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Message started by Midnightrider on 10/03/12 at 22:54:53

Title: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Midnightrider on 10/03/12 at 22:54:53

Did any of your animals or pets get cancer when you were growing up? None of mine ever did and now all my animals end up with cancer. Just spent over $3000 on two dogs. Pet cancer was virtually unheard of in my youth. Whats happened?

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/03/12 at 23:02:05

GMO crap in the dog food,, My Mini Doxy sneezes her head off if I feed her a dry food, the chihuahua loses his hair & itches if he gets too much,, the other dog just eats,, but he is young yet,, give him time,,

Its startin to look like anything with any grain in it will not be fit for man or beast,, the Great Culling is upon us. & remember! Drink your fluoridated water & Take those flu shots! Get your children vaccinated! Pay no attention to the autism numbers,, just do it,, because the government loves you.. Thats wht the FDA allows monsatan to put toxic crap in your food,, because they love you..

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Midnightrider on 10/04/12 at 00:16:39

Something has sure happened. I took my animals to the vet when they were sick when I was a kid, a lot of people didnt back then. He usually charged me $5. The vet was a friend of the my family. When I was sick he would give me penecillin or whatever I needed LOL. None of my animals ever had cancer. JOG might be on to something. Another thing to consider is a lot of pet food has food coloring in it which is a known carcinogen.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by srinath on 10/04/12 at 05:15:29

I think it is also the environmental pollutants ...
Autism was unheard of in my youth, and even though it was in an inherently more polluted country, and mental retardation was very uncommon, and when it was, it was mostly in very rich families.

I have believed that autism was due to vaccines. In india only rich people got their kids vaccinated, the non rich just got sick, and treated and recovered mostly with minimal doctor intervention.

Now as per CDC, yea correlation, not causation ... but there is many many more, since 91 sky rocketing rates of autism almost paralleling the increase in vaccine requirements, now autism is close to 1 in 75. If that has been the same across the board, where are all the autistic 40 and 50 year olds.

Anyway I suspect it is a overall increase in enviro toxins as well as gmo.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/12 at 05:43:41

40 & 50 years ago, they didnt just keep pumping them in us,

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by srinath on 10/04/12 at 06:29:17

36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:

40 & 50 years ago, they didnt just keep pumping them in us,

Y'know seriously when we aren't paying for things directly, and we dont even know what and how much we are paying for some shetiete I dont think any bloody thing is gonna improve.

Lets try this ... gas costs $35 a gal. Guess what, I'm riding a bicycle to the bus and riding it to work. Its $4 a day on the bus.
Oh, you want to raise that to 50, no problem, bicycle all the way ... or get a battery powered bicycle cos I do have to run 15 miles.

I dont know why but americans are rather grossed out very very easily ... including people who eat yogurt throw it away when you tell them it has bacteria in it. Get a disease dammit, most of the time you'll get a permanent immunity and get OK. Get something that is more serious, there you need a doctor, which we have, and the doctor when you pay for what you're getting directly will force you to get involved.

Better yet, a parent will look at a child with a cough and know its the allergies and it will pass when it rains a bit, or if its pneumonia. Parents nowadays have no clue. Doctors want it that way, and the whole medical insurance system makes it happen.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/12 at 09:42:44

Thimerosol, adjuvants, & have you studied what these vaccines have in them besides? Its horrific. Can we equate the vaccines of today with the ones we took? I dont know, but I do know that a child today takes Massive number compared to what we took,, & autism is skyrocketing,, The Amish, OTOH,, dont have that problem,, & they dont vaccinate, & they arent DYING from these diseases, either,,

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by WD on 10/04/12 at 13:51:00

And the vaccines wear out. You "old" guys with smallpox vaccination scars do know the thing quit working a couple decades ago...right? When I got mine it was included with whatever else came on the purple sugar cube fed to kindergarten students in 1977...

Or how about the boot camp and pre-deployment vaccines where everyone gets sick for the next 3 weeks... we had 2 girls in our battalion get medical discharges within a month of pre-deployment shots.

Lisa wanted to get her 86, soon to be 87, year old father a flu shot this year. He said he'd prefer to catch it the old fashioned way rather than have Walgreen's inject him with it...

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by arteacher on 10/04/12 at 16:35:26

I had to get a smallpox vaccination to go to college. It came very close to killing me. I was very lucky that my girlfriend's dad was a nurse, and packed me in ice as I convulsed with a very high fever, until the ambulance came. I was in the hospital for 10 days.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/12 at 16:41:50

They love you...

ETA

The vaccine manufacturers

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Paraquat on 10/04/12 at 18:02:05

272C2C252926273D3C480 wrote:

That is odd. When I transferred from FL to CT I had to get immunized before I could attend school. And show documentation for college. Keeping my in the system or combating my education with their toxins?

--Steve

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by stewmills on 10/04/12 at 22:28:34

I'm not 50, but I think it is all a profit center. Back then people had no issue putting an animal down and if necessary, ringing it's neck with their bare hands.

Now, we are so politically correct and animal friendly that they go to the trouble of diagnosing it (plus modern medicine makes it easier to do so) because they know they can profit from it.

Lastly, sorry for your pets sickness and I am not making light of it...I used to have 4 house dogs and they were my special little peeps.
:)

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Retread on 10/05/12 at 07:08:25

I'm sure our enviroment has much to do with all of the cancers out there today, including pets.. I lost three cats in a matter of five years to what the Vet said was Kitty Leukemia, and one older dog had tumors removed a couple times.. I have researched pet foods and only feed the best, but they do get table tidbits from time to time.. I think back when I was a child Vets didn't test for cancers, just said your dog is failing, and then followed it up with euthanization..

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Midnightrider on 10/05/12 at 08:40:40

Unless one of my dogs got run over they all lived into their teens. Never any cancerous knots or anything remotely to do with cancer. Now every single animal I've had in the last 20 years has had it. Even had an Iguana that died from a tumor. I didnt know reptiles could get cancer.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/12 at 21:44:46

685F4E485F5B5E3A0 wrote:

If it has corn or wheat, or soy, it has gmo

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Trippah on 10/09/12 at 20:05:56

There were pet cancers back when I was growing up- Born in '46. Mental Retardation existed but was segregated into institutions (where I worked for 20 years). Many a Down's syndrome baby was dispatched by the Doctor, who informed the mother and father that unfortuneately the child was still born or aspyxiated by the umbllical cord. Autism seems to be getting bigger, but how many of those folks in DMR/DMH hands in the 50's were actually Aspergers or some other now named syndrome. Two of my four close friends died of Leukemia.

This is not to argue that modifcations of much of our food may indeed cause mutations in us...I don't know.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Midnightrider on 10/09/12 at 20:32:26

I'm sure there were isolated cases of pet cancer 50 years ago but now its the norm. Thats what bothers me.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/12 at 20:42:51

Always hunting the cure, not the causes. Mercury & other toxins in the vaccines. SV40 in polio vaccines, look it up. Bayer ships MILLIONS of KNOWN HIV laden doses of stuff to hemophiliacs. Eugenicists have gotten control of BIG pHARMA,. Understand what the Georgia Guidestones say, find out who paid for it, understand the elite TELL the masses what they are planning, so that when the masses Do Nothing, the Elite can pretend the masses deserve what they get.,The average schmuck is so convinced the goobs are their friend & anyone who says otherwise is a tin foil hat wearing idiot...& the masses play right into their hands.
\while vaccines Cause what they are supposed to prevent, children in 3rd world countries are paralyzed, & the masses are SO cnvinced they KNOW whats happening, they simply will NOT see the conflicting evidence, & those who do are laffed at,,, Amazing,

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Retread on 10/09/12 at 21:38:34

091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox

I could go on and on, but everything in this world is not a darn conspriracy JOG! You must take a look at long term effects of many of the things we are exposed to..

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/12 at 21:52:00

I have,, Vaccines are being used to wreck our fertility, Unless you understand what the eugenicists are up to, youll believe in a reality that doesnt exist,, & YOu will laugh at me,, & thats laughable,

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Retread on 10/09/12 at 22:07:26

I would think if they were trying to kill us all, they would get it done by now? So far we just keep multiplying... Unless the plot is to make the population more ignorant, then they are succeeding... But they didn't have to do much, look at all the Romney voters...

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/12 at 22:12:14

Fertility
Dropping
Life span
Dropping

Look it up,,

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Savage_Rob on 10/10/12 at 06:20:28

I certainly won't disagree that there are more contributing factors in both diet and environment but I think they're also better at detecting various things now. We had a cat with cancer in the 70's and I've known a couple of people who had dogs with stomach cancer back then too.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Midnightrider on 10/10/12 at 13:18:17

Retread said "Unless the plot is to make the population more ignorant, then they are succeeding" You cant kill off an intelligent population.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Retread on 10/10/12 at 15:55:00

Contrary to belief, nobody gets out of here alive...

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Midnightrider on 10/10/12 at 20:46:35

Tread the more you hang out, the more I like you.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Drifter on 10/11/12 at 05:43:13

I remember dogs with tumors and other things the difference being they were put down thousands of dollars was not spent trying to keep em alive for another 6 months. Lots of young puppies at the pound needing a good home.......think about it.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Retread on 10/11/12 at 07:18:21

Mutts are the best, overbreeding has made some popular breeds very prone to bad hips, sinuses, lungs, defects of all sorts.. I have found the WALK to be THE most important thing in a dogs health, in the wild a dog would walk to hunt, walk to find a mate, and walk to change territory. My pups and I walk two to five miles a day, good for them and me.. This Pug is thriteen years old , she is in great health, proper weight, only one eye, cat got her as a puppy... Their life expectency is low teens..

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8189/8077005804_48eb7205eb_z.jpg

Remember to always spay your dog and cats...

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by oldNslow on 10/11/12 at 07:54:32

My last dog - a mix breed - had to be put down at age 14 due to a nasal cancer that eroded the blood vessels and caused bleeding from his nose.

I don't recall any of the dogs we had while I was growing up having cancer but I don't think what they died from - unless it was accidental- was ever diagnosed or discussed.

I think commercial dog food might be at least partially to blame. All the dogs we had when I was a kid ate table scraps. The dog that died from cancer ate nothing but store bought dog food from the time he was a puppy.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Starlifter on 10/15/12 at 22:01:08

Now Monsanto is killing our animals too. My cat Byron has scabs, raw spots, crusts, and bumps all over him...vet says it's not cancer but the next thing to it...WTF does that mean?? $800.00 in vet bills and no improvement.

The entire environment, food, water, air, medicine, is all poisoned now.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/12 at 22:04:10

stop feeding cat food. buy meat & vegies & rice, cook the rice, feed the cat raw burger & veggies with cooked rice.

scratch that, thats what I do with the dogs whe they start showing signs of "Ive been fed crap".. Look up the BARF diet, bones & raw food, do what ya thyink best.

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Paraquat on 10/16/12 at 06:13:17

I was just reading about the BARF diet in the latest Bark magazine.

This scientist... Ian something I think...
He fed rats canned food and raw food that they would encounter in nature.
All the canned food rats had growths, cancer, etc.
0.0% of any diseases or inflictions in the raw food rats.

(BARF = Biologically Appropriate... raw food?)

--Steve

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Doug B on 10/16/12 at 06:34:07

Many valid points - from different perspectives I liked JOG's comments on feeding pets "human food" I've done this, as well processed food seems to affect them more quickly and some believe that many processed foods(especially in this country) have been altered(illegally) in a variety of ways such as : it will make you addicted to it(crave it chemically) make you fatter(slow down your metabolism chemically) and increase your appetite(again, with chemicals) >:(

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by Paraquat on 10/16/12 at 09:11:49

3C333A580 wrote:

it will make you addicted to it(crave it chemically)>:(

This might sound weird unless you've been there...

Diet Coke.
I knew a girl who was lazy. She would order food in all the time because she never wanted to get dressed or go out. But she would suit up and go to the corner store for a Diet Coke.

It was Diet Pepsi for me for a long time.

--Steve

Title: Re: A question for anyone over 50
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/16/12 at 10:34:42

aspartame & msg,, bad, BAD news,, & Loaded with high fructose corn syrup, toxic,,