic Ignition on it. All I had to do after the installation was barely bump the starter and it would fire right off, ran a lot better and got 3 more mpg. I've installed several more Dyna Ignitions on older bikes for other people and they all love em.

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by ToesNose on 11/05/12 at 12:20:12

If money is no object, he wants a retro style cafe but doesn't know which side of a wrench to hold, tell him just to buy a Triumph Truxton and save all the agrivation and headaches from breaking down and having to wait for a motorcycle tow or roadside mechanic LoL   :D

Title: Re: Bmw R90/6, anybody have expertise or experienc
Post by Gyrobob on 11/07/12 at 04:48:26

I had a 100/7 in 1985.  My plan was to use it as my daily driver but also for TDY USAF trips.  
-- On a trip from Moody AFB Georgia to Grissom AFB Indiana, the input shaft on the transmission rounded off, stranding me with a vehicle that was completely, and very expensively, disabled.  I was late to the conference.  The General was not happy.
-- On a trip from Moody AFB to the Pentagon, the alternator died.  The General was not happy.

I switched to a 1983 Suzuki GS850 and never missed a conference or Bike Week thereafter, and,... I don't use BMW motorcycles anymore.

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