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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/12 at 22:36:12

Title: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/12 at 22:36:12

Wait a MINNIT!! Its BOTH of them!

http://https://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESj26VCvaKwrsEleh9tUpDr1N1qxtY0aP1k0xqshnShycqgIKCqUklbiL2EdOYCZHhi2uqgxPjyuqQ6v3emDv5lzIPWYU4x2qZ9DK7x0PfqvZ4xzS057ubYr5q7LPv7yv-O668Mn&q=cache%3AXHGOHTlnt64J%3Awww.glencoe.com%2Fsec%2Fsocialstudies%2Feconomics%2Feconprinciples2001%2Fpdfs%2FC10-01C-820487.pdf%20tovernment%20expenditure%20per%20capital%20adjusted%20for%20infaltion&docid=bb2ecac077170dc37fb8213815b8193d&a=bi&pagenumber=1&w=800

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/12 at 22:56:22

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/usgs_line.php?title=Total%20Spending&units=b&size=m&year=1950_2017&sname=US&bar=0&stack=1&col=c&legend=&source=a_i_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_i_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_i_a_i_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_g_g_g_g_g_g_g&spending0=70.33_75.94_99.90_110.05_111.33_110.72_115.80_125.46_134.73_145.75_151.29_164.83_169.50_177.35_189.11_193.89_216.22_248.07_277.19_296.09_321.84_354.79_388.25_411.64_453.23_550.53_620.29_668.15_734.47_809.24_940.24_1051.82_1179.43_1283.58_1353.81_1496.30_1592.72_1662.02_1771.33_1915.12_2088.85_2230.30_2349.28_2420.82_2506.90_2634.73_2719.30_2813.40_2923.17_3053.31_3239.91_3428.54_3697.49_3934.54_4131.75_4397.10_4697.84_4923.25_5339.88_5970.04_5942.98_6115.71_6338.74_6398.80_6564.66_6870.99_7313.94_7727.90

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/12 at 23:00:56

& Whether or not there is a D or an R in the W/H,, we consistently step further out onto the edge of the ledge.
I Say we have stepped out so far that even if we turn 180*& run full speed, our momentum will drag us off/. BUT, the System( the fed & military industrial complex) will not allow us to turn & run. We WILL continue on this path & we Will have an economic collapse, like Greece & Spain, & we will see famine & chaos & riots,,so,, go vote,, believe you are accomplishing something, & , God help us,

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by Paraquat on 10/20/12 at 04:42:59

57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:

we will see famine & chaos & riots

Can't wait.

--Steve

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by srinath on 10/20/12 at 07:05:16

2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:

More bogus sheeite stats that alarm and do very little else eh JOG.

Why not make it even more alarming by refering back to before the great depression.
Or better yet, how about you go all the way back to the tulip bubble of the 1700's ...

Booooooogus ...

As a percentage of GDP it makes a bit more sense ...
As a percentage od the 1940 $ it is just plain BS. Its just about the same as saying a $ is worth 2c.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/12 at 08:24:16

Well,, I can take a simple, plain ol worn out Zero collector value quarter from 1960 & buy a gallon of gas & get $2.00 back in change,

The same $20.00 gold piece that would buy a nice suit in 1930 still will.

The constant growth in expenditures is something we should all see & whether or not it Changes under a bub or a Dem is the actual POINT here.
Each side points at the other as being "The Problem" & here we have at least some indicator its Both of them, & wasnt That the point I was making?

So many do not remember or maybe just dont care, maybe people believe that a piece of plastic with 25 Cents embossed on it is actually worth something. Having a Currency that is of No Real Value is like playing Monopoly. In our society, just as in Monopoly, the rules of the game require us to accept the currency that is used in the game. I get to use Monopoly $$ to buy stuff in the Monopoly Game, I get to use Federal REserve notes to buy things in American society. But, a federal reserve note is "worth" the same in real money terms, exactly Nothing. It is only Because there is DEmand for dollars that have any value at all.
It wouldnt take much competition to outstrip that demand.
I know, I am asking a lot. I am asking people to step back, mentally, to a place where its hard to get to, a place where we become observers & not participants. Only from that vantage point can we look at things from an unbiased, scientific, unemotional point of view.

It took a lot of reading & listening to presentations for me to be able to understand currency, & money & the differences & to grasp how a dollar comes into existence & what it means when debts get paid ( the currency supply is decreased).

I really wish someone here would read Creature from Jekyll Island, someone who supports the Fed, preferably someone who is a little leaning to the left. If just One of you guys would take it upon yourselves to read that, I believe we could achieve something here. I think we could see an awakening, an understanding of what has been done to us. While its only guys like me, guys who lean right, who actually have taken the time & expended the effort to unwrap our minds from what we were taught by the system & wrap our minds around what the system is really doing, there remains division.

Henry Ford said it was a good thing the people didnt know how the financial system worked, cuz if they did, there would be a revolution.

He was right, & I DO know how it works & if you guys want to live in a perpetually decreasing value of a dollar society, thats what youll have, for as long as we use a Private central bank,,
It has not & will not matter Which party is in office, while every dollar created comes with a debt attached, it will not work to the benefit Of the People, but the bankers who own the fed,.& War only spends more $$ faster,, they finance both sides,

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by Starlifter on 10/20/12 at 18:06:39

JOG, I worry about you...I mean really. Over the years I have respected and agreed with many of your premises...but lately you seem to be getting alarmingly paranoid over every kind of crackpot conspiracy theory out there. You can't live in this kind of fear. Even if it's all true you can't do anything about it. So relax and live out your life in whatever comfort and security you can achieve.

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/12 at 18:09:18

So,, what is it youre saying? The Fed is owned by our government?

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by Starlifter on 10/20/12 at 18:47:42

I'm saying relax my friend, let it go...an ant cant stop a freight train.

Title: Re: Its the BUBS!,, Uhh,, Its the DEMS!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/12 at 20:18:06

Nope, not gonna relax. An ant, alone cant, but if that one ant can get the others to pay attention,, we can take the tracks right out from under that train