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Message started by Drifter on 10/31/12 at 05:55:40

Title: JEEP
Post by Drifter on 10/31/12 at 05:55:40

The latest LIE from lyin and mitt is that Obama sold jeep to a foreign country and they are shipping the jobs all to china...WHAT...when did obama buy chrysler??????

This is so far over the top it is beyond hypocrisy, you lie that obama owns jeep, then sells it to another country now they are closing the plant and sending the jobs to china....all the while HE being Mitt is actually doing what he is blaming Obama for! This ad is a total boldface friggin LIE. >:( >:( >:( >:( The American people deserve better!

Jeep is ADDING 10000 jobs in ohio!!! :)

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/12 at 06:06:00

What specifically is factually incorrect?

How did you arrive at Jeep adding 110,000 jobs in Ohio?

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by srinath on 10/31/12 at 06:30:40

Jeep under fiat's ownership is opening a factory in china to sell in china. I believe they are hiring in OH to make some critical components for that and other JEEP vehicles. Dammit guys, Jeep I had heard of looooooooong before I knew what and why when I was a wee one growing up in the villages of India. We even had an old dude we used to call "Jeep grampa" cos ... well he drove a jeep being some sorta army corps guy and being old ... The whole world wants the Jeep, even though we have put that emblem on everything and cheapened it ...

Obama gets blamed for the bailout but when things go right he dont get any credit ?

Anyway Chrysler and jeep were saved by europeans ... not really by Obama.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by Drifter on 10/31/12 at 09:10:30

The VP at jeep said the jobs will be added, the Pres of GM said the ads are TOTAL BS and lies as did the VP at chrysler!

Romeny closed delphi in dayton and REALLY shipped production to china....

ALL fact checkers have said the ads are LIES....sheet people how many have to point this out before people realize........ :o

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/12 at 10:26:35

110,000 jobs in Ohio alone? Who said that?

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by Serowbot on 10/31/12 at 10:42:49

I wish they'd make the old Willy's panel wagon body style again...
I wanted one of those so bad in high school... guys were putting Buick V6's in them back then...
Work of art...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads9/DSC_00121162342315.jpg

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/12 at 10:51:17

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-63-Willy-panel-wagon-pickup-truck-Willys-jeep-/310419165745?hash=item48466c9231&item=310419165745&pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&vxp=mtr

there you go...

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by Serowbot on 10/31/12 at 11:14:27

... and he's throwing in the rust for free... ;D...

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by srinath on 10/31/12 at 11:15:34

I dunno who said 110,000 jobs and where and when etc ... but chrysler CEO said -

“Jeep production will not be moved from the United States to China,” Marchionne stated in the e-mail. “The numbers tell the story,” followed by specific investments Chrysler has made at its plants in Detroit, Toledo and Belvidere, Ill. “Those include more than $1.7 billion to produce the successor of the Jeep Liberty and hire about 1,100 workers on a second shift by 2013.”

It was on detroit free press's site found through a yahoo search - 6-7th link down. Pretty sure Google and bink show it as well.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by Drifter on 10/31/12 at 13:17:30

So Mark, 1. Is the pres of GM lyin..or Mitt
2. Is the VP of chrysler lyin..or mitt
3. Is CBS news lyin...or mitt
4. Is NBC news lyin..or mitt
5. Is CNN news lyin..or mitt
6. Is ABC news lyin..or mitt
7. Is BBC news lyin or mitt
8. Is the Huff post lyin or mitt
9. Is Biden lyin or mitt
10. Is everyone with a brain lyin or mitt?

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by srinath on 10/31/12 at 13:55:32

We dont have to worry about china getting into our auto industry as much any more ...

China and many other countries including the US have long exploited the migrant population for building them selves into the industrailised status. The Myth of a better life in a "city" far away. AKA the Mary Tyler Moore Myth IMHO.

However In china of late that myth has really come to unravel. Migration has started to reverse. The factories have had to move to the villages, everything gets decentralised, and people want better living standards and hence everything rises in $$$.

China has long been @ the forefront in electronics and fragile part assemblies, cos they have massive man power and labor. They however cant assemble auto parts that same way, they have tried to make japan like bikes since 1995 atleast and failed ... korea succeded but china did not. India is better at it than china IMHO.

I wont worry too much about china, 1.2 trillion out of 16 trillion aint much of a problem, I dont think its going to skyrocket ... and I doubt china will start taking up anything from us auto industry ...
No we dont give up. We still need to exceed our own goals and standards, but china aint a huge deal in the auto sector.
Ipad/Ipod etc etc, we have no chance, we are cooked.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by WebsterMark on 10/31/12 at 14:08:09

So Mark, 1. Is the pres of GM lyin..or Mitt

Drifter; i'm just asking you where did you see ohio was going to add 110,000 jeep jobs.

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by Starlifter on 10/31/12 at 17:37:10

Give it up Webster.

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 00:53:25

7F697E637B6E63780C0 wrote:

... and he's throwing in the rust for free... ;D...

Vehicular cancer, & chemo to fix it is expensive & time consuming,
I wouldnt want to pay for the materials to do the bodywork on that poor thing, & I have no idea what it would be worth once it was done.
Need a Mig & some sheet metal tooling. Cut some of those places out & build repair panels.. Heck, they may be available. I know you can buy fender sections for some old pickups that tended to rust out in certain places.Thats a far better solution that sand blasting, treating the rust, beating the area low & Mudding over it,

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/12 at 05:02:50

why won't you tell me about the 110,000 jobs in ohio? where did that come from?

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by srinath on 11/01/12 at 06:50:01

7D4F48595E4F58674B58412A0 wrote:

why won't you tell me about the 110,000 jobs in ohio? where did that come from?

I cant speak for star but if you had a reuters feed (which I obiously do) the time the toledo Jeep/Mitt said/Obama said/CEO said story was getting out, so was this one - if I recall -

The initiative is in partnership with the cities of Philadelphia, Chicago and San Francisco and is meant to add 110,000 jobs, internships and mentorships to the 180,000 summer work opportunities for 16-24 year olds that Obama has promised to create for 2012.

They both ran at almost the same time - tuesday morning if I remember. I wasn't paying too much attention exactly when ... but I think they ran close to each other ...

Being as it was 1100 from one and 110000 from the other, I can see how you could have thought you were seeing double.

However I am not star, and I didn't say anything about 110,000 jobs till now.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/12 at 09:54:24

Jeep! Even smugglers love them,

till they get stuck..

http://media2.abc15.com//photo/2012/10/30/jeep1_20121030172116_320_240.JPG

Left it, high & dry,.

ETA:

Thats some spindly lookin ramps! Can you see that holding that car up?

Title: Re: JEEP
Post by srinath on 11/01/12 at 10:06:04

Oooo is that Jorge Romney bringing his pregnant wives to america ?
Man that jeep has been so deeply rooted in our history ... we have to rescue it ...
Cool.
Srinath.