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Message started by Drifter on 10/31/12 at 06:00:23

Title: Fema
Post by Drifter on 10/31/12 at 06:00:23

Seems Christie really likes Obama and the help he and fema are doing for the folks on the coast. i guess mitt wants to get rid of everthing that does not make the rich richer!

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/12 at 06:11:15

I think Romney's position on FEMA is the states should take the lead as is currently underway in NJ and NY right now. Fema replies to the state leadership and not the otherway around. So, in that sense, yes, Romeny would end the current Fed version of FEMA, but as we're seeing now, isn't that a good thing?

If Romeny said something definitive earlier, maybe he's views have just 'evolved' like obama's views on gay marriage. won't you give him that benefit of the doubt?

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 10/31/12 at 06:22:37

Booooogus as usual.

Yes states can take over the FEMA functions, just as soon as the states can print their own currency.

Gay marriage is a social issue, not a fiscal issue. Evolve or not evolve, its something that is occouring to the country as a whole. Not just Obama.

Cool.
Srinath.


Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 10/31/12 at 19:13:31

Billions of dollars in destruction in just two states from this storm...Heh, let the states handle this, let the churches feed and house the thousands, let the emergency rooms treat the casualties, let the private sector do the rebuilding and let those who lost everything pay the bills from the private sector...what a fool the twit is. Oh yeah, and he doesn't believe global warming AKA climate change is real....snort.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 00:43:04

Everybody knows the climate is changing, question is Why.,. Why did we stop having an Ice Age? & why did this happen?

The Medieval Warm Period (MWP), Medieval Climate Optimum, or Medieval Climatic Anomaly was a time of warm climate in the North Atlantic region, that may also have been related to other climate events around the world during that time, including in China,[1] and other countries[2][3][3][4][5][6][7] lasting from about AD 950 to 1250.[8] It was followed by a cooler period in the North Atlantic termed the Little Ice Age. Some refer to the event as the Medieval Climatic Anomaly as this term emphasizes that effects other than temperature were important.[9][10]

Despite substantial uncertainties, especially for the period prior to 1600 when data are scarce, the warmest period of the last 2,000 years prior to the 20th century very likely occurred between 950 and 1100, but temperatures were probably between 0.1 °C and 0.2 °C below the 1961 to 1990 mean and significantly below the level shown by instrumental data after 1980. The heterogeneous nature of climate during the Medieval Warm Period is illustrated by the wide spread of values exhibited by the individual records.[11] Warmth in some regions appears to have matched or exceeded recent levels of warmth in these regions, but globally the Medieval Warm Period was cooler than recent global temperatures.[8]

Yea, they say it was lower then, maybe it was, but there are signs of vineyards & wine making further North than can be done today in Europe.
The Climate does change. Been doin it for weeks now.,Ice caps on Mars melting, the Sun is acting up. Has no one noticed there is Always a Boogey Man,? Always something gonna Gitchya if ya dont do what someone wants. & WHAT do they Want? A Carbon Tax,, They dont want to do anything but take your darn MONEY.. The science that "proved" the case? Wanna see the raw data they used? They Destroyed it! The EFFIN De Frikken STROYED the raw data! & Climate Gate? That seriously hurt that religion,

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/12 at 05:07:11

let the states handle this,
not a surprise here, but you are as usual mis-stating someoe's plan. states managing the crisis as they are doing now is preferable to the feds managing the crisis.

funny that you are all over this, but a complete failure and coverup leading to 4 dead people including our ambassador and you are silent as a mouse.....

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/01/12 at 05:58:43


1E2C2B3A3D2C3B04283B22490 wrote:
let the states handle this,
not a surprise here, but you are as usual mis-stating someoe's plan. states managing the crisis as they are doing now is preferable to the feds managing the crisis.

funny that you are all over this, but a complete failure and coverup leading to 4 dead people including our ambassador and you are silent as a mouse.....


Yes we are silent on that, or rather we are saying Repug's cut funding to security and caused that to happen. Not silent.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 10:50:35

I Totally addressed your Lame POsition that because of funding cuts no one could respond to an EMERGENCY call for help, What is allowed, in the budget, for day to day security is one thing. What Can be done in an emergency is quite another & this whining crying load of crap excuse is just so lame its disgusting.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/01/12 at 11:48:10


6E7177706D6A5B6B5B63717D36040 wrote:
I Totally addressed your Lame POsition that because of funding cuts no one could respond to an EMERGENCY call for help, What is allowed, in the budget, for day to day security is one thing. What Can be done in an emergency is quite another & this whining crying load of crap excuse is just so lame its disgusting.


The emergency occoured and was a massive gun battle in minutes and was done in an hour. So you had funding you were going to release when that was happening ?

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/01/12 at 11:51:23


796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:
I Totally addressed your Lame POsition that because of funding cuts no one could respond to an EMERGENCY call for help, What is allowed, in the budget, for day to day security is one thing. What Can be done in an emergency is quite another & this whining crying load of crap excuse is just so lame its disgusting.



Also I should say I have not read all of your or many other people's posts for that matter on the other 3 threads about the libya deaths.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/01/12 at 16:45:56

Those four deaths, over and over and over. Talk about beating a dead horse. Those guys volunteered to go there as the pay was very good.

Four people probably died this week in construction work, in the military, fire fighters, the list goes on. You choose a risky job you take on the risk.

But hey, you anti-government types want to eliminate OSHA, FEMA, deny American's health care, eliminate food stamps, do everything you can to hurt your fellow Americans...but there is no end to your crying and concern for those four guys.

You don't give a rat's butt about those four guys, it's just another jab at Obama, and a plug for your man mittnitwit. You aren't fooling anyone with your fake hand-wringing.

You're hell-bent on all but eliminating government, but you cry "why didn't the govt. do more, why didn't they spend more on security for those four guys".

JOG and Web, the depth of your hypocrisy is mind boggling. Get real.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/01/12 at 18:17:19

No idea what this has to do with FEMA,.. but,.. realistically speaking,.. 20 more Marines stationed at that embassy would have been 20 more dead,.. when RPG's were fired into the building...
Not to say there would have been more there if Rom/Ry were in charge anyway... Ryan voted to cut staffing at embassies....
I call election year, hyped up, issue hunting, political BS...
RPG's were routinely launched into the "green zone" in Iraq, where thousands of US soldiers were stationed and on guard with anti- aircraft guns, snipers, artillery, and air support...
... and revenge on the guilty parties requires local cooperation,.. not blanket aggression...
I like Obama's calm, steady hand at the helm,.. over some chickenhawk, neocon, Rambo...

Thousands dead on 9-11,... many more thousands in Iraq,... and thousands again from Katrina,... and these 4 deaths suddenly have your dander up?...
Politics.... :-?...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 18:39:34

and these 4 deaths suddenly have your dander up?...


Me? SUDDENLY?? Ive been raging about 9/11 & the wars forever,, did ya miss it?
I see this as a Mis Handled situation causing the death of 4. Its MY OPINion,, OOOO Pinion,, that there was sufficient time between the first call for security & the attack to do as Ive said about 3 times now & Im not typ9ing it all again,

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/01/12 at 19:07:21

Not you, JOG... I know your dander's always up... ;D...

I meant Webby...


For you, JOG...  I agree,.. climate is cyclical... and we are likely on an up trend,.. that will feed the ocean climate makers, and eventually cause an ice age...
... but,.. the point is,.. we should acknowledge that this is happening,. and that we should prepare for it, financially, and through modifications to infrastructure...
And,... being that our behaviour might influence it to some degree... we should try to minimise the possibility of worsening this occurrence...
It might mean the difference of having 10 billion dollar damages in storms, or 50 billion dollar damages...
... or losing 2 miles of coast as opposed to 6 miles of coast,.. or even just 2 1/4 miles of coast.... it all cost money and lives...
Every degree,... every foot of sea level,... every acre of crops...

If your bike is overheating,.. you pick up hitch-hikers... :-?...
If your boat springs a leak,... you don't go for deeper waters...  :-?...

Peace, ;)...
Serow

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 19:39:19

Yep, criminal activity, criminal negligence, lies, cronyism, I stay bent outta shape at both sides,,

I guess if I walked between Bush & Bammy so there was less than a foot between me & each of them, Id just die. Ill bet 1/2 of my blood would flood into one arm & leg, 1/2 into the other & Id be ( Sorry,, I Gotta do it)
Bone Dry up the middle & in my head..I expect Id have an almost 100% body hickey. Just a strip of white from Junk to collar bone, with a pale white face & head. Yep, they suck equally & fiercely.. Well,, IDK,, Bush left quite a vacuum to fill, but Bammy is sure trying

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/01/12 at 19:45:44

CIA offers detailed account of attack in Libya.

Source Washington Post


The CIA rushed security operatives to an American diplomatic compound in Libya within 25 minutes after it had come under attack and played a more central role in the effort to fend off a night-long siege than has been publicly acknowledged, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

The account, which was provided to news organizations Thursday by senior U.S. intelligence officials, is the most detailed chronology presented so far of an attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, including two CIA security officers.

U.S. offers detailed account of attack in Libya

The CIA rushed security operatives to an American diplomatic compound in Libya within 25 minutes after it had come under attack and played a more central role in the effort to fend off a night-long siege than has been publicly acknowledged, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

The account, which was provided to news organizations Thursday by senior U.S. intelligence officials, is the most detailed chronology presented so far of an attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, including two CIA security officers.

Read more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-rushed-to-save-diplomats-as-libya-attack-was-underway/2012/11/01/c93a4f96-246d-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-rushed-to-save-diplomats-as-libya-attack-was-underway/2012/11/01/c93a4f96-246d-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html

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Down goes another Republican meme on Benghazi. What will Webster & JOG replace it with? You know they will come up with something. Fox Noise has them so completely propagandized on this issue. Uless Fox itself says the report is truth, they will never believe anything else. It will be a conspiracy, a cover-up, yada, yada, yada.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 20:01:44

I wish I could remember the last time I watched any news on tv. You have no idea what I think yet, do you? You really think the things I post I was TOLD? Everythng Ive posted is my thinking, I have no reports, Im going on what I believe, my OOOOOO Pinion, as I posted earlier. Your condescension is misplaced, not shocking and unappreciated.,

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/01/12 at 22:10:04

Well, your opinion was premature then. It came before all the facts were in and so now logically your opinion will evolve with this newly released information concerning how the situation in Benghazi unfolded. Monday morning quarterbacking isn't always the best way to form a set in stone opinion.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 22:51:51

Ill have a look at the info released. Remember, we've been lied to on more than one occasion. When was the last time info on such an event wasnt Classified, for National Security reasons?

There were a bunch of people like me, making noise. IM not the only "Inside Job" thinking person out there. The %age of us is growing, because awareness of reality is growing. The number of people who no longer agree with either party is growing,too. They Need to put the fire out before the election.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 00:10:49

Obama,.. acting quickly and surely,... reaching across political boundaries,.. and there,... giving comfort, solace, and hope, to those in need...
Romney,.. caught in yet another staged photo-op... and even the staged event is doing the wrong thing...

Romney is a coat hanger, with a spray on tan.. filling space in an expensive, tailored suit...
... and Obama is C. Chrisiie's new best friend... endorsed Republican, C. Powell,... and supported by the most respected man on the planet, Bill Clinton...

Obama 10,... Romney -4...

Rep's better stock up on Oxycontin and Everclear... it's going to be a tough holiday season...

Not you JOG,..
I know you're prepared with whatever you need,... whatever the result...
That's the one positive,.. of certain disappointment...
You're ready for it...
;D ;D ;D...


... and I'm stocked...  I have the same tastes in psychotropic recreation,.. whether I'm celebrating or crying...
All I know,.. is it'll be a healthy dose, either way...
;D...

Do you want a man of action and conviction,... or a mannequin in a suit?...

I think it was Audie Murphy,... speaking about his heroism.... said,..
and I distortedly, ideologically, paraphrase....
"When in doubt,... do something... any action is better than no action"...
They asked him,.. "What made you charge that hill?"...
He said,.."It was closer than going back down"...

I love that... I should pay more attention to the accuracy of the source and words,... but, I like the sentiment so much, I don't want to be disappointed any fault of reality...
Go for it... Just do it... if you're lost in the woods, walk out, not in circles...
It all says,.. that if you act, decisively, with a sincere, moral, certainty.... it will succeed...
Sincerity, and morality, are key... relying on every lesson, from Mr. Rogers, or Captain Kangaroo,... to Shakespeare, or Speiberg...
All morality lessons lead down the same road...
Do the right thing...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 00:23:12

You want a staged photo op?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/Screen%20shot%202011-05-02%20at%205.25.22%20PM.jpg


Not sayin Rombama isnt a lying creep.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 00:41:01

Really?... :-?...
How does that staging benefit Obama?...

I saw that, before... and I thought it made Obama look rather worried and uncertain...
..a diminutive posture and expression...

Sincerely my impressions upon viewing that photo some time ago,... before realising the circumstances...
Why would someone stage it that way?...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/02/12 at 06:06:18

Source Washington Post

The CIA rushed security operatives to an American diplomatic compound in Libya within 25 minutes after it had come under attack and played a more central role in the effort to fend off a night-long siege than has been publicly acknowledged, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

The account, which was provided to news organizations Thursday by senior U.S. intelligence officials, is the most detailed chronology presented so far of an attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, including two CIA security officers.

U.S. offers detailed account of attack in Libya

The CIA rushed security operatives to an American diplomatic compound in Libya within 25 minutes after it had come under attack and played a more central role in the effort to fend off a night-long siege than has been publicly acknowledged, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

The account, which was provided to news organizations Thursday by senior U.S. intelligence officials, is the most detailed chronology presented so far of an attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, including two CIA security officers.

Read more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-rushed-to-save-dipl...


fellas; this is BS. This would have been released by the obama administration during the debate not 4 days before the election. there is more behind this story. i'm traveling today, but i'll dig into this later. it doesn't smell right.

however, on another point, interesting that Star finally says something about this.....

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 07:45:20


495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
Really?... :-?...
How does that staging benefit Obama?...

I saw that, before... and I thought it made Obama look rather worried and uncertain...
..a diminutive posture and expression...

Sincerely my impressions upon viewing that photo some time ago,... before realising the circumstances...
Why would someone stage it that way?...



It was a lie, they werent watching what they said they were watching, whether you see the pic as good or bad for bammy isnt the point,.Its a staged photo. Others may not see thru your eyes, it was meant to be good for them, a hooraah moment. If it didnt transmit it well,, it didnt, Your position, tho, has a lot of merit, He does look small there, concerned, HUman,,Just Part of the Team, not out front,
Its just a ;lie,delivered to us, by our goobs.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 08:39:00

Where did you hear that the photo was staged?...
What evidence?...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 08:41:17

Google is your friend, it was all over the place a coupla weeks after. IDK about TV, but shortwave & innernet news sites.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/02/12 at 08:53:21


26393F3825221323132B39357E4C0 wrote:
Google is your friend, it was all over the place a coupla weeks after. IDK about TV, but shortwave & innernet news sites.


Not unless innernet = your inner mind's net ...
I've been listening to shortwave as well ... sorry may not have been as much as JOG.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 08:54:49

Just because ham radio and internet nuts say it's fake,.. don't mean it's true...

The photo is genuine...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/02/12 at 08:57:17

JOG what shortwave radio you got ?
I am fixing this old tube heathkit ... one day hope to have it glowing

Using a vintage but solid state grundig when I get time away from the kiddo and wifey and NPR and work ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 10:03:34

Hallicrafter 38-B I think, I get nembers & letters wrong, Its a Halli, for sure, 5 tubes, brings things in okay, the discrimination isnt that good, tho.


Row, they admitted they were not watching video, it was set up, they had to admit they werent watching it when the seals admitted they couldnt transmit real time right then,

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 10:14:28

JOG,.. no they didn't...
Net conspiracy nuts used an out of context quote to support their stupid theory that the photo was faked...

It's not fake... no one admitted it was fake...
The entire idea is ridiculous...
There would be no reason to create such a fake...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 10:53:13

There would be no reason to create such a fake...

I disagree. I dont have time right now, Im Upppatree!

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/02/12 at 12:23:07

...is it a 'nut' tree?...if you get my drift...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/02/12 at 13:04:44

A staged photo-op??  ;D ;D ;D  Thank you for this terrific laugh on a Friday afternoon..

What they were watching was live video but it was shot from 600m by a drone circling overhead and relayed in real time to the White House and Leon Panetta, the CIA director, in Langley. The SEALs were not wearing helmet cameras, and those watching in the situation room had no idea what was happening inside the buildings, hence the concern and anguish of those in the room.


Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/02/12 at 15:49:01

No, that photo is not faked.

However, too bad those same people left 4 others to die a few months after that photo was taken. Unfortunately for those 4, their lives weren't as valuable to a weak president as Bin Laden's death.......

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/02/12 at 17:12:34

You know those deaths were 'staged' don't you?  :P

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Serowbot on 11/02/12 at 18:35:49

;D ;D ;D...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/02/12 at 20:22:25

New Details Discredit Fox News Reports On Benghazi Attacks

Source LA Times

By Hayes Brown on Nov 2, 2012 at 9:47 am


A slew of new reporting this morning debunks Fox News reports claiming that the Obama administration withheld assistance during the Sept. 11 attack on a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya. With these revelations, the combined conservative narrative as led by Fox News — that the Obama administration failed to respond adequately during the attack and that mainstream media has not covered Benghazi enough — is in further disarray.

The Los Angeles Times’ version of the CIA’s role focuses the most heavily on pushing back on Fox’s spin:

“At every level in the chain of command, from the senior officers in Libya to the most senior officials in Washington, everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could,” a senior intelligence official said in a statement. “There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support.”

< snip>

In fact, the official said, the military diverted a Predator drone from a reconnaissance mission in Darnah, 90 miles away, in time to oversee the mission’s evacuation. The two commandos, based at the embassy in Tripoli, joined the reinforcements. And a military transport plane flew the wounded Americans and Mr. Stevens’s body out of Libya.

The new reports also contain previously unreported details about the CIA’s role in Benghazi. President Obama and Secretary of Defense Panetta did order U.S. forces into the region, but the CIA was the first to respond to the attack, arriving on the scene in under half an hour.

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GOP hate radio--- which blasted this story to over 50 million sheep over the last week. It has been so obvious the right was just making this one up. Conning the sheep yet again...

That's the story of US politics the last 20 years, since reagan did his most politically significant act, killing the 'Fairness Doctrine' and enabling the right wing talk radio monopoly that still dominates politics.

Faux News is disgusting. After the flubs of rethugs in the last administration these jerks trying to make propaganda over this tragedy is repulsive.




Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/02/12 at 20:51:20

At a friend's house we watched almost 10 minutes of Hannity's show on Fox tonight.

5 takeaways:
1) The Federal government's response to Sandy is worse than the Federal response to Katrina.
2) The Benghazi incident is one of the worst scandals in the history of western civilization.
3) Obama went off to party in Vegas while people in the New York area are drowning.
4) Obama is behind at least 3 points in the polls and he's launching desperate attacks on Romney.
5) Romney will take Wisconsin and Ohio easily.

I almost forgot to mention the shots of the hurricane devastation while frequently cutting to shots of Obama as if to imply Obama is to blame for all the destruction.

And at 6:09 PM, we changed the channel. All of this in less than 10 minutes.

They are truly living inside of their very own bubble. They are running a big time propaganda outfit over there at Fox and it's on hyperdrive as the election is only days away. They are all using Goebbels' and Hitler's playbook. It's very scary.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/02/12 at 20:54:31

JOG said: "Do your own research - Google is your friend."

Under GWB, 11 US embassies were attacked, resulting in 53 people killed

Google it.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/12 at 21:26:53

Had they asked for anyone to send help, because they feared an attack?

Think about it,

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/03/12 at 05:59:08

5 takeaways:
1) The Federal government's response to Sandy is worse than the Federal response to Katrina.

I wouldn't say that, probably equal. Not sure what else could have been done it either case except in the case of Sandy, they could have instantly let any fuel ship into the harbor and learned from Katrina not to exclude non-union workers from helping out.


2) The Benghazi incident is one of the worst scandals in the history of western civilization.

I'm gonna call BS that they said one of the worst scandals in western civilization. it is a huge scandal and if this had happened in late Jan with Romeny president, we'd get nothing by non-stop coverage. as it is, my little local St. Louis paper has all but ignored it, a common technique when they know their guy Obama has screwed up.

3) Obama went off to party in Vegas while people in the New York area are drowning.
again, calling BS that's what they said. prove that. I think he left for bed to get ready for Vegas campaign before his people's bodies were located in Benghazi.

4) Obama is behind at least 3 points in the polls and he's launching desperate attacks on Romney.
it think nationwide, that's probably close to true. maybe 2 pts. i also think it's true he's down a little more than the polls are saying. he's been launching desperate attacks for a while now.

5) Romney will take Wisconsin and Ohio easily.
i've heard several people say it won't be close. I honestly don't know. I work closely with 3 people in the Cincinnati area and they say no one is pushig hard for obama. I was in Iowa this week and saw nothing but romeny commericals, obama has given up iowa. we never see presidential commericals here in missouri since it's a lock for romeny.

And at 6:09 PM, we changed the channel.
let me guess; MSNBC right... ha ha ha...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/03/12 at 06:06:16

That's the story of US politics the last 20 years, since reagan did his most politically significant act, killing the 'Fairness Doctrine' and enabling the right wing talk radio monopoly that still dominates politics.

yea, we wouldn't want to give too much information out. Hell, pretty soon people might start to question their leaders and we can't have that.
I mean after all, why can't we all just sit back and listen to good old Uncle Water Cronkite tell us 'the way it was'....

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/03/12 at 12:52:39

The stoopid is even stronger in these two posts.

What perfect parroting of FOX nooz talking points, spin, lies and nonsense. I guess you will never be able to think for yourself after the FOX brain-washing you suffered through.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/03/12 at 14:54:09

stooped
stooped? what's that?

I'm glad you carefully presented your arguments against my points.... oh wait, you didnt.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by Starlifter on 11/03/12 at 19:13:00

It's like Sooopid....ah, I see it, 'ed' rather than 'id' ..typo, fixed.

It's not that you are stupid Web, I know that you are an intelligent person. It's that your posts are nonsense. Now be honest. Do you really believe the garbage you post? Or are you just playing us for amusement?

Anyway, or either way. There's no point in arguing your posts, or positions. Your mind is closed to all but what you hear on Reich Wing Radio or FAUX NOOZ.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/03/12 at 20:23:58

Yes I do believe.
and Star, saying you won't argue my post and following that up with Reich Wing Radio and Faux Nooz kinda says more about you than it does about me.  but you never have a comeback other than Faux News so it's expected.  Try coming up with good reasons why you think obamacare is going to be working as expected, say 5 years from now. Give me some examples you can point to that would lead me to believe the US government can pull this off...

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/04/12 at 06:20:12

Ohh, Webby, you know the ONly reason you dont think it will work out for us is because the talking heads on the right said so. YOuve got no reasons of your own to doubt. The only reason you dont believe in it is because youve been told not to by Haters,

Title: Re: Fema
Post by WebsterMark on 11/04/12 at 06:42:43

Not true JOG. show me evidence from past experience where government has taken over something previously handled by the private sector and made it better, more efficient and less expensive. Show me just one. Now you can't find anything on the scale of healthcare since nothing the US has every taken on has been that large, but show me something.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/04/12 at 09:12:17

REally? Are you that easily confused? Have you not seen MY position on it?

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/05/12 at 08:35:23


082F3A2937323D2F3E295B0 wrote:
It's like Sooopid....ah, I see it, 'ed' rather than 'id' ..typo, fixed.

It's not that you are stupid Web, I know that you are an intelligent person. It's that your posts are nonsense. Now be honest. Do you really believe the garbage you post? Or are you just playing us for amusement?

Anyway, or either way. There's no point in arguing your posts, or positions. Your mind is closed to all but what you hear on Reich Wing Radio or FAUX NOOZ.



No he really believes it, its just that he is really really wealthy.
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Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/05/12 at 08:40:50


4D5254534E4978487840525E15270 wrote:
Hallicrafter 38-B I think, I get nembers & letters wrong, Its a Halli, for sure, 5 tubes, brings things in okay, the discrimination isnt that good, tho.


Very good one. Keep it glowing in the dark sir. You on any other sites/fora for shortwave ? I wish I could have more time and play with these more ... I dont think in the last month I ever even turned it on.
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Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/05/12 at 16:54:09


7A7B6067687D61090 wrote:
[quote author=4D5254534E4978487840525E15270 link=1351688423/15#29 date=1351875814]Hallicrafter 38-B I think, I get nembers & letters wrong, Its a Halli, for sure, 5 tubes, brings things in okay, the discrimination isnt that good, tho.


Very good one. Keep it glowing in the dark sir. You on any other sites/fora for shortwave ? I wish I could have more time and play with these more ... I dont think in the last month I ever even turned it on.
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Nope,, IDK of any shortwave forums, if you have a link, Id appreciate it,

Im hunting a better radio, but I dont want something small. I like being able to walk over & reach up & just spin the dial with one finger & the radio doesnt move. I prefer the radial dial over the long straight line. They are slow to get the tuner from one end to the other. Mine sits out in the shop & I listen while Im piddling, sometimes China English Hour, sometimes Hate Radio. I get tired of hollering Liar at it, tho, I even listen to foreign stuff, just to see if I can understand Anything they say.

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/06/12 at 06:42:04

All of the ones I have seen are plenty heavy, but I am also very partial to old units. I also dont know of any sites other than the loose "fan" site.
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Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/12 at 06:48:01

Well,, pop anything up, If I dont get what I need, I wont go back,
I sure do want a better radio, Hallicrafters made some with 18 or 19 tubes, Might not be able to keep that running, tubes are getting scarce.
I wish I knew someone who had a good one for sale, I bought 3 off of Ebay before I got one worth having fixed up. & when UPS got it to me, it was all bent up, but I fixed that & sent it off to be recapped & tuned. so, Ive really got about $350.00 in this old radio, counting sending it off to get fixed twice in the last 9 or 10 years,& now, Its boxed up, ready to ship, again.,

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/07/12 at 06:56:56


57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:
Well,, pop anything up, If I dont get what I need, I wont go back,
I sure do want a better radio, Hallicrafters made some with 18 or 19 tubes, Might not be able to keep that running, tubes are getting scarce.
I wish I knew someone who had a good one for sale, I bought 3 off of Ebay before I got one worth having fixed up. & when UPS got it to me, it was all bent up, but I fixed that & sent it off to be recapped & tuned. so, Ive really got about $350.00 in this old radio, counting sending it off to get fixed twice in the last 9 or 10 years,& now, Its boxed up, ready to ship, again.,



Yea you're probably darn good @ this. I wont send it anywhere and I dont know how to do it right, but I am lucky I got it in working shape.
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Title: Re: Fema
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/07/12 at 07:38:00

It took a full day of hunting, making calls, etc, to find someone in Texas who still works on old radios. The guy I usedd last time has stopped doing it, I tried finding a radio club, no go, Ham radio, yea, clubs everywhere, old radio clubs? Nope,,
Anyway, if you need service, you can find it, but you better hurry & get it all lined out while there are still people who can. I had all the old capacitors done in mine, & a bunch of old resistors, too,.
What radio is it you have?

Title: Re: Fema
Post by srinath on 11/08/12 at 10:29:48

I do all of my work, I aint sending it nowhere sir.
I hope to be one of those craftsmen left in the world when everyone is an MBA.
I fix my own bikes ... even when I have no business doing so ... especially on the complicated crap ...
I fix my own electronics, HT to old 2 channel to shortwave to tube amps in 300 lb consoles. I got tons of all of em ... someone told me ... you can fix a new HT receiver the other crap is all a bad joke ... except I only fix HT sheiete when it turns out I can. If not, its a paper weight and I am glad to use it as such ... not so with old audio stuff.

I gutted one of those massive consoles couple years ago, it was pristine ... just didn't have the room for it ... I opened it and took out the amp and set it on the sidewalk saying free. It was pristine when I put it there. 2 weeks it sat there, got rain etc etc, till took it to the city dump. Very very sad.

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Srinath.

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