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Title: Recommended Tires Post by DrunkenDwarf on 09/16/12 at 22:00:17 I've got a flat rear stock IRC tire, with a little tread depth remaining. I'm probably going to put new tires on and did a little digging on this forum. Here's what I came up with as popular options. (darkside isn't an option, I'm too chicken)
MS - http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ BB - http://www.bikebandit.com/ RM - http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/ RZ - http://www.revzilla.com/ Prices don't include shipping, taxes, or other fees. Other items to buy: rim strip, tube with 90 degree valve stem Is that a reasonable summary? Anything I missed? -D. Dwarf |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Oldfeller on 09/16/12 at 22:44:12 The ME 880 H series tires are the ones to beat for high mileage durability. (don't forget to log your tire into the mileage spreadsheet in DropBox) |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Wolfman on 09/16/12 at 22:59:11 Don't overlook Duro tires. Last i got was about 85 bucks. Wear good and good wet weather traction. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/17/12 at 01:47:55 I doubt seriously you need the inner strip since youre on the original tire, Make sure the valve stem gets pointed the right way. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by clearush on 09/18/12 at 14:33:32 http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/ is another good online store to price match with and they give free 3-day shipping over $99 or flat $7 shipping for anything under that. I just picked up a shinko 712 for $59 that I am testing out for the milage test and thier metzler and dunlop prices are competitive. I'm guessing your having a shop mount the tire for you, otherwise you need think about balancing the tire. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by ralfyguy on 09/19/12 at 04:32:13 There's also the Dunlop K555, that's the one I run. Not a bad tire, lasts at least double as long as the stock IRC. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by DrunkenDwarf on 09/19/12 at 15:11:49 Updated original post with additional tire options and prices. Is it a good idea to replace my front tire too? I'll pull the tires, but then I'll either have a shop mount/balance or I'll have a co-worker do it. -D. Dwarf |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by clearush on 09/19/12 at 17:56:51 Ahh I see I got the last shinko 712 from RockyMountainATV ..... but they should be back in stock Friday. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by jimbo2 on 09/19/12 at 19:30:50 i would go with the Pirelli or Metzeler, have had both and liked them. I also had the Dunlop 555 and 404 on my VTX, I didn't realize how bad they were till I swapped them. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Steampowered Boy on 09/19/12 at 20:03:42 What about the Michelin Commander II? |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by DrunkenDwarf on 09/19/12 at 23:12:46 6740515559445B4351465150765B4D340 wrote:
Captured. -D. Dwarf |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by DrunkenDwarf on 09/19/12 at 23:15:58 Is "TR-87 90 degree stem" the right one? -D. Dwarf |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by mpescatori on 09/20/12 at 03:11:33 3D343138223531500 wrote:
May I also suggest the Pirelli Phantom http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/gearbox/gear/24509173++w569+h356+ar1/122_0908_05_z+pirelli_phantom_tires+side_view.jpg I find it an excellent all-weather tire, and in the rain it will provide better traction than some "semi-slicks" available, even if it may cost a tad more. My previous tires were Avon Venoms; literally zero treadwear, wonderful in the dry, and deadly in the wet... :-X http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8351/avonvenomsmz7.jpg |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by DrunkenDwarf on 09/20/12 at 23:35:28 475A4F59494B5E4558432A0 wrote:
I can't seem to find those to fit a 15 inch rim. 475A4F59494B5E4558432A0 wrote:
Considering I live in Seattle...probably not the best choice. -D. Dwarf |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by DrunkenDwarf on 10/29/12 at 23:31:51 Oldfeller, I updated the spreadsheet. I didn't include the cost of a new front wheel. :-[ I did include the tube, rim strip, and shipping. It was self mounted, so I didn't include the cost of that. Tread depth measured at 7.0mm (0.275") average with a deepest measurement of 7.5mm (0.295"). -D. Dwarf OF We always measure at the same spot (next to the valve stem) as variation around the tire is so much it makes accurate mileage predictions impossible. If you use the butt drop method with a caliper AT THE SAME SPOT you can get +/- a couple of thousandths accurate on tread depth measurements which is good enough for predictions to work OK. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Paladin. on 10/30/12 at 04:18:26 Dennis Kirk: Order Number: o64050810 Order Date: June 21, 2008 Inner Tube w/Chrome Stem Part #54143 $10.99 Rim Strip K41550710 Part #535198 $1.70 Rear ME 880 140/80HB-15 Blackwall Tire Part #540233 $134.99 Inner Tube Part #535379 $11.99 Rim Strip K41550110 Part #535195 $1.70 Front ME 880 100/90H-19 Blackwall Tire Part #540229 $108.99 Merchandise Total: $230.96 Shipping Charge: $10.00 Order Total: $240.96 http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/002609.html New Tires. Just for the record, 'cause in a year or so I'll be wondering when I got them ...24,440 miles on the odometer.... I will photo of the tires in the morning with the current mileage..... OF Paladin, Please can you actually MEASURE the tread depth on your ME880 right next to the valve stem and tell us the measuring technique you figured out to do this ?? ME880 blows my mind a bit as the grooves don't cross the center line and they taper out some at the ends so I can see some potential issues with measuring the durn things accurately over the life of the tire. Nobody has actually MEASURED a new ME880 yet, so far we have just had to use the claimed 8mm tread depth with no idea if it is real or not. 35,270 miles on the odometer -- 10,870 miles on the tires. Measured with a ruler, end of a groove nearest to the center of the tire, within a quarter of a millimeter: http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/Dscf1672.jpg http://www.savageriders.com/paladin/images/Dscf1674.jpg18" ruler, 47.3ish mm on the end Good mileaage for a motorcycle tire. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Oldfeller on 10/30/12 at 09:24:26 Spreadsheet has been updated with my new mileage and Paladin's data -- notice I have slipped from the top of the heap overall mileage wise. It is what it is .... you guys need to put in your interim mileage and tread depths to let the spreadsheet predict your total mileage and cost per mile. (after a few hundred miles the prediction is surprisingly accurate IF you measure your tread depth at the exact same spot using a caliper) Click on the file name directly below to see the image full size. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Oldfeller on 10/30/12 at 09:51:27 While Paladin is figuring out how to measure tread depth on his ME880 I thought I would post the .... How to get into the spreadsheet to register your tire or to punch in your new mileage and new depth of thread ..... Go to Dropbox.com https://www.dropbox.com/ Click on sign in: in the top right corner. We have a shared generic Drop Box account called: suzukisavage@mail.com with password: s40boulevard Now you click on the Public Folder when Drop Box opens up. This will open the folder with all the shared stuff in it. You are looking for the Low Cost Mileage Contest.xls ;) Don't forget to save the spreadsheet once you are finished punching in your stuff. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by rl153 on 10/30/12 at 18:17:01 If you were running the stock tires ,and switched to Metzlers or any of the tires mentioned ,would you have to adjust your shocks?Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Borracho on 10/30/12 at 19:27:11 Mileage aside, What are the best handling tires? My Savage needs tires soon, currently has Dunlop 404's. They seem like really hard rubber. I am ok with buying new tires every year or two... |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Oldfeller on 10/30/12 at 19:57:01 5D5447585F5400030808310 wrote:
That depends on how much you weigh, how big your bumps are and what your settings are at now. I run mine up all the way to maximum pre-load, but that is me with a big tire, big bumps and a big butt. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Oldfeller on 10/30/12 at 19:59:23 464F4C5E531A1A1D2A0 wrote:
The only tires that have a LONG history of good mileage and good user reviews are the Metzler ME880-H series tires (the ones that hold the mileage lead of all the bike tires on the spreadsheet up above). Be aware, until we get more data on the other tires we can't say they are the best value though, as they are pretty durn pricey and that plays against their cost per mile. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Cavi Mike on 10/31/12 at 00:11:19 3C35362429606067500 wrote:
That's a pretty good question. I think I took it too much for granted my tire selection when I was on a sport bike. I always ran race take-offs. I'm not really sure what I'm gonna do now. Guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there... |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Paladin. on 10/31/12 at 04:49:42 2F2625373A737374430 wrote:
Good question. On my blog I told myself that "... the tire pressures up are Metezler's recomendations, near max, and the bike is noticably more nimble." I remember thinking the tires were twitchy, until I realized it was more responsive. Difference may have been the pressure or that the old tire had been slightly flattened. Over the years on the Metezlers, I had never lost traction, 'cept maybe for a second in curve on wet over a manhole. I don't push it in the curves since I don't like the feel of the grinding on the pegs. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by rl153 on 11/01/12 at 18:49:36 Let me clarify my question, I'm running the original tires at the original shock height. The setting is fine for bumps and my weight. If I change to Metzlers or Michelins,are the tires the same size? Or will I have to adjust the shocks?Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Oldfeller on 11/01/12 at 22:46:37 Possibly not, it depends on how much bigger the new tire is. If it doesn't rub going over your local bumps, you are good. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by 12Bravo on 11/02/12 at 06:13:38 2B22312E292276757E7E470 wrote:
I went to a Metzler 140/90 and didn't have to make any adjustments to the shocks or change out bolts on the fender bolts( with stock bag supports). Some people have had to change the fender bolts and others haven't. My weight probably has a lot to do with me not having to change them out or change shock settings. I'm only 150lbs. |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by Boofer on 11/03/12 at 06:32:59 3536467665726B040 wrote:
I went to a Metzler 140/90 and didn't have to make any adjustments to the shocks or change out bolts on the fender bolts( with stock bag supports). Some people have had to change the fender bolts and others haven't. My weight probably has a lot to do with me not having to change them out or change shock settings. I'm only 150lbs.[/quote] rl153, what size are you going to? I have Metz 145/80-15H stock size on rear with the 19 on the front It seems like they hold a little better than the Dunlop K555, but they were higher. Don't worry about adjusting stuff unless you try it out like it is. I've been riding for two years with slop in the countershaft sprocket when I speed up or let off. Now it's vibrating, so I guess I better stop it before it wiggles the oil seal loose. Oh, I usually ride 3500+ miles a year. Been down in my back for two months so got to catch up. I would say Metzeler is best for aggressive riding, but Dunlop makes a good tire in the K555 and the Pirelli is another sure bet. Ride and learn. :) |
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Title: Re: Recommended Tires Post by rl153 on 11/03/12 at 12:51:04 I'm not sure which size to get. I was hoping to change to something that wouldn't take much adjustment.Probably got another year on my present tires. |
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