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Message started by thumperclone on 10/11/12 at 21:37:30

Title: new oil war
Post by thumperclone on 10/11/12 at 21:37:30

heard a radio commerical some race driver uses recycled oil

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Serowbot on 10/11/12 at 22:07:03

Racers will use turnip juice, if you sponsor them... :-?...

... but,.. since I'm a recycle/repurpose fan.... cool!... :)...

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Boofer on 10/11/12 at 22:08:26

In the late 60s we used a RE REFINED oil. I think that's what they called it. Anyway it was named Thrift and came in a metal can. So did all the others. It was around 75 cents a quart. I only used it when I was down a quart or in lawnmowers. Do you know if his is re refined, filtered, or just right out of the crankcase? I'm going to look up Thrift and see if it is still available.

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by J C Stokes on 10/12/12 at 01:44:12

Re Refined oil was also quite popular in New Zealand Boofer, some large bus fleets used it exclusively as did many private motorists. I'm not sure about motor cyclists, but it would have probably served the 1950's and early 'sixties British bikes ok. It was avadable in a sereis of mono grades and BP made a multigrade in the éighties. All our used recovered oil is now burnt in an oil fired power station.

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Cavi Mike on 10/12/12 at 02:13:56

I've read that the base-stock in motor oil doesn't actually ever go bad. Ever. It just needs to be filtered of the impurities and have the additives put back in and it's as good as new. Of course the company refining it actually has to have good equipment and use the right processes.

http://www.recycleoil.org/more.html

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Midnightrider on 10/12/12 at 02:50:45

Recycled refined Klotz is the best!

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Drifter on 10/12/12 at 04:44:33

I think pennzoil, rotella and Mobile 1 are all recycled oil... :)

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/12 at 06:00:21

What about "sheering of the molecular long chains" ? Not that Ive seen it, but I Can watch my oil consumption on the 650 change. New Rotella 15/40 & I can ride a while w/o worry. Once I see I have to add, it will be slightly fewer miles till I need to add again, & on that way until IM seeing enough use to make me uncomfortable, usually I change oil at about 2,500 miles, not because I care what the odometer says, but because the oil use rate is sufficient to make me wonder about the physical properties of the oil.Has the constant crushing between gears changed the oil's structure? Have long chain molecules been broken?

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Serowbot on 10/12/12 at 10:12:36

312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 wrote:

What about "sheering of the molecular long chains" ?

Tiny nanobots are trained to scotch tape the molecules back together...
;)...

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Charon on 10/12/12 at 11:27:00

I think the "long molecular chains" are the Viscosity Index Improver (VII) and not part of the base stock.

One of our local museums (Stuhr Museum of the Prairie Pioneer) in Grand Island, NE, used to have an operating steam train. They went to the local service stations and acquired used motor oil to fire the boiler. There are varied stories about what happened, but the working locomotive ended up in Alaska where it is still in use, and the Museum ended up with a stationary display. All the stories agree on one thing - goodly sums of money were involved.

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Oldfeller on 10/12/12 at 16:10:10

Racers will certainly tout your turnip juice and put your logo on the car itself, but what goes in the sump is under the control of the crew chief and he is more interested in winning the race and having the engine hold together for more than just one race ....

(plus he controls what "race additives" go into the sump, not you -- read the contract you signed. One teaspoon of your turnip juice plus 99.99% of "race additives" are perfectly legal by contract)

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by 07s40scotty on 10/12/12 at 18:05:56

I have about 90 gallons or so of used motor oil behind my garage waiting for my sorry azz to bring it to be recycled... idk if i'd trust refined in my bike tho.

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Serowbot on 10/12/12 at 18:46:53

Isn't this an "old oil" war?... :-?...

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Oldfeller on 10/12/12 at 19:46:32

All real oil wars had something serious in contention and took place in RSD -- this seems to be a gentle "rememberance of past oil wars" ....

not the real thing. Sorta like Veterans Day.

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/12 at 20:03:30

Used oil,, many uses for that stuff,,Ive toyed with the OIl Fired heater idea for the shop, but that takes SO much oil,, I do use it when Im trying to get a fire going out back, a quart O diesel to get things going & a few splashes of oil & soon theres a Big Blaze,

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Savage_Rob on 10/12/12 at 21:50:54

There's a local garage chain here that I use for stuff I don't have the equipment or expertise for. I know they also offer oil service with regular dino juice, synthetic blend and full synthetic (all Valvoline). A couple of years ago they started offering ”green” (recycled) oil too. It's my understanding that it is as posited above, highly filtered and refined and then has the additives replenished.

Valvoline NextGen (http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/conventional-motor-oil/124)

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by arteacher on 10/13/12 at 07:21:52

57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:

During the war my dad was an aircraft electrician with a Lancaster squadron in England. England being England, they were always cold and damp in the Quonset huts. My dad made a tank that fit around the stove pipe on the coal burning stove in the hut and used a spigot to drip used aircraft motor oil onto some oven bricks in the stove.
He could get the stove red hot.

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by ToesNose on 10/14/12 at 04:02:51

ArtTeacher was that during WW2 or during the OilWars? ;D

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Paraquat on 10/14/12 at 08:14:33

5E7D7577747D7D7463110 wrote:

All real oil wars had something serious in contention and took place in RSD -- this seems to be a gentle "rememberance of past oil wars" ....

not the real thing. Sorta like Veterans Day.

Made me chuckle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh0G0HdujFs
Drip furnace.

--Steve

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by WD on 10/14/12 at 10:30:27

I use recycled oil in my farm truck... 1969 Dodge D100 with a 318. Works great, change the oil in the bikes, Subaru or Ranger, use it to top off the Dodge. Which drips it on the weeds in the farm roads. And kills them. Win Win, save money on oil for the full sized truck, don't have to buy round-up!

;D

Title: Re: new oil war
Post by Boofer on 10/14/12 at 23:01:05

6B465C5D4647405D4C290 wrote:

I should have been clear. My friends and I didn't use it in our motorcycles. We went big and used straight 30w Valvoline in our motorcycles. :)