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Message started by Pine on 10/11/12 at 08:26:08

Title: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Pine on 10/11/12 at 08:26:08

So I was looking at my yahoo email and they have links to local news... which lead me to a news article on the local VICE hitting various Adult strip clubs... No real news there.. but I flipped thorugh the photos of dancer and owners listing thier crimes.

Generally it was things like, "showing genatals", improper physical contact... with some sad faced girl. But then there was this.. Some old geeezers face with his crime? "verbal harrassment".

Ok wait... what? who did he harrass.. Vice?? I can only assume. I also assume he was arrested as a form of harrassment so they throw his photo up and thus be a warning to all potential patrons. All in all the "charges" looked very lame and makes the whole story out to what it really is... city hall terrorizing the strip clubs to appease the churches and rally a few votes. I dont have a dog in that hunt ( either way)... but arresting patrons on crappy charges... pisses me off.  

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Paraquat on 10/11/12 at 11:11:48

Take your top off!


--Steve

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by gdrseeker on 10/11/12 at 12:21:46

I sure am glad I live in Nevada.  Almost everything here is legal.  HAHA

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Midnightrider on 10/11/12 at 12:24:07

I'm just quoting the law but your rights end when they infringe on another persons rights. Its not freedom of speech for me to call you an a$$hole to your face, its harassment. Cursing someone to their face is harrasment and thats the way the law should read. What if we were allowed to say anything to anyone we wanted to, it would be a crude violent world.

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Savage_Rob on 10/11/12 at 14:01:01


41656862656B64787E6568697E0C0 wrote:
I'm just quoting the law but your rights end when they infringe on another persons rights. Its not freedom of speech for me to call you an a$$hole to your face, its harassment. Cursing someone to their face is harrasment and thats the way the law should read. What if we were allowed to say anything to anyone we wanted to, it would be a crude violent world.


It's a crude, violent world already.

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Serowbot on 10/11/12 at 14:11:29

I believe the geezer would have been verbally harassing one of the ladies...

That's not okay...  :-?...

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Midnightrider on 10/11/12 at 15:00:15


093B2C3B3D3F050835385A0 wrote:
[quote author=41656862656B64787E6568697E0C0 link=1349969168/0#3 date=1349983447]I'm just quoting the law but your rights end when they infringe on another persons rights. Its not freedom of speech for me to call you an a$$hole to your face, its harassment. Cursing someone to their face is harrasment and thats the way the law should read. What if we were allowed to say anything to anyone we wanted to, it would be a crude violent world.


It's a crude, violent world already.[/quote]
And its gonna get a lot worse!

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by gdrseeker on 10/11/12 at 15:54:59

In Nevada there is no such law I can call you an a$$hole to your face all I want as long as I don’t threaten you or challenge you to a fight etc.   

NRS 200.571  Harassment: Definition; penalties.
    1.  A person is guilty of harassment if:
    (a) Without lawful authority, the person knowingly threatens:
          (1) To cause bodily injury in the future to the person threatened or to any other person;
          (2) To cause physical damage to the property of another person;
          (3) To subject the person threatened or any other person to physical confinement or restraint; or
          (4) To do any act which is intended to substantially harm the person threatened or any other person with respect to his or her physical or mental health or safety; and
    (b) The person by words or conduct places the person receiving the threat in reasonable fear that the threat will be carried out.
    2.  Except where the provisions of subsection 2 or 3 of NRS 200.575 are applicable, a person who is guilty of harassment:
    (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
    (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.
    3.  The penalties provided in this section do not preclude the victim from seeking any other legal remedy available.
    (Added to NRS by 1989, 897; A 1993, 510; 2001, 2785)

NRS 200.450  Challenges to fight; penalties.

    1.  If a person, upon previous concert and agreement, fights with any other person or gives, sends or authorizes any other person to give or send a challenge verbally or in writing to fight any other person, the person giving, sending or accepting the challenge to fight any other person shall be punished:
    (a) If the fight does not involve the use of a deadly weapon, for a gross misdemeanor; or
    (b) If the fight involves the use of a deadly weapon, for a category B felony by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, and may be further punished by a fine of not more than $5,000.
    2.  A person who acts for another in giving, sending, or accepting, either verbally or in writing, a challenge to fight any other person shall be punished:
    (a) If the fight does not involve the use of a deadly weapon, for a gross misdemeanor; or
    (b) If the fight involves the use of a deadly weapon, for a category B felony by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, and may be further punished by a fine of not more than $5,000.
    3.  Should death ensue to a person in such a fight, or should a person die from any injuries received in such a fight, the person causing or having any agency in causing the death, either by fighting or by giving or sending for himself or herself or for any other person, or in receiving for himself or herself or for any other person, the challenge to fight, is guilty of murder in the first degree which is a category A felony and shall be punished as provided in subsection 4 of NRS 200.030.

    [1911 C&P § 161; RL § 6426; NCL § 10108]—(NRS A 1967, 472; 1977, 884; 1979, 1426; 1995, 1189; 1999, 2)




Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Midnightrider on 10/11/12 at 16:23:08

You can call me an a$$hole to my face anytime you wont to, you just wont be the first.

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by thumperclone on 10/11/12 at 21:35:57

a florida judge outlawed "$hit happens" bumper stickers cause they were in "poor taste"

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Drifter on 10/12/12 at 04:58:26

Our system is not perfect, it is run by humans most of whom have an agenda to push...usually religion....their religion of course..... >:(

Title: Re: what happend to freedom of speech?
Post by Paraquat on 10/12/12 at 06:15:24


3F3C2A2B3D3D333D2A580 wrote:
NRS 200.571  Harassment: Definition; penalties.
    1.  A person is guilty of harassment if:
    (a) Without lawful authority, the person knowingly threatens:
          (1) To cause bodily injury in the future to the person threatened or to any other person;
          (2) To cause physical damage to the property of another person;
          (3) To subject the person threatened or any other person to physical confinement or restraint; or
          (4) To do any act which is intended to substantially harm the person threatened or any other person with respect to his or her physical or mental health or safety; and
    (b) The person by words or conduct places the person receiving the threat in reasonable fear that the threat will be carried out.
    2.  Except where the provisions of subsection 2 or 3 of NRS 200.575 are applicable, a person who is guilty of harassment:
    (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
    (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.
    3.  The penalties provided in this section do not preclude the victim from seeking any other legal remedy available.
    (Added to NRS by 1989, 897; A 1993, 510; 2001, 2785)


"Baby, I would wreck you."


--Steve

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