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Message started by clearush on 11/01/12 at 21:06:24

Title: So I guess
Post by clearush on 11/01/12 at 21:06:24

I ticked off a Hardly rider by blowing past him on the Tollway doing 80 going home... ;D he jumped out of the slow lane and followed for about a mile or two and then proceded to do a same lane pass on me :-/ found it kind've funny.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by v-pilot on 11/01/12 at 22:03:05

Don't lose any sleep over it...He was just pissed off he was riding an over weight over priced under powered piece of crap, I do it all the time ;)

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by Serowbot on 11/01/12 at 22:38:20

Be careful playing tag with a Harley rider,..
...you'll get oil spray on you... :-?...

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by verslagen1 on 11/01/12 at 22:51:46

imagine how pissed off he'd be if you sped up and kept with him.

8-)

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by 12Bravo on 11/02/12 at 06:15:54

756671706F6264666D32030 wrote:

imagine how pissed off he'd be if you sped up and kept with him.

8-)

I use to do that all the time on my Suzuki Burgman 650. The look on their faces when getting passed by a scooter is priceless ;D

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by Oldfeller on 11/02/12 at 06:33:00

Folks, this is the Cafe, not Politics and Religion.

Wipe the mud off your feet when you come into the Cafe.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by ColoS40Girl on 11/02/12 at 07:02:21

:o Really?! I think Harleys are more reliable than S40s. Petcock issues, fuel issues on hills/turning corners, et al. Maybe years ago Harleys had problems but the new bikes are solid. I do not have to worry about these issues I have read about here. Don't hate what others have selected as their bike of choice. The S40 is just another choice. And, Harley riders are not in a hurry to get do the road. They prefer to enjoy the ride. As far as "racing" another biker...that is a "male" thing. And we all know men can revert to childish behavior. ;)

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by oldNslow on 11/02/12 at 07:53:56

082B2A2A2D21162D202137440 wrote:

I agree. I like my S40 just fine, and I paid a lot less for it than any Harley I could possibly buy in comparable condition, but I sure wish I didn't have to pull the clutch cover off it some time this winter to check the cam chain adjuster on a motor that's only got a little more than 9
thousand miles on it.

Most of the guys I know that ride Harleys are actually pretty nice folks.
Some of them even wave back at me when I'm out riding around.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by 360k+ on 11/02/12 at 08:01:50

75565757505C6B505D5C4A390 wrote:

I'm with S40Girl on this. My Beemer will out perform, out corner, out run, and out distance any Savage, but it's not better, only different. Each bike has it's pluses and minuses as part of their individual character, just like we human people do.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by Oldfeller on 11/02/12 at 08:03:16

Colos40Girl,

I cannot say very much about other people bashing on Harleys (guilty, am I), but I think MMRanch and Lancer have a unique perspective on that cross brand reliability issue thing having ridden both Savages and Sportsters up to the Dragon with the rest of us. They can speak to that reliability issue however, as I am just an observer.

(360k+, Lancer rode a Beemer to the Dragon one time too, so he can speak to that comparison as well, should he choose to.)

Your point on the integral flaws in the Savage vac petcock and cam chain are quite valid. Harley uses rocker tappet push rods and it uses fuel injection now instead of a vac petcock and carburetor so Harley has moved past those nagging issues that we still have to deal with.

Having now gone past the age of testosterone madness, I have no excuse whatsoever for constantly tormenting Harleys up there in the mountains at Dragon time. If they would quit hanging all them pork chops off their fenders, I would likely be able to quit chasing them ....

The point made earlier about some of the Harley riders being a little bit arrogant acting is also valid. I have been pursued for bit by two (2) Harley riders who were going to attempt to "show me" on a curvy mountain road. This sort of thing has happened more than once.

This was (I think) simply because I was a fat old fart riding on puny 'ol Grandma's silver Savage as Harley riders generally don't do that sort of thing when the crotch rockets flame past them.

It really isn't Harley brand related, this aggressive male behaviour towards the Savage. Ducati riders and BMW riders do the same thing. Even Gold Wing riders do it on occasion.

The fact is nobody likes a Savage passing them -- it is insulting to the other brand biker on a very basic visceral level.

So, it is a failing of the competitive male ego, driven by hyped up testosterone madness and some varying mixture of brand loyalty.

My sex is flawed, I am afraid -- and I am likely the most flawed among them.

Mea Clupa

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by WD on 11/02/12 at 08:35:38

Having owned a ton of Harleys (which means 1964 and older big twins) and a ton of Hardlys (1965 and newer big twins)... I bag on the post-65s from experience, as a whole, they've been junk. My last (and I mean that in more than one way) Evo big twin ate 4 engines and 6 transmissions in 6 months.

Having had the same Savage since February of 1998, I feel just fine bashing MY Savage as being the same class of garbage as every post-65 Big Twin (and every Sportster) I've owned. MY particular Savage has been plagued since day one with electrical problems, fuel issues, brake problems, shift linkages that fail if you look at them wrong, gaskets that sometimes seal and sometimes leak. I keep it around because 1) it's a cute little toy motorcycle 2) I've modified it so far from original that it has a negative resale value and 3) I wouldn't knowingly sell somebody used parts off a cursed bike.

On a good day my Savage will eat any HD it can find. On a bad (typical) day, it's sharing the bed of the truck with one. ::)

For the last 2 years I lived on the west coast, my Savage shared the covered patio with a 1957 Panhead rigid framed, springer fork barhopper. The Savage came to TN, the Panhead went back to the guy I got it from. Savage needs a few hundred bucks in parts/work to be back on the road, I quit adding up HD parts/work at $28K... :o

Would I buy another post-65 HD, a Sportster or another Savage? Maybe, but not likely. Certainly not as a ride it every day machine.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by verslagen1 on 11/02/12 at 08:54:18

Oh don't take our 'posturing' and 'sabre rattling' anything other than good natured funnin'.

Bikes are bikes, they have their good points and bad, some of them are riding.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by 360k+ on 11/02/12 at 09:09:04

0615510 wrote:

Having owned a ton of Harleys (which means 1964 and older big twins) and a ton of Hardlys (1965 and newer big twins)...

Thats two tons of Harleys? Seriously, WD I feel for you. That record would be enough to make me find another pastime, but I don't think your case is typical. I've been riding 45 years and have owned several Harleys, Hondas, Yamahas, Suzukis, one BSA, and one Beemer. Except for the BSA, none of my bikes ever broke in any serious way; just regular maintenance, and safe & sane riding kept them all running pretty good.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by Dj12midnit on 11/02/12 at 16:34:11

6F4C4D4D4A46714A474650230 wrote:

I only have 30 thousand miles on mine so I have not had any of those problems yet. I have had to change the front brakes twice and the tires once.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by clearush on 11/02/12 at 17:19:21

I did think about buzzing him back but decided to chuckle about it an continue on my way.

Probably an out of towner down for the Lone Star bike Rally in Galveston this weekend.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by ColoS40Girl on 11/02/12 at 19:24:16

I only have 30 thousand miles on mine so I have not had any of those problems yet. I have had to change the front brakes twice and the tires once.

30 thousand miles on a S40! I AM impressed. I hope to do half that mileage. I guess I have something to look forward to. I will be picking up my bike from the repair shop at the dealership tomorrow. I hope to have no more scary problems with the bike. :)

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by Charon on 11/02/12 at 19:33:37

I have something over 12000 miles on my '07, with no problems so far. I have replaced the rear tire twice and the front brake pads once. I'm still on the OEM battery. If it were my only bike and I had put all the miles on it, I'd be up well over 25K. Of course, I cannot know whether I'd have had trouble.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by WD on 11/03/12 at 21:57:32

360, I've had over 100 road bikes in 25 years. Anymore, if they don't come with points and a kicker I'm not giving them a second glance. Except for VN800A and VN1500s (except for the 1500A).

My trucks are the same way, carb and points. I have a couple fuel injected electronic ignition mini trucks that won't be fixed once they croak on me.

I don't even buy vehicles with automatic transmissions anymore.

Title: Re: So I guess
Post by Dave Sisk on 11/07/12 at 07:51:22

5271797B787171786F1D0 wrote:

So, it is a failing of the competitive male ego, driven by hyped up testosterone madness and some varying mixture of brand loyalty.

Flattery will get you nowhere, oldfeller. ;D

Dave