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Title: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by TROX on 10/09/12 at 04:40:08 Just last night while riding my bike start stalling out like it was not getting gas, so I opened the choke and then it ran fine. I already have a raptor petcock that I will be installing this weekend, but I just wanted to know if it is bad to ride with the choke out for the mean time ? |
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Title: Re: Quick Question Post by Routy on 10/09/12 at 05:27:35 If it runs smoothly it can't hurt much. If it was running too rich, it could suffer long term problems from "cyl washdown" |
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Title: Re: Quick Question Post by Gyrobob on 10/09/12 at 06:36:41 You'd get more responses in your thread if you'd put something meaningful in the "Subject" "Quick question" has nothing in it that would interest anybody. You might consider something like, "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" A lot more folks will want to jump on a subject like that. You can change the subject anytime you want. BTW, this bike does not have choke. It has a mixture enrichment device that richens the mixture only at idle and very small throttle openings. -- With an old-style choke, the motor could run very rich at all throttle settings, and could be harmful from the black smoke and raw gas on the cylinder walls. -- With a mixture enrichment system, the rich mixture happens only at such small throttle openings that once you get going fast enough to need the throttle open more than, say, 1/8 throttle, the mixture enrichment circuits don't do anything anymore,.. much like the idle circuit. |
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Title: Re: Quick Question Post by Pine on 10/09/12 at 07:11:39 506E6578757875170 wrote:
OK 1) I seriosly did not know this ... and I have rebuilt many car carbs.. 2) thats cool as heck... its NOT a choke... who would have thunk??? 3) it does figure.. cause really it did not behave like a choke... |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by WD on 10/09/12 at 07:54:20 Once I started having to ride with it 1 click out, I knew it time to go up on the jet sizes. Or at least clean them out really well, modern gas leaves a lot of debris in the float bowl and internal passages. The pilot on mine was almost completely plugged off. Try a little bit of fuel system cleaner or a couple caps of ATF (high detergent level like Dex3 or newer) in your next full tank. If you still need the choke out after that consider cleaning or replacing your pilot jet (it's cheap). One of the quirks of the model, it lets you know when something requires attention. |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by Serowbot on 10/09/12 at 09:38:06 Recheck the cap that you put on the carb's vacuum tap...(done during Raptor conversion)... If it starts leaking,.. you will get a lean condition... this is why, I recommend blocking it with more than just a rubber cap (rubber rots)... ;)... |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by Gyrobob on 10/09/12 at 09:40:17 He hasn't done the Raptor yet. |
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Title: Re: Quick Question Post by Cavi Mike on 10/09/12 at 10:25:48 122C273A373A37550 wrote:
Ain't that the truth. I've been thinking that with just about every thread on this forum. |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by Serowbot on 10/09/12 at 10:34:41 625C574A474A47250 wrote:
Where the H, is my head at?... :-/... |
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Title: Re: Quick Question Post by verslagen1 on 10/09/12 at 11:27:28 414E544F535546444C4255270 wrote:
+1 |
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Title: Re: Quick Question Post by MiCTLaN on 10/09/12 at 12:50:59 6D5358454845482A0 wrote:
I had no idea... so it's more or less safe to leave it out at the first click if it idles better there, rather than fix whatever issue is causing it to not idle well to begin with? |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by TROX on 10/09/12 at 13:19:57 Thank you for all the help. I already have a re-jetting kit from Lancer to install due to me changing my pipe to the BCB drag pipe. I did that a while back and it has been running fine, but I guess I need to go ahead and pull the carb and re-jet while changing the petcock and just get it all out of the way. Thanks again fellas. |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by chad levert on 10/09/12 at 13:49:59 no need for raptor petcock, all you need is some golf tees... plug the line on the carb and vacuum line on the petcock and run it on prime, i did this and have had no problems |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by EJID on 10/09/12 at 14:00:55 6B68726E746E666966746671666062070 wrote:
One problem with only doing that is, you do not have any reserve capacity in your gas tank, when it's empty, it's empty :( |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by Oldfeller on 10/09/12 at 17:27:19 66657F6379636B646B796B7C6B6D6F0A0 wrote:
Chad, you are running around without a reserve gas capacity -- which you will discover by running completely out of gas in traffic. Raptors cost $16 and they have a 20 mile reserve built into them. So yes, there is a need for a raptor, even for you. |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by stewmills on 10/09/12 at 19:32:16 Got mine as a barn find and it wouldn't get-up-n-go. It ran a hell of a lot better on 1 click choke so I rode mine on 1 click for about 200 miles until it was rejetted. Afterwards, it ran quite well on no choke as it should other than my needing to dial in the other settings to get it running optimum on the low end and mid-range/cruising (still tinkering a little)... |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by Gyrobob on 10/10/12 at 06:29:14 While you have the carb apart, do a sterile rebuild,.. and then install a really good paper-element fuel filter. -- Unless you have a zillion miles on it, these carbs are like new after a replacement of all the soft stuff, and a good filter will keep them that way -- It'll run smoother. -- It'll be more reliable. -- It'll keep the carb from being one of the possible problem areas when troubleshooting other issues in the future. |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by Digger on 10/17/12 at 20:07:20 383B213D273D353A35273522353331540 wrote:
I ran mine like this for a few years, but I reasoned that, if the OEM petcock was defective (as mine was), was there an additional failure mode that would allow the petcock to flow gas at all settings? If so, that would not be good. Perhaps one of the petcock gurus could chime in here. So, I just gave up and slapped a Raptor on there and have never looked back.... |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by misterbbq on 10/18/12 at 02:36:39 tank is a lot easier to remove with the raptor as well. and i mean a LOT easier. |
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Title: Re: "Is it bad to ride with choke out?" Post by ToesNose on 10/18/12 at 02:52:08 3632282F3E2939392A5B0 wrote:
I'd say it's ALOT easier to remove with the Raptor, much more clearance compaired to the stock one which is kinda shoe horned on there. |
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