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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Savage leans over too far when on kick stand /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1350414765 Message started by Big John on 10/16/12 at 12:12:45 |
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Title: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Big John on 10/16/12 at 12:12:45 Hi all My 03 leans over way too far when on kickstand. It looks like the stand arm has a slight curve in it. I would like to straighten it out (this would make it lean over less far) but I don't know if I can safely heat it up enough to bend it back to straight. Does anyone know if the stand can be safely straightened? :-? Thanks in advance John |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/12 at 12:19:05 It'd be much easier to offer an opinion if we had a picture. |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Gyrobob on 10/16/12 at 12:25:10 Yes it can. It is plain old mild steel. If you heat it enough to make it bend easily (red or orange), though, the chrome will be damaged. Pics would help a lot to see if your only problem is a bent prop. Suzuki calls the sidestand a prop. Did you inspect where it bolts on to the bike,.. where it pivots on what Suzuki calls the prop bolt? All that looks ok? (the prop bolt, the hole in the prop, the holes in the frame bracket) I bought a Yamaga half a century ago that someone modified. One of the "modifications" was to replace the "prop bolt" with one that was skinnier than stock,.. which made the prop flop around and let the bike lean too far over when parked. The part number changed for 2003 so I don't know what diff that makes. One thing you could do is take the prop off, go to a dealer that might have one in stock and compare the two to make sure your situation is only that the prop is bent. |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Gyrobob on 10/16/12 at 12:27:38 4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
Great minds think alike, eh? |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Serowbot on 10/16/12 at 12:28:52 Puck'it, man... :-?... http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/tm002.jpg |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by brucey on 10/16/12 at 14:27:42 Hey Scrow, what kind of helmet do you have there? |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/12 at 14:49:59 5668637E737E73110 wrote:
Great minds think alike, eh?[/quote] Or maybe just equally befuddled & stalling for time hoping to come up with a good answer for the guy,, Thats where I was,, cant speak for you,, Good point someone made about makin sure the bolts are correct & tight, Heat isnt required to bend it, IF its bent, Im sure it wasnt heated. How it got bent is a decent ?? ,, Somebody big sitting on it parked, maybe? If its actually bent in the leg part, Itll fix, but if its something in the hinge area, it mite be a bit of an ordeal & Rowboats Puck It answer mite just be the best solution. Now, I really would like a pic and if you could go to the bike & stand it up off the stand & wiggle it in & out & see if theres a stupid amount of slack in it that way. The pic needs to be from the front or rear while its leaning on it & one looking down at it, while its up, so we can see the swingarm, sidestand together so we can compare the gap of yours to ours,, |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/12 at 15:23:24 when I had it towed, the driver over tightened the strap and bent the kickstand. straightened out very easily and no problems since. |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by tizzyfit on 10/16/12 at 16:58:29 4C5A4D50485D504B3F0 wrote:
How did you attach the puck to the kick-stand??? |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Big John on 10/16/12 at 17:18:45 Thanks for the great responses, guys. I will take some pics tomorrow and post them. The mount for the prop is in good shape and tight. I will probably puck it as well as straighten it. |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Serowbot on 10/16/12 at 18:21:01 49544747445B54493D0 wrote:
I started out with a clamp,.. but it wiggled,.. so I added a screw... Definitely could have done a better job... someday... :-?... Brucey,... the helmet's just a cheapy HJC FF... works though... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/12 at 18:27:04 Nothin wrong with HJC. I used one to bend in a cab corner on a little pickup. Needed 2 stitches in my lip where the jaw bar folded in a little.. catch held. Still worked even. Of course I bought a new one anyway., Modular. I like being able to rasie it up & get fresh air /talk to people,, |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Big John on 10/17/12 at 20:22:38 Here are some pics of my bent prop. |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Big John on 10/17/12 at 20:23:46 another |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Big John on 10/17/12 at 20:25:20 more |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/17/12 at 21:57:55 YOu need 2 hammers & a friend. A 3 pounder behind the stem & a 1 pounder to spank it with. If thats enough to move it, & I suspect it would be, if not, a 4 pounder behind & maybe a 2 pounder in front,, thats the thing with bendin stuff,, sometimes ya need a bigger hammah,, anyway,, put the heavy hammer up high on the back side, looks like about where the spring hooks on is where it starts, with the bike leaned away & the big hammer behind the stem, hit it below where the big hammer is. Dont try to get it all in one whack,,just spank it a couple o quick taps & look at it & SEE iF ITS MOVING, WHERE ITS MOVING & HOW MUCH. Ooop[s Caplox, sorry,.Anyway, the distance between the big hammer position in back & where the smaller hammer lands in front gives you a "fulcrum" but, if you step too far, youll need a heavier hammer in the back, Youll feel it when you get the right distance, youll feel the big hammer "buck" when you hit it with the one pounder. Walk your way down, its tapered, so, the hammer smacks will get lighter. I doubt youll need to mess with the angle of the foot if you get the stem right. Id really rather not see ya smack that part.. |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by verslagen1 on 10/18/12 at 11:59:31 http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/010.JPG Yep, that's the way mine looked. get a big cresant wrench, grip the pad and bend away. I was surprised how easy it was. Of course an 18" cresant wrench didn't hurt. |
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Title: Re: Savage leans over too far when on kick stand Post by Big John on 10/18/12 at 21:28:47 Thanks again for the help! I used my 8 pound hammer as a backup and my 2 lb hammer to bend it back straight. Also found a hard rubber puck and attached it to the pad with a machine screw. The bike stands up much straighter now and I am no longer worried it might fall over. Now I am trying to build a center stand for it. |
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