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Message started by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 15:08:19

Title: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 15:08:19

The Right hand handle switch only has 6 wires;
1)Yellow/White
2)Yellow/Green
3)Orange
4)Orange/White
5)Grey
6)White

The Wiring loom has a 7 point plug with 7 wires;
1)Yellow/White
2)Yellow/Green
3)Orange
4)Orange/White
5)Grey
6)White/Black
7)Orange/Blue

1-5 match up nicely but what I am left with is 3 wires. Does the White wire from the switch connect to the White/Black on the loom? And what about the Orange/Blue?
I have brought a new 8 point connector but need help with these 3 wires please.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 15:09:40

Right Hand Handle Switch wires

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 15:11:02

Right Hand Switch

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 15:11:45

Wiring Loom

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 15:12:25

8 Pin Connector

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by rfw2003 on 10/03/12 at 15:24:39

What year is the switch housing from and what year is the harness from? I see 2 different options on wiring when it comes to the switch housings that have the hazards on them.

R.F.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by verslagen1 on 10/03/12 at 15:28:31

we don't have a light on/off switch, which is where your extra wires are for.

later models have a hazard light.

Please show us the resulting wiring, I might mod mine the same.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 19:14:46

The wiring loom is for a 1988 and the switch I brought a year ago. Cant be more accurate on dates sorry.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by Cavi Mike on 10/03/12 at 19:59:30

Adhere to the wiring for the main harness and adapt the switch to it, don't worry so much about colors matching. I've found that the colors of wires change at the plugs or even right inside the harness - and sometimes wires just end at the plug with nothing to mate to. That's what happens as revisions are made throughout production. Not much you can do.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/03/12 at 22:56:42

I've found that the colors of wires change at the plugs or even right inside the harness - and sometimes wires just end at the plug with nothing to mate to.

Fun, Innitt?

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by ToesNose on 10/04/12 at 04:37:00

LOL yea I noticed that when I did the Speedo/Tach up on the bars, had me scratching my head. Thought it might have been the crazy previous ownerat first, but it wasn't :D

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 11:04:51

Some of the first 5 wires must match cos when I married them up color for color the lights worked.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by Cavi Mike on 10/04/12 at 15:05:08

I didn't even notice you bought a switch from a different bike. Of course the wires aren't gonna match.

Seriously, stop trying to match colors because obviously it's not gonna happen. Just match functions. The headlights aren't controlled by the right switch anyways so if they're turning on/off with the right switch, something is clearly wrong.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by verslagen1 on 10/04/12 at 15:15:49

cavi, give the guy some slack, he's from the under world and laws vary. They may allow the lights to be off while riding.

Who knows, this functionallity may be built into the harnace. 8-)

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:52:41

look at the photo I posted the headlight switch in on the right side. the low and high beam is on the left. what are you guys on

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:55:01

and the switch is off a savage LS650. you guys drive on the other side of the road maybe your conrols are backward too

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:59:40

You know what stuff this im not posting anything else on this site. you all can jump in the lake. I do my best by asking questions and all i get is idiots abusing me. Im going to finish my project without sharing it with anyone. you yanks are a bunch of obnoxious baboons. good by

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by Cavi Mike on 10/04/12 at 21:50:31

Yup, we all know and we're just not telling you. What you didn't know is we're all from a secret wiring society. Unfortunately you've asked too many questions and we've said too much. We have sent out an assassin to dispatch of you, he should be there tomorrow at noon. Don't try top run, we will find you.

::)

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by ToesNose on 10/05/12 at 04:34:26

Sorry Mike I can't make it there by tomorow the plane got bumped and I have to wait till next weeks flight! ;D

@Paul please go back and read your other wiring post, RFW & Verslagen both gave partial aswers with questions that you didn't answer. Especially with a non stock swap all info is needed to try to help.

And just because there is good hearted bantering in between trying to help, please don't take it to heart ;)

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by rfw2003 on 10/05/12 at 09:20:09

Well if ya come back I'll give ya the info on what wire goes where on the 88' wiring harness now that I know that part of the equation. As for the switch itself, since we don't have one that has the headlight cut out here in the States that part I can't help with. I can help with parts of the wiring colors for it but some will be missing unless they use totally different colors. You may need to take apart the switch assembly itself to see which wire goes where so you can tell me the colors for each on the individual switches, so that I can maybe match it up to one of the models that has hazard switch on the right side here in the states. I was full ready to do my best to help you out on this endeavor as unlike many people I actually enjoy the electrical system part of projects.

I had asked the year you had gotten the harness and switches from because I remembered in another post that you were sourcing parts from an LS650 bike to put on your LS400 so I knew this was going to be a non-standard wiring project. I do hope the banter didn't scare you off for good and you do come back as I was enjoying watching your build progress and was hoping to help where I could on your wiring issues.

R.F.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by WD on 10/05/12 at 16:46:19

Paul, most USA market highway motorcycle models made after the mid-1970s don't have a headlight off switch. Our light controls are on the left side switch, strictly high-low settings. If we want an off position we need to relocate the wires to a 3 pole toggle switch with on-off-on settings. Like mine has, just haven't decided if they are going to be in bucket (aftermarket metal 7" headlight) or somewhere else. My 1963 Honda can be legally operated during daylight hours w/o the headlight, my 1998 Savage can not.

Your best bet is to chase the wiring with a test light, most of the board has USA spec bikes.

I hope he comes back. We need members from other parts of the world, not just state side. I enjoy seeing the model differences from the various markets.

Title: Re: Right Handle Switch Wiring
Post by J C Stokes on 10/05/12 at 18:04:01

Just by way of information, permanent headlights on, on motorcycles didn't become law in New Zealand until the middle of the last decade and there is an exemption for pre 1981 bikes. I'm very un techo but his surplus wires wouldn't have anything to do with the clutch sidestand switch business?