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Title: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/06/12 at 17:24:41 The battery is fully charged, the clutch and side stand cut outs seem to be working but all I am getting is a rapid clicking sound from under the seat... Please help! |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Serowbot on 10/06/12 at 17:30:25 Clicking, is a lack of juice... if the battery is good (good),.. check connections... .. at battery, ground strap, relay, and starter... (PS, a battery can show good at rest, and not under a load)... ;)... |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/06/12 at 17:31:23 I also put on the raptor petcock and gas made its way into the air box... |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Serowbot on 10/06/12 at 17:36:07 Well,.. now you have two problems... Raptors don't cause clicking... but it sounds like yer' float is stuck... tap the floatbowl with the handle a screwdriver... if that don't fix it,.. Yer' goin' in... to fix the stuck float... Then,,, back to the battery... and connections... |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/06/12 at 17:54:33 Connections are tight, battery voltage at 12.22... |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/06/12 at 18:21:07 ...turn the key and voltage dropped to just over 11 and hitting the starter drops it to 4. I think I will charge the battery again >:( |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Digger on 10/06/12 at 19:06:41 4C4750474C53484D4F43260 wrote:
I would not be surprised if you find out that your battery is toast. How old is it? |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/06/12 at 20:50:00 Not sure, came with the bike...at least a year, that's when the PO bought it |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/12 at 21:37:20 Connections on the battery arent the only ones,, check the ground on the motor. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/07/12 at 01:32:50 That was the first ground I checked and it was tight |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/12 at 06:50:43 IDK the age of it, or condition, or, how much mechanic blood you have, so, dont be offended,, Clean & tight is the correct recipe, If youve done what you think make sense & its not working, take the battery out & have it checked, Or, jump it straight to the starter, Make Sure that thing is in Neutral, or it will walk off the stand. Ohhh, yea, you Can pull the plug, See if its got the guts to spin it W/o compression in the picture. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Charon on 10/07/12 at 07:21:12 If the voltage dropped to 4 volts when you tried the starter, your wiring connections are probably good. But your battery isn't. Take it out, add water if needed, and charge it at no more than 2 amps overnight. Better, take it to Autozone or the like and have it checked. Most likely you would be better off to just buy a new one. If you do, charge it before you install it. Do not count on it being charged off the shelf. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Dave on 10/08/12 at 12:46:47 745F56455859370 wrote:
When I bought my battery at the dealer - it came with the acid in a bottle and you had to add it......then put it on a 1.5 amp or less charger overnight. The first one only lasted a month then started acting up like the OP battery.....just not enough juice. I took the battery back and got a new one under warranty and it has worked fine for several months. For some reason I just got a bad one the first time. I believe the OP needs a new battery...... |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/08/12 at 22:34:42 It's bad. Won't hold a charge.. I'm going to see if I can find a AGM battery locally next paycheck |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by HondaLavis on 10/08/12 at 22:39:32 Do you plan on doing the mini battery mod, or just getting a same spec AGM and keeping it in the stock box? |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by chad levert on 10/09/12 at 13:55:11 clicking sound? sounds like a bad solenoid |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Charon on 10/09/12 at 19:44:56 The "clicking" does indeed come from the solenoid, but not because it is bad. When the start button is pressed, power is supplied (after a short delay from the decomp system) to the starter solenoid (which is really a relay switch). This "clicks" as it pulls in to supply power to the starter. The weak battery cannot deliver enough current and its voltage drops. The low voltage causes the solenoid to drop out, which you hear as another click. Now the starter is disconnected, the battery voltage rises, and the solenoid clicks again. The cycle repeats until you give up, or the battery does. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/12 at 19:46:01 6B40495A4746280 wrote:
Keee Rekkt.. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/10/12 at 03:40:16 @HondaLavis, I'm gonna go with the spec AGM and keep the box...for now anyway |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Dave on 10/10/12 at 09:46:13 4A555354494E7F4F7F47555912200 wrote:
Keee Rekkt.. [/quote] +1......Everything the OP has posted looks like the battery is the culprit and it is time for a new battery. If you want to test something, you could attach the existing battery to a good battery as a jumper and see if the bike starts and runs normally. Jumping to the starter won't tell you if the solenoid and safety switches are working - so you would have to connect to the existing battery with some decent sized wires.....normal jumper cables are too big to get attached to the battery and wires. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/14/12 at 03:45:17 New AGM battery in and now I get a single click.. I'm going to test to see if the starter is working then the solenoid after I get home from work... Thanks for the valuable info!!! |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/12 at 06:43:04 IDK if you are supposed to charge them before use. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by HondaLavis on 10/14/12 at 10:57:43 Abosrbed Glass Mat batteries come pre-charged. It wouldn't hurt anything to throw it on a charger, but one of the major advantages of an AGM is that it retains it's charges much better than traditional lead-acid batteries. Conduct a voltage check to be thorough. Your starter and solenoid worked before; that would leave the battery as the biggest suspect - despite it being new - since it was the most recent change. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by Charon on 10/14/12 at 16:48:54 You should ALWAYS charge a new battery before you install it. AGM batteries may hold a charge longer, but they are still lead-acid batteries and you should charge them before you install them. Some claim that initial charge is the most important charge the battery ever gets, and claim that without it the battery will never fully charge, and will not last as long. AGM and any other pre-charged batteries are NOT put on a charger and carefully watched before they are shipped. They are assembled with the chemicals of a fairly-fully charged battery and shipped out. Odds are they are no more than 3/4 charged when they leave the assembly plant. The manufacturers figure all the new battery has to do is start whatever vehicle in which it is installed, and the vehicle's charging system will take care of the rest. AGM batteries are sold as "pre-charged," but all other lead-acid batteries are also pre-charged. When you buy an inexpensive flooded-cell battery, and add the acid, the battery will have at least a half-charge, and likely more. That's because it was assembled with the proper chemicals on its plates to have an initial charge. |
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Title: Re: another "no start" thread... Post by javajunkie on 10/21/12 at 20:03:58 Charged the new battery, voltage of 12.78... Put it back in the bike and still get the same click. Pulled the starter to test it, I just ran wires from the battery to the starter...the pos wire started to glow, I don't know if that has anything to do with it... I am going to pull the side cover back off just to see if anything is binding up |
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