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Message started by paulmarshall on 10/02/12 at 19:58:19

Title: Clutch Switch
Post by paulmarshall on 10/02/12 at 19:58:19

The clutch lever on my LS400 does not have a clutch switch. Does anyone know if I connect the two yellow clutch wires together would this bridge the problem and allow me to start the engine?

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by verslagen1 on 10/02/12 at 20:01:40

If these 2 wires are going to a switch that's no longer there... probably.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by paulmarshall on 10/02/12 at 20:05:57

I have the 650 wiring loom but differs in places compared to the 400. These two yellow wires do go to the clutch switch, so logic tells me to push them together. Because thats what a switch would do is that right?

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by Digger on 10/02/12 at 21:23:06

I'm thinkin' yeah.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by wambr on 10/02/12 at 21:34:57


judging by the electric schemes, if we combine these two yellow wire, then the clutch lever is turned off. everything correctly.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by Cavi Mike on 10/02/12 at 22:30:35

If it starts with them disconnected, no. If it won't start unless you touch them, yes. There are only two options here, that's all a switch does. There's not some third option where something is going to blow up in Australia. Just put them in a way your bike will start.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/02/12 at 23:03:38

There's not some third option where something is going to blow up in Australia.



Whaaat? No special section of Random Terrorist Strike switches? Those switches in the little black bag with the ??? marks on them in the back of the drawer at Radio Shack dont have special abilities to blow things up in another hemisphere? Dangittt! Im not payin $45.00 for another one of them then,,

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by LouSiana on 10/03/12 at 04:43:51


4E5D4A4B54595F5D5609380 wrote:
If these 2 wires are going to a switch that's no longer there... probably.


Not only probably... It works! Put them together at the harness side and you've done it.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by Charon on 10/03/12 at 07:34:35

Of course, you could take the safer way. You could buy and install the clutch safety switch.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by WD on 10/03/12 at 07:54:05

Just hook them together and be done with it. The switch is just a cheap little fail prone piece of nanny-state nonsense that you don't need. You should do the same with the side stand switch while you are at it.

Those switches are only there to force lazy Americans to do what they should as a matter of course anyway... check to make sure the bike is in neutral before it is started. You can't trust the neutral light by the way, it will light up in false neutral.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by LouSiana on 10/03/12 at 10:03:32


3625610 wrote:
...You can't trust the neutral light by the way, it will light up in false neutral.


Nonsense!
If it lights up being NOT in the regular neutral position, say at any position else than true neutral, there is something darn wrong in your personal wiring harness.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by paulmarshall on 10/03/12 at 10:23:16

[Of course, you could take the safer way. You could buy and install the clutch safety switch]

Its not just a matter of buying a switch, I would have to buy a clutch lever and mount too. The LS400 clutch lever is completely different from the LS600. I will just connect them and save money thanks.

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by wambr on 10/03/12 at 12:24:44

fully fit. I know exactly...

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by Charon on 10/03/12 at 13:18:18


7764200 wrote:
Just hook them together and be done with it. The switch is just a cheap little fail prone piece of nanny-state nonsense that you don't need. You should do the same with the side stand switch while you are at it.

Those switches are only there to force lazy Americans to do what they should as a matter of course anyway... check to make sure the bike is in neutral before it is started. You can't trust the neutral light by the way, it will light up in false neutral.


Let him who has never made a mistake curse safety switches. For the rest of us, they sometimes prevent "incidents."

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by CalisOsin on 10/03/12 at 13:47:43


6C7F3B0 wrote:
Just hook them together and be done with it. The switch is just a cheap little fail prone piece of nanny-state nonsense that you don't need. You should do the same with the side stand switch while you are at it.

Those switches are only there to force lazy Americans to do what they should as a matter of course anyway... check to make sure the bike is in neutral before it is started. You can't trust the neutral light by the way, it will light up in false neutral.


I eliminated all my safety switches and even the on off switch. I've got a key and a start button now. I'm ALWAYS careful to park it in neutral!

Title: Re: Clutch Switch
Post by WD on 10/04/12 at 03:41:24

Charon, I've made the same mistakes everyone else does. That's why I trust myself to delete the switches.

LouSiana, not every Savage works perfectly. Many of them will catch a false neutral either going into 1st or coming out of 1st gear into 2nd. There have been a few on this and the old forum over the years that would hang up between 2nd and 3rd and turn the neutral light on.

My Savage is out in the barn to rot until I get around to finishing the repaint and rewire. Safety switch deletes worked flawlessly from 1998-2011. No neutral light since sometime in 2005. Pulled the handlebar switches last year in favor of toggles and a relocated start button. Ran out of interest to finish it.

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